Emos, what is it EXACTLY ?

Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:31 am

Emo = emotional
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 3:47 pm

Emo = emotional


You know i hate how the word emotional has been hijacked here. If someone has no emotion they are a [censored] psychopath. I get angry and upset sometimes about stuff that isn't really that important - doesn't mean im wearing drainpipes, spiked collars and (god forbid) listening to Silverstein or Panic! or anything equally as [censored]. Its a word hijacked by a group of people which they rally around to make them feel different when they are exactly the same. If she's just listening to the music and dressing like they do, well who really gives a crap. Things change, people change, if i were you i would just encourage her to have some individuality. Its not something you brought about anyway.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:31 pm

Generally, from those who claim to be "emo" you get a more reactivate whine bag of a person. Who cries or whines about everything, rebels and makes a mockery of them selfs.

But that's [censored]. All teenagers whine, and despite all the jokes, in reality no particular subculture is any worse at it...

It's like the old stereotype about goths being depressed. I've met depressed goths, I've met happy goths, in fact some of the happiest people I've met have been goths. You can't just say that because someone conforms to a particular fashion and subculture that they'll act a certain way - and to be honest I don't think it's much different than saying that people of a certain skin colour are going to act a certain way...


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You know i hate how the word emotional has been hijacked here. If someone has no emotion they are a [censored] psychopath. I get angry and upset sometimes about stuff that isn't really that important - doesn't mean im wearing drainpipes, spiked collars and (god forbid) listening to Silverstein or Panic! or anything equally as [censored]. Its a word hijacked by a group of people which they rally around to make them feel different when they are exactly the same. If she's just listening to the music and dressing like they do, well who really gives a crap. Things change, people change, if i were you i would just encourage her to have some individuality. Its not something you brought about anyway.

Actually the "emotional" in emo refers to the fact that the genre of music was "emotional hardcoe". That is; hardcoe music with lyrics about emotions (as opposed to lyrics about hitting people or getting drunk or smashing capitalism, like most hardcoe before then). So the word has been appropriately used in that case. And then the subculture grew up around a particular part of the music scene, and the name stuck. There's no direct connection though.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:35 am

But that's [censored]. All teenagers whine, and despite all the jokes, in reality no particular subculture is any worse at it...

It's like the old stereotype about goths being depressed. I've met depressed goths, I've met happy goths, in fact some of the happiest people I've met have been goths. You can't just say that because someone conforms to a particular fashion and subculture that they'll act a certain way - and to be honest I don't think it's much different than saying that people of a certain skin colour are going to act a certain way...



Hey, everyone is different, and no one deals with kids exactly the same way.

I know if I ever get to that point I will squelch such things, because its silly. My parents stopped my from doing that silly stuff when I was younger, and I am SO thankful they did.

I have spoke my peace and opinion, I am sorry if some don't like it, but its what I would do. Parents need to be parents, and family's need to be family's. Too many of my high school class is dead from drugs, in jail or on drugs because they have friends and not parents.

I see too many young girls out in town on weekends running around with out advlt supervision, and these girls are 13-14-15 and with guys in my age group. I wish I had a dollar for every time I seen a child get dropped off at the moves only to sneak away to the local hot spot for teens to make out and what ever else they do until they call there "parents" on a cell and have them come get them.

I know this because I have had friends who partake in such things, and I have had the opportunity to do so., I can't they are still a child to me and it would be wrong.

Maybe things in your area are not the same, but here. Well, I know what my children (if i have any) will NOT be doing.
There is also a fine line between too strict and not strict enough, and I see what comes of both extremes.

But I am done here, I have spoke my mind. Like my ideas or not. In the end its your child and your choice.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:13 pm

Well, okay, most of those things you describe are pretty bad, but they have nothing to do with what subculture your child chooses to associate with. To be honest, you sound like Tipper Gore or one of those weird-ass infomercials from the mid-eighties warning about how if your child is into D&D then they're probably into drugs and Satan worship too. Dressing up in black with a stupid haircut and dying of a drug overdose aren't even on the same scale, and it's panic tactics like that which make people into bad parents who stifle their own children.

Kids who don't get a proper opportunity to rebel against their parents grow up into boring and slightly unstable people anyway :shrug:
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:38 pm

Well, okay, most of those things you describe are pretty bad, but they have nothing to do with what subculture your child chooses to associate with. To be honest, you sound like Tipper Gore or one of those weird-ass infomercials from the mid-eighties warning about how if your child is into D&D then they're probably into drugs and Satan worship too. Dressing up in black with a stupid haircut and dying of a drug overdose aren't even on the same scale, and it's panic tactics like that which make people into bad parents who stifle their own children.

Kids who don't get a proper opportunity to rebel against their parents grow up into boring and slightly unstable people anyway :shrug:



Take a trip to KY, every thing svcks here.

I guess I am boring and slightly unstable.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:05 am

Emo is sort of similar to punk rock. It shares common roots. It was originally a political statement meant to scare off neo nazis from the punk scene but nowadays it seems to mostly be a fashion thing and less political than before. I have a couple of Emo friends and most of the rumors and stereotypes about them aren't true. They're just young people trying to find a self identity in the world like everybody else. Theirs just happens to be a little different. They're usually pretty good kids.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:28 pm

Emo's are a waste of good oxygen to be fair. I would refuse to buy your daughter 'emo-ish' clothes, dont let her die her hair black, red w/e. And talk some sense into her.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:41 am

Well, okay, most of those things you describe are pretty bad, but they have nothing to do with what subculture your child chooses to associate with. To be honest, you sound like Tipper Gore or one of those weird-ass infomercials from the mid-eighties warning about how if your child is into D&D then they're probably into drugs and Satan worship too. Dressing up in black with a stupid haircut and dying of a drug overdose aren't even on the same scale, and it's panic tactics like that which make people into bad parents who stifle their own children.

Kids who don't get a proper opportunity to rebel against their parents grow up into boring and slightly unstable people anyway :shrug:

I wonder what happened to those Menendez brothers...
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 6:36 pm

To expand on my previous statements - while I personally never dressed emo, punk or goth I always appreciated some of the cultural ideas being kicked around in those scenes. I deeply appreciate any person who doesn't automatically accept every mainstream value and who dares to think for themselves and try to find their own way. I think you'll find if you really pay close attention to kids like Emo kids they're usually quite intelligent and more aware of important social issues than other kids their age might be. That's what I admire and respect about them. If you're too strict on your kids about what they can wear or what music they can listen to you may be stifling their continued mental and spiritual growth as people.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:51 pm

Oh it's you again and you shouldn't worry there is people who dress "emo" and people who are "emo". Is she starts listing to heavy metal and Screamo just get her some Pink Floyd lighten her up.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:55 am

Emo? That is so 2006. Well despite that it was a pretty dumb subculture, you should at least congratulate your daughter on not following contemporary styles and being a few years behind instead. I'd take emo over hipster anyday. And the jury is still out on if I prefer either to the dry toast kids who worship the bad top 40 stuff and believe Jack Johnson, Jason Mraz, and John Mayer are their favorite.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:43 am

Hey, everyone is different, and no one deals with kids exactly the same way.

I know if I ever get to that point I will squelch such things, because its silly. My parents stopped my from doing that silly stuff when I was younger, and I am SO thankful they did.

I have spoke my peace and opinion, I am sorry if some don't like it, but its what I would do. Parents need to be parents, and family's need to be family's. Too many of my high school class is dead from drugs, in jail or on drugs because they have friends and not parents.

I see too many young girls out in town on weekends running around with out advlt supervision, and these girls are 13-14-15 and with guys in my age group. I wish I had a dollar for every time I seen a child get dropped off at the moves only to sneak away to the local hot spot for teens to make out and what ever else they do until they call there "parents" on a cell and have them come get them.

I know this because I have had friends who partake in such things, and I have had the opportunity to do so., I can't they are still a child to me and it would be wrong.

Maybe things in your area are not the same, but here. Well, I know what my children (if i have any) will NOT be doing.
There is also a fine line between too strict and not strict enough, and I see what comes of both extremes.

But I am done here, I have spoke my mind. Like my ideas or not. In the end its your child and your choice.


But what you're saying here has nothing to do with emo kids. They don't whine any more than the next teenager. Emo is just a fashion style now.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:49 am

Someone should supply pictures, I'd also like to know whats Emo and whats Goth.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:29 am

Someone should supply pictures, I'd also like to know whats Emo and whats Goth.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://scraqetv.com/News/News%2520Pages/Health/images-2/Emo-Kids.jpg&imgrefurl=http://scraqetv.com/News/News%2520Pages/Health/pages-2/Research-indicates-that-emo-kids-may-be-suffering-from-sun-allergy-Scraqe-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html&usg=__FYq6Ik_aQV5x7vwc2oNkUkyKBc4=&h=300&w=400&sz=64&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=08yCREQ6w-PXUM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=195&prev=/images%3Fq%3Demo%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D682%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=136&vpy=294&dur=1506&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=62&ty=220&ei=D3BtTJqeGY6pnQe3trHJCA&oei=4W9tTI-MMZCbnwfo8IHiBw&esq=7&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0/http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn309/Megan_Murderscene/scene-21.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.lemonkka7.estranky.sk/clanky/scene/mooc-vela-scene-people___girlss&usg=__cqGo4GGoYwDgW9gLxr8KUshacf4=&h=663&w=500&sz=53&hl=en&start=47&zoom=1&tbnid=9KaWRSc22oueXM:&tbnh=161&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dscene%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D682%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C1140&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=134&vpy=88&dur=5510&hovh=259&hovw=195&tx=64&ty=288&ei=TXBtTNDqFIqrnQe9s6y2CA&oei=829tTL7gD5-znAf62ejaBw&esq=6&page=3&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:47&biw=1440&bih=682 vs http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://s.bebo.com/app-image/6178307413/6086838986/PROFILE/quizfarm.com//images/11485535751098112661_areyouGoth%255B1%255D.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp%3FMemberId%3D3955685726&usg=__wNxen9pvVDg_l_dH8xwGsxiO6Po=&h=324&w=300&sz=25&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=On3hXkijEXqD-M:&tbnh=167&tbnw=158&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgoth%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D682%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=376&vpy=111&dur=1313&hovh=233&hovw=216&tx=143&ty=254&ei=529tTOzhHtWhnQee7LzUBw&oei=529tTOzhHtWhnQee7LzUBw&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0/http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_04/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-509713/Im-human-pet-The-Goth-teenager-fiance-walks-dog-lead.html&usg=__W1STvqbs_WmNpRjBxGWVM-uLUJQ=&h=665&w=468&sz=61&hl=en&start=21&zoom=1&tbnid=UeMJZolwU2WDkM:&tbnh=155&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgoth%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D682%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C570&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1024&vpy=83&dur=4494&hovh=268&hovw=188&tx=116&ty=285&ei=oXBtTJ3NONTonQeq47G8CA&oei=529tTOzhHtWhnQee7LzUBw&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:21&biw=1440&bih=682

As for the OP, your kid being emo isn't much to worry about. She'll just dress up/do her hair differently. Obviously, there are negative self harm connotations, but if she's in a caring, loving, environment, it should be a non issue. She'll grow out of it.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:13 am


I see too many young girls out in town on weekends running around with out advlt supervision, and these girls are 13-14-15 and with guys in my age group. I wish I had a dollar for every time I seen a child get dropped off at the moves only to sneak away to the local hot spot for teens to make out and what ever else they do until they call there "parents" on a cell and have them come get them.


Chavs arent emo, and they do that to.

Emo's are a waste of good oxygen to be fair. I would refuse to buy your daughter 'emo-ish' clothes, dont let her die her hair black, red w/e. And talk some sense into her.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSv1kwOa6ZH9Cf3SBwTjijMIVaSAb_K6ETr-3hLEIt_LkFBHYY&t=1&usg=__hQKS7BLWWZQDjHRyChulI-gNDgE=
Thier music is crap though. I knew an emo girl, she was alright, smart, not the steryotype "woe is me" a bit, strange though that may be because she still liked sponge bob at 17, then again I always hated that show.
Someone should supply pictures, I'd also like to know whats Emo and whats Goth.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZA9nyBDtBLVISyWcdn3o_s1dSBS4AohlaD-OLuYltV6-A3X8&t=1&usg=__yLMCPPwEzr90r2WP3hVtIm4peuM=
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I think goths are just more extreme with make up.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:17 am

EDIT:
Actually the "emotional" in emo refers to the fact that the genre of music was "emotional hardcoe". That is; hardcoe music with lyrics about emotions (as opposed to lyrics about hitting people or getting drunk or smashing capitalism, like most hardcoe before then). So the word has been appropriately used in that case. And then the subculture grew up around a particular part of the music scene, and the name stuck. There's no direct connection though.


Oh right, fair enough. I still find that the word "emotional", at least in musical terms, has been hijacked (probably more so by ignorant idiots than people actually in the scene). I mean, my sister called Radiohead emo, as though it was some kind of derogatory slang. If music doesn't give you emotions, what's the point really. Its just noise then.

Emo's are a waste of good oxygen to be fair. I would refuse to buy your daughter 'emo-ish' clothes, dont let her die her hair black, red w/e. And talk some sense into her.


Yeah, control every area of her life and stop her from making her own decisions. She'll grow up great.
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http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://scraqetv.com/News/News%2520Pages/Health/images-2/Emo-Kids.jpg&imgrefurl=http://scraqetv.com/News/News%2520Pages/Health/pages-2/Research-indicates-that-emo-kids-may-be-suffering-from-sun-allergy-Scraqe-TV-The-World-on-your-side.html&usg=__FYq6Ik_aQV5x7vwc2oNkUkyKBc4=&h=300&w=400&sz=64&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=08yCREQ6w-PXUM:&tbnh=141&tbnw=195&prev=/images%3Fq%3Demo%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D682%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=136&vpy=294&dur=1506&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=62&ty=220&ei=D3BtTJqeGY6pnQe3trHJCA&oei=4W9tTI-MMZCbnwfo8IHiBw&esq=7&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0/http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn309/Megan_Murderscene/scene-21.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.lemonkka7.estranky.sk/clanky/scene/mooc-vela-scene-people___girlss&usg=__cqGo4GGoYwDgW9gLxr8KUshacf4=&h=663&w=500&sz=53&hl=en&start=47&zoom=1&tbnid=9KaWRSc22oueXM:&tbnh=161&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dscene%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D682%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C1140&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=134&vpy=88&dur=5510&hovh=259&hovw=195&tx=64&ty=288&ei=TXBtTNDqFIqrnQe9s6y2CA&oei=829tTL7gD5-znAf62ejaBw&esq=6&page=3&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:47&biw=1440&bih=682 vs http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://s.bebo.com/app-image/6178307413/6086838986/PROFILE/quizfarm.com//images/11485535751098112661_areyouGoth%255B1%255D.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp%3FMemberId%3D3955685726&usg=__wNxen9pvVDg_l_dH8xwGsxiO6Po=&h=324&w=300&sz=25&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=On3hXkijEXqD-M:&tbnh=167&tbnw=158&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgoth%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D682%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=376&vpy=111&dur=1313&hovh=233&hovw=216&tx=143&ty=254&ei=529tTOzhHtWhnQee7LzUBw&oei=529tTOzhHtWhnQee7LzUBw&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0/http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/01_04/GothRP2201_468x665.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-509713/Im-human-pet-The-Goth-teenager-fiance-walks-dog-lead.html&usg=__W1STvqbs_WmNpRjBxGWVM-uLUJQ=&h=665&w=468&sz=61&hl=en&start=21&zoom=1&tbnid=UeMJZolwU2WDkM:&tbnh=155&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgoth%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1440%26bih%3D682%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C570&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1024&vpy=83&dur=4494&hovh=268&hovw=188&tx=116&ty=285&ei=oXBtTJ3NONTonQeq47G8CA&oei=529tTOzhHtWhnQee7LzUBw&esq=2&page=2&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:21&biw=1440&bih=682

As for the OP, your kid being emo isn't much to worry about. She'll just dress up/do her hair differently. Obviously, there are negative self harm connotations, but if she's in a caring, loving, environment, it should be a non issue. She'll grow out of it.



I am SO glad I was never allowed to leave the house looking like a idiot.


Oh right, fair enough. I still find that the word "emotional", at least in musical terms, has been hijacked (probably more so by ignorant idiots than people actually in the scene). I mean, my sister called Radiohead emo, as though it was some kind of derogatory slang. If music doesn't give you emotions, what's the point really. Its just noise then.



Yeah, control every area of her life and stop her from making her own decisions. She'll grow up great.


My parents stopped me from making stupid choices, and I am so glad they did. Well until I was 18 that is, from then on I was allowed to make my own stupid choices.
They also explained to me why it was a bad choice.
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An emo, to me is someone who let their emotions get the better of them. Their emotions sort of take control and possibly take away their own values. Usually because they allow it, consciously.

I don't want to offend anyone, but it's difficult with this choice of words: pathetic and weak... that's basically what I feel about them.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:47 am

To expand on my previous statements - while I personally never dressed emo, punk or goth I always appreciated some of the cultural ideas being kicked around in those scenes. I deeply appreciate any person who doesn't automatically accept every mainstream value and who dares to think for themselves and try to find their own way. I think you'll find if you really pay close attention to kids like Emo kids they're usually quite intelligent and more aware of important social issues than other kids their age might be. That's what I admire and respect about them. If you're too strict on your kids about what they can wear or what music they can listen to you may be stifling their continued mental and spiritual growth as people.


The problem I see with the bolded statement is that it's biased. You're talking from the emo-side of the fence, insinuating that the other side does not in-fact think their own way, when they do just as much as the emos who don't think their own way by blending into the emo subculture (e.g. by being "different", they're the same). In other words, emos aren't any more "unique-thinking" than non-emos.

The thing with the italics, again. You're looking at one side of the fence. I've met some mainstream jocks who're the stereotypical meathead, yet have a 4.5+ GPA and are a LOT more interested in this ages social "issues" than the kids sitting around them.

I'm not anti-emo or pro-"mainstream", I have emo friends, I have "mainstream" friends; I've dated emos, I've dated "mainstream". Nothing wrong with either. I just think you gotta look at it from both sides of the fence; you gotta have friends on both sides, you gotta have, in the past, played as both sides (Meaning you can't be sitting on one side as you compare the two, perspective gets funny then.)
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:07 pm

Kids that need to get the crap beaten out of them by the parents.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:16 am

I know a few girls who have cut themselves simply because they want to be "emo". They blame it on family problems and crap like that but it's ridonkulous, cutting yourself helps nobody. Emo's are a waste of skin and space.
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My parents stopped me from making stupid choices, and I am so glad they did. Well until I was 18 that is, from then on I was allowed to make my own stupid choices.
They also explained to me why it was a bad choice.


What where these bad choices? Theres a difference between, like, becoming a heroin addict, and following a fashion.
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:15 am

I know a few girls who have cut themselves simply because they want to be "emo". They blame it on family problems and crap like that but it's ridonkulous, cutting yourself helps nobody. Emo's are a waste of skin and space.

Hold on a second there, how exactly is it "ridonkulous" that someone would cut themselves over family problems? Cutting isn't meant to help oneself, it's a coping mechanism that depressed people use to release serotonin into the brain. I would be more likely to believe these people have real problems, and were drawn to the emo subculture, rather than the other way around. Anyone who cuts has real issues, no matter the reasoning.
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Trevor Bostwick
 
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Post » Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:10 am

Wow, I think people are way too quick to judge. I know some kids who fit into the category of "emo," none of which harm themselves in anyway or let their emotions "take away their own values." They're all actually pretty normal, they just choose to dress differently.
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