Elvish Armor

Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:10 pm

It doesn't look like anything from Vvardenfell so I'm assuming it's not Dunmer. It cant be Bosmer cause they're just dumb, and they svck and couldn't make anything that looks that cool, and I guess that leaves Altmer but I don't know they're more into magic so; where is it from?
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Jordyn Youngman
 
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Post » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:46 am

Obviously from Rivendell. :dance:
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:27 pm

Probably the Ayleids, though that would make the armour several thousand years old.
The Bosmer make cool bone armour, but i think they'd damage too much nature by digging up ore for more orthadox armour
Could be the Altmer, not that they are particularly inclined to activities that require wearing armour
Falmer are (presumably) extinct, plus the Snow Prince armour doesn't resemble OB's Elven Armour
Dwemer, in addition to being extinct, already have a style of armour
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:30 pm

Obviously from Rivendell. :dance:

It does look sort of Middle Earthish to me
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:04 pm

maybe bethseda did :hubbahubba:

nah, if a race of elves did make it, id say altmer but they would have made it more for a ceremonial purpose
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Post » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:23 am

Hmm... You might actually get a lot of good answers in the Lore forum.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:19 pm

It doesn't look like anything from Vvardenfell so I'm assuming it's not Dunmer. It cant be Bosmer cause they're just dumb, and they svck and couldn't make anything that looks that cool, and I guess that leaves Altmer but I don't know they're more into magic so; where is it from?

i bet bosmer pwn you all the time dont they?
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:53 pm

i bet bosmer pwn you all the time dont they?

I :gun: bosmer
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:12 pm

I always thought they were from the Ayleids but now that you mention it, I suppose it could be Altmer...there's nothing in-game that references where that armor comes from? Hmmm...
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:12 pm

Probably the Ayleids, though that would make the armour several thousand years old.


I'm unsure about that. I read a in-game book about an old king of Skingrad that won a battle against the Allessians and in the book it mentioned his armor was the best in Tamriel because Skingrad had the best leather-makers and leather was the only armor available at that time. And that time was after the fall of the Ayelids.

Could be the Altmer, not that they are particularly inclined to activities that require wearing armour


I don't get why so many people have this idea that almost all Altmer are mages. Sure, they have a great talent for magic and mages might be much more common among them than among most other races, but just because 90% of the people who play Altmer are mages doesn't mean that 90% of the Altmer in Tamriel are mages. For eample, the first Altmer I ever ran across in a TES game was a commoner who couldn't cast any spell at all and Morrowind's master trainer for heavy armor was an Altmer who worked in the Vivec City Arena.

The Altmer still have plenty of use for armor. Their armies might have more mages than normal, but they still have archers and infantry as well and those guys do need protection.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:48 pm

I'm unsure about that. I read a in-game book about an old king of Skingrad that won a battle against the Allessians and in the book it mentioned his armor was the best in Tamriel because Skingrad had the best leather-makers and leather was the only armor available at that time. And that time was after the fall of the Ayelids.
I don't get why so many people have this idea that almost all Altmer are mages. Sure, they have a great talent for magic and mages might be much more common among them than among most other races, but just because 90% of the people who play Altmer are mages doesn't mean that 90% of the Altmer in Tamriel are mages. For eample, the first Altmer I ever ran across in a TES game was a commoner who couldn't cast any spell at all and Morrowind's master trainer for heavy armor was an Altmer who worked in the Vivec City Arena.

The Altmer still have plenty of use for armor. Their armies might have more mages than normal, but they still have archers and infantry as well and those guys do need protection.


There was also an Altmer Fighters' Guild member in an early FG quest in Oblivion.
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Post » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:11 am

I'm unsure about that. I read a in-game book about an old king of Skingrad that won a battle against the Allessians and in the book it mentioned his armor was the best in Tamriel because Skingrad had the best leather-makers and leather was the only armor available at that time. And that time was after the fall of the Ayelids.

Huh? Not sure what point you are trying to make, but if it happened after the fall of the Ayelids, then it happened after Pelenal and his [censored]in armour, so i'm sure they had access to more than just leather armour. Also, why would Skingrad fight the Allessians?

I don't get why so many people have this idea that almost all Altmer are mages. Sure, they have a great talent for magic and mages might be much more common among them than among most other races, but just because 90% of the people who play Altmer are mages doesn't mean that 90% of the Altmer in Tamriel are mages. For eample, the first Altmer I ever ran across in a TES game was a commoner who couldn't cast any spell at all and Morrowind's master trainer for heavy armor was an Altmer who worked in the Vivec City Arena.

The Altmer still have plenty of use for armor. Their armies might have more mages than normal, but they still have archers and infantry as well and those guys do need protection.

Aside from the typical Altmer frailty and considerably lower STR than most other races, they also typically seem too snobby to be foot soldiers, though it is clear that not all Altmer stuck up (or else the whole civilization would fall from lack of laborers).
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:13 pm

Huh? Not sure what point you are trying to make, but if it happened after the fall of the Ayelids, then it happened after Pelenal and his [censored]in armour, so i'm sure they had access to more than just leather armour.


I haven't heard anyone capable of mimicking Pelinal's armor, considering that it wasn't crafted my any mortal smith.

Also, why would Skingrad fight the Allessians?


Because King Donald of Kvatch's first edict was to cede his kingdom to the Empire, a shocking act to the rest of the normally independent Colovian Estates. When Emperor Gorieus heard King Rislav of Skingrad executed Donald, he viewed this act as treasonous and saw the Colovian Estates as rebellious.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:52 pm

I haven't heard anyone capable of mimicking Pelinal's armor, considering that it wasn't crafted my any mortal smith.
Because King Donald of Kvatch's first edict was to cede his kingdom to the Empire, a shocking act to the rest of the normally independent Colovian Estates. When Emperor Gorieus heard King Rislav of Skingrad executed Donald, he viewed this act as treasonous and saw the Colovian Estates as rebellious.

Link the book please?
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:39 pm

Link the book please?


http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/rislav_righteous.shtml
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:52 pm

I'm pretty sure it's Ayleid. Why ? During the Great Heist, the last quest for the Thieve's Guild in OB, one part in an Ayleid ruin pits you against two ancient statue guardians, wearing armor looking just like Elven Armor, just far more worn and battered by time. In any case, that's what I think, but IU'm pretty sure it's Ayleid stuff.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:41 pm

http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/rislav_righteous.shtml

Hmm, thanks for the read. Hadn't read that book, and i admit my knowledge on early post Ayelid politics was a bit scarce.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:43 pm

I'm pretty sure it's Ayleid stuff. U moved to here :P

Or a replica
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:08 pm

My thinking it was either Ayleid or Altmer, perhaps both (this would include the Direnni of High Rock). Regardless, I'm certain it wasn't designed by Bosmer or Falmer. :)
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:30 pm

Aside from the typical Altmer frailty and considerably lower STR than most other races, they also typically seem too snobby to be foot soldiers, though it is clear that not all Altmer stuck up (or else the whole civilization would fall from lack of laborers).


Be very careful about applying stereotypes like that to entire races. There are brutish and violent Altmer just as there are erudite and scholarly Nords. It's perfectly logical to assume that the Altmer would produce armour and weapons, due to their obvious utility on the battlefield.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:46 pm

Leather was the best armor available at the time, to non elven peoples, that is.

The elven armor is Ayleid in origin, but that's due to geography. It, technically, is high elven, since the ayleids are the heartland high elves. Want proof that the armor is Ayleid/Altmeri in origin? Look at it for christ's sake. The armor itself is avian in appearance, and therefore is meant to mimic/represent Auriel (whom is said to have ascended as a bird). The bird is a totem creature of great importance to early elves. Similarly, the Ayleids had this same bird-fetish. The statues outside of ayleid ruins have many birds or bird-like creatures, and if you recall from lore class 101, the book 2920 makes reference to an Ayleid actually transforming into a bird.

That being said, imagine what an army of golden-skinned peoples dressed in this same golden armor would look like on the battlefield. It would appear that you are being attacked by an army of Auriels, or in other words the ada had come for you. There is power in symbolism, even if it's merely for psychological emphasis on the might and divinity of the elven race.
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Post » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:27 am

My thought is that it is Ayleid. The helm resembles both the Ancient helm found in a Ayleid ruin during a MG quest as well as the fact it resembles the two Ayleid Crowns in the last Collector quests.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:09 pm

I'm pretty sure it's Ayleid. Why ? During the Great Heist, the last quest for the Thieve's Guild in OB, one part in an Ayleid ruin pits you against two ancient statue guardians, wearing armor looking just like Elven Armor, just far more worn and battered by time. In any case, that's what I think, but IU'm pretty sure it's Ayleid stuff.


For that reason, I would assume that it is indeed Ayleid in origin, as well as the fact that it seems to share some aesthetic resemblances to some of the Ayleid statues, in terms of having a similar theme of birds. Although the statue thing could have been explained simply by Bethesda not wanting to create different models for them, I would, nonetheless, not expect Bethesda to use that particular model unless they meant to imply that the statues and question and the armor they resemble have similar origins.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:04 pm

I made the elven armor.
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Post » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:25 pm

For that reason, I would assume that it is indeed Ayleid in origin, as well as the fact that it seems to share some aesthetic resemblances to some of the Ayleid statues, in terms of having a similar theme of birds. Although the statue thing could have been explained simply by Bethesda not wanting to create different models for them, I would, nonetheless, not expect Bethesda to use that particular model unless they meant to imply that the statues and question and the armor they resemble have similar origins.


Like I said...

Birds have a huge significance in early elven cultures, particularly the Ayleids. They loved birds, feathers, and things with wings. It has a lot to do with the depiction of Auri-El used in myths.
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