Enclave tech remains!

Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:07 am

OK the enclave is dead or do they still exist as a major power in Chicago, Alaska, hawaii and Shanghai!
But what happened whittier tech and factory's and all other know-how, did BOS claim it or are they still there for dig up in a coming game?
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Zosia Cetnar
 
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:36 am

Their "tech and factory" was in Raven Rock, which has been destroyed.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:21 am

The Enclave are all but dead. Their "factories" were on the Rig and in Raven Rock.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:41 am

What about their small bunkers over all of the wasteland?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:30 am

What about their small bunkers over all of the wasteland?

Those weren't built by the Enclave, they were pre-war bunkers. The Renmnats in New Vegas came across one and decided to use it.

The only place left where there would be Enclave activity would be Chicago where there is an Outpost(s) and the remnants from DC which would head to Chicago.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:55 am

Those weren't built by the Enclave, they were pre-war bunkers. The Renmnats in New Vegas came across one and decided to use it.

The only place left where there would be Enclave activity would be Chicago where there is an Outpost(s) and the remnants from DC which would head to Chicago.
So there is only the small bunker in Mojave, the destroid rave rock and Adams air base and the rig? plus of course the Chicago outpost? no other small bunkers? there gotta be some small bunkers abonden by the Enclave that have any tech left.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:10 am

So there is only the small bunker in Mojave, the destroid rave rock and Adams air base and the rig? plus of course the Chicago outpost? no other small bunkers? there gotta be some small bunkers abonden by the Enclave that have any tech left.

In Alaska, Hawaii and Shanghai
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:39 am

So there is only the small bunker in Mojave, the destroid rave rock and Adams air base and the rig? plus of course the Chicago outpost? no other small bunkers? there gotta be some small bunkers abonden by the Enclave that have any tech left.
The bunker in the Mojave was an automated refuelling station and Raven Rock and Adams Airforce Base were pre-war government facilities - there's plenty of those left.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:11 am

In Alaska, Hawaii and Shanghai
We're the American goverment and we live in China!
makes sense...
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:09 pm

We're the American goverment and we live in China!
makes sense...
He never does. This topic will go nowhere.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:01 pm

In Alaska, Hawaii and Shanghai

There is no proof that the Enclave are in Alaska, Hawaii or Shaghai. Please stop making crap up.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:07 am

We're the American goverment and we live in China!
makes sense...

As a central hub/HQ for the Chines occupation
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:36 am

As a central hub/HQ for the Chines occupation

The Enclave aren't anywhere but for Chicago and what is left of DC remnants. Why must you make [censored] up all the time and try to pass it off as canon?

There is a world of difference from old pre-war American tech and Enclave tech. Don't confuse American tech with Enclave tech, which is what you are doing.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:38 am

As a central hub/HQ for the Chines occupation
Give one good reason why Enclave members would have had a part in the Chinas occupation.... Every american wasn't in the Enclave.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:49 pm

Yes they are dead and gone, as a major power yes.
But back to the point, what happens whit the tech, know-how and their production?
Did anyone save the data? did anyone made any use of their remains?
Is there old facilities area for ppl to do digging in and reclaim it on some ways?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:16 am

Yes they are dead and gone, as a major power yes.
But back to the point, what happens whit the tech, know-how and their production?
Did anyone save the data? did anyone made any use of their remains?
Is there old facilities area for ppl to do digging in and reclaim it on some ways?
I believe they kept some kind of records on their technological breakthroughs, but I don't think they left any tech lying around anywhere. Unless it's in some destroyed base but it would probably been scavenged by now.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:19 pm

I believe they kept some kind of records on their technological breakthroughs, but I don't think they left any tech lying around anywhere. Unless it's in some destroyed base but it would probably been scavenged by now.
Really no matter where I go in the recent games absolutely everything is exactly as it was just after the war - with a few exceptions - ;)
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:23 pm

Really no matter where I go in the recent games absolutely everything is exactly as it was just after the war - with a few exceptions - :wink:
You know why? Magic! :sorcerer:
(and possibly dangerous enviroments)
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:57 am

Well, where my opinion differs is that the Enclave does have other bunkers, vaults, military bases, etc that they have control of.

Why? Because the Enclave want that stuff. Proven in games, Enclave "raid" pre war bases of this nature.

If the find one that would make a suitable base, they wouldn't just leave it. They woukd take it.

All bases, bunkers, etc in game are pre-war. The rig, pre-war. RR, pre-war. They don't build bases, they take them over.

The Enclave were performing mainland ops as early as 10 years after FO1. Probably earlier than that. You do not perform land ops undetected for 100 some years without bases, stations, bunkers you can hide out in while doing the op. Basically, there supply line wasn't 200 some miles away.

For example. I am in the Enclave. I am exploring region A. It would be a waste of valuable resources if every day, I pack up all my gear, travel back to the rig, then next day load up all my gear, head back out and repeat.

What is more likely is I setup a base in region B, and from that location I can explore region A, C, D, and E. Depending on my mission depends on how big my base of ops has to be, and if the mission was temporary or ongoing.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:04 pm


The bunker in the Mojave was an automated refuelling station and Raven Rock and Adams Airforce Base were pre-war government facilities - there's plenty of those left.

And why would the Enclave need or want such a thing? Because they were performing ops. Mojave/Vegas is a long way from Navarro.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:00 am

I hope Bethesda ignores all the events that happened to the Enclave in Fallout 3, I think is it just better to ignore Fallout 3 totally and just stick to the classics and just have Navarro and the oil rig destroyed.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:32 am

And why would the Enclave need or want such a thing? Because they were performing ops. Mojave/Vegas is a long way from Navarro.
But I thought they captured pre-war installations.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:03 am


But I thought they captured pre-war installations.

Obviously the remnants didn't build the bunker in the mojave. It was a pre-war bunker.

Seems to me that the Enclave took control of that bunker and refurbished it to suit their needs. So, what would the Enclave need a refueling station for in the Mojave? Unleas they were performing ops?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:59 pm

Obviously the remnants didn't build the bunker in the mojave. It was a pre-war bunker.

Seems to me that the Enclave took control of that bunker and refurbished it to suit their needs. So, what would the Enclave need a refueling station for in the Mojave? Unleas they were performing ops?
It tells me that they occupy structures to suit their needs, so what? There's government bunkers in Florida I assume but the Enclave isn't running any ops there. If they had constructed the base it would be a very clear indication of major Enclave interest, as it's just a pre-war refueling pad that some old timers landed in it doesn't amount to anything really; the Enclave come and go, so what?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 8:16 am


It tells me that they occupy structures to suit their needs, so what? There's government bunkers in Florida I assume but the Enclave isn't running any ops there. If they had constructed the base it would be a very clear indication of major Enclave interest, as it's just a pre-war refueling pad that some old timers landed in it doesn't amount to anything really; the Enclave come and go, so what?

I highly doubt the "old timers" just landed there and found it themselves. Finding a hidden bunker like that which magically works perfectly for a Vertibird refueling station... That, would be luck.

More likely the Enclave found that facility and refurbished it years earlier, probably before the events in FO2. Then, when the old timers went there, they knew exactly where they were going, and not relying on hope and a prayer.

I'm sure there are many such facilities around the west, possibly some larger than others.

This is exactly what the BoS did in tactics. Why would the Enclave be any different?
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