You've gone full Otar, never go full Otar!!!

So... "CLANG CLING STAB Oh, jolly good jab! Good thing I'm already dead! Let's go have a mug of mead!" is the same as "ONNNN YOURRRR KNEEESS NIKYYYYYNNNNNN" "Oh gods no, not the Potty Trainer again! AAAAAAAGH!!!!"

50 septims says he'll forget about the Nord hate and proceed to hate the race of the province of the next game. For instance, I expect Mr. Deady to make "Khajiit are scumbag furballs" threads if the next game is in Elsweyr

Um, okay. Just because the concept is similar, (which they really aren't) doesn't automatically mean that Sovngarde is automatically a sub-realm of Dagon. Makes no sense. I think you're looking a little too deep into things which really aren't there in the first place.

I'm not trying to say Ulfric has no military insolvent or expertise. It is his rebellion and he be doing it wrong if he had no idea what was going on. My point is that i don't think hes the tip of the military movement, hes more of the overal leader. As where on the Imperialside Tulluis is the spear tip and Rekke is more of the moral type. Ulfric has many things to worry about unlike Tulluis. Tulluis is just there to fix a problem as where Ulfric is trying to win a war as well as the people and still appear strong and competent for his claim to the High Throne. Thats why he has Galmar for all his major campaigns.

It's Hevnoraak, he'll make drinking Mead look like drinking the blood of a thousand newborn infants if a Nord does it.

Does he really?

http://www.gamesas.com/user/889090-50-septim/

Anyway, I dont think so. He dislikes nords for their ancients committing genocide.

Lol, we should get back to tullius I think

You're totally not one of the most biased Stormcloak supporters. Nope.

Dead-lands is the best place for valorous battles no? Where's the valor in fighting in some marble hall while on a full stomach? I thought nords love challenging and proving their battle-prowess? I can think of no better after-life for them. They can prove their valor and get drunk with the Dremora. Now that's something to boast about. Not what random bear you fought in life. How about a drunken story of a fight with a Dremora while having to dodge spike traps? I'd drink to that! *Obnoxious Nord roar*

If Shor wanted REAL warriors for when he returns on the final day to commit glorious genocide on the elves before the final turning of the wheel, he'd send his chosen to the Deadlands from some real toughing up.

I know what you mean. I just disagree, but I acknowledge that it is possible, considering Galmar is older, and Ulfric didn't have a background of leading lots of soldiers that we know of. What you say could very well be true.

Of course I will. I'll be the first to have an entire slide-show of a bosmer invasion. Led by my psycho bosmer character as retribution for all the skirmishes the skooma junkie Khajiits have committed on the Bosmer...

The point of it is to reward his chosen. Shor seems to me like the leader that gains followers through admiration and reward rather than force, which is why he gives peace to those who prove valiant in life. I think the issue here is you see Shor as Lorkhan. The nords don't see him the way the elves do.



I stand corrected.

Strange, given that every single decision he makes in the entirety of the CW (save for attacking Windhelm) is the wrong one and Rikke has to pick up the pieces and put them in their proper places.

I should have known that this thread wouldn't say on topic for long.

As for Tullius, the General is a man whose world view is not limited to strife and butchery. He is a civilized man who wants the war to be over with as quickly as possible so Tamriel can unite against the real enemy. He clearly doesn't like his mission, but he does it with the best of his ability and also balances with the Thalmor at the same time. Tullius doesn't share the notions of "honor" that the Nords do, and instead his logic is more utilitarian in nature, using any means necessary at his disposal to win, even if it doesn't always condone with the Geneva Convention.

Sure he acts a bit condescending towards the Nords, but I would say that the stance is highly justified given the timing of Ulfric's rebellion - you know, starting a war in middle of mankind's darkest hour which coincidentally is exactly what the Thalmor wanted. Tullius is angry and the longer the war goes on the more he sees Ulfric is a pawn to the Thalmor.