Console

Dlc have only been released on console so far.

By DLC i thought he meant mods. Meh. :facepalm:

Anyways, only the Xbox 360 have got DLC so far (damned Microsoft). And that svcks.

Confusing the map with the area. F3 had a square map & a square area. F:NV has a square map and an irregular area. The map is the area, the menu is not the meal. Perspective.
I sort of understand why people expect a square map (it's a sequel to game with a square map) but I don't understand why it ruins their day so much. I don't remember anyone complaining about Oblivion's weird irregular map. This doesn't seem any different, plus it has actual physical barriers at the borders instead of invisible walls and magic messages.

Point well made my friend. I was thinking about that, that it would be cool if there more locations out there in the Barren wastes on the edges. For example that could more of Deathclaw country or something and only the bravest of Dwellers go out for big game hunting or something like. Who knows, anything is better than just open space with no reachable locations...

To Op visit Canyon wreckage, it looks like a path between the mountain range but you cant get through it, but it has to do with the Lonesome Road DLC

I suppose this was my largest grievence with F:NV. When I started the game I was presented with this huge ass map including massive swaths of Arizona and I'm thinking,
"Killing Legion time will be fun as hell!" but then I'm 50 hours into the game and realize most of Arizona is just [censored] empty. This is one of the best games I've ever played but things like that really broke the flow for me.

Yeah, too bad there is a door there, and we will get transported to a new small cell.

IMO, using the map size as gameplay criteria is a moot point. Unless we can establish the true size of the FO3 vs. FNV map grid we're comparing apples to oranges, running the risk of eventually reaching an inch of nowhere.

True, the DC Wasteland seems subjectively larger, and the additional underground Metro system fairly settles the argument of which game has more map content. Nevertheless, the question of a larger map automatically equating to a better gameplay experience remains open to discussion.

Notwithstanding the map size, the preference of one game over the other remains a totally subjective experience. It's an issue which every player must decide for themselves.

Or if they do make the dllc just remove the door

Or if they do make the dllc just remove the door

It doesn't, it did answer your question "do you think that it is okay that 38,2271% of the map is unreachable?" though.

I think it must be for either dlc or full on expansion pack (there's so much it's hard to believe it's for free content).

I agree about the allocation of location markers, it's not just that some have nothing in them, its that some places desperately need more, Camp McCarren for instance. It's one of the things that give the impression that the game was rushed out before it was really finished.

Still one of the best games I've played.

Yeah, I don't understand why people say FONV is bigger. Not only does it NOT feel bigger, it is not bigger. Also, even though there are more places on the map in FONV a lot of them are small and even just one little shack and some of those one building locations you can't get in to the building. The small locations in FO3 are not marked on the map and the large locations that are marked on the map are huge in comparison to FONV.



Whether one is bigger than the other or not....I agree, Fallout 3 just feels bigger. It's takes longer to walk from one place to the other and more stuff happens on the way, whether it's random encounters or unmarked places on the map to discover.

You know what bothers me? Why can't I get up on the crumbled over passes? Like the one going up towards the Boomers. I tried and tried and there was no way to get up on it. :/

Hardly comforting since the places you could actually play in would fit in a small bucket. Los Angeles for one was barely larger than, say, Pennsylvania Avenue in FO3.

I do not think any big areas of the map will be opened up for DLC.

We will be as others have said whisked off for a 4-6 hour off map loacation each time probably with a dodgy collar strapped to our necks