[Bird]

Does anyone have good Infomation to state that the enclave might be back for the third time around?

[Theodore Walling]

The Enclave is dead, IIRC, three times now they've been destroyed. Once on the rig, and again at Project Purity, and a third time at Addams Air Force Base. Let the Enclave rest in peace. Find a new enemy rather than continue reusing the same ones over and over and over and over.

[Andres Lechuga]

Well. You do make a good point. But it was confirmed that the fallout story will be happening around 2277. This could mean enclave personnel in the Boston area as scouts or even starting a new base of operations.

[Rachie Stout]

The Enclave do supposedly have outposts in Chicago.

But it unlikely that they will come back in a large force for some time.

[Emily Shackleton]

Enclave power armor is in the game, from the e3 video.

Of course that could just be reminants of them.

[REVLUTIN]

Third time? They've been beaten three times already. If they're in Fallout 4, I really hope they have a very, VERY small role.

New Vegas did this very well.

[Claudia Cook]

This is what I am hoping for. I don't mind having them there in a similar vein as in New Vegas, but as they were in FO3 ought to be out of the question. They are dead as a major faction and need to stay that way.

[Izzy Coleman]

Enclave is a decentralize organization with many backup plans, u can see that not only on old fallout game, but during Fallout 3, so probably i will said that maybe we will see some Enclave on Boston, maybe not as major threat but maybe as a side mission or faction.

[Cat]

There is a chance we could see enclave survivors from the Capital Wasteland perhaps as high tech raiders or mercs.

There could also be non combatants mixed in.

The Commonwealth would be one place that their high tech skills would be in serious demand and it has the tech base to support their weapons and armor.

Image being asked to work with Enclave remnants to rescue Enclave non combatants from Slavers.

[NIloufar Emporio]

I don't mind the Enclave having a presence via survivors and hidden caches of equipment - but that's it. Broken Steel really cemented the notion that they were probably little fish from here on out.

[SexyPimpAss]

We probably have just as much evidence Fallout 4 doesn't take place in 2277 as there is evidence it does, so I don't think that matters.

We do see Eyebots and Enclave Power Armor in the gameplay footage, though, but nothing that actually said "Enclave"; Eyebots may have found new owners, and the power armor is called X-01, no faction affiliation whatsoever in the title. Knowing all of this, I'd say we will learn more about the Enclave; whether they're a major faction in their own right (I don't see it happening), a few scattered remnants like New Vegas (possible), or the remaining Enclave members were absorbed into the Institute, or something else none of us are expecting.

[Emmi Coolahan]

If they keep popping back up I'll keep killing them.

[Jack]

Let there be an easter egg where a bunch of Enclave soldiers have died from drug overdose, around a shrine with a toaster on it with the name Eden written on it.

[Alexis Estrada]

Please no Enclave! Just let them R.I.P!

[Czar Kahchi]

Lw: So, have we totally wiped out the Enclave?

Lyons: It would be naive of me to assume the Enclave threat is completely eradicated from our future. With their resources and advanced mobility, I wouldn't be surprised if we see them return to the Capital Wasteland one day.

[DeeD]

It does depend- somewhat- on the time-frame we are looking at. Parallel to the events of F3, for instance would mean they're still a viable faction. However, I shouldn't think in any huge numbers. Because, if it were parallel to the events of F3, most Enclave would be pretty busy with PP and fighting a war and all.

If it's after F3, we're looking at remnants, so the numbers would be small, also.

That isn't to say if Bethesda wanted to bring them back it would be impossible.
Say, if a small portion of what's left of the EC Enclave were hunting for any vaults to open, in order to bring new prime-normals into their ranks to build again........ perhaps some day they could be something again.

Perhaps after the events of F2, the Enclave as they Headed East, decided to keep (some)women and children in hidden bunkers that were not attached to their base of operations.

I would prefer newer factions, though.

[Chantel Hopkin]

Doesn't the Institute take the role of the Enclave in Fallout 4? A secretive organization that has developed technology beyond what was available in 2077. I want the Enclave to have as much presences as they do in New Vegas.

[Charlotte X]

No. Aside from their armour appearing under a different name there is nothing to suggest that they might reappear again, nor should they.

[krystal sowten]

So who do you think is using X-01 Power Armor and Eyebots, if not the Enclave? I'm not disagreeing with you, I just don't know what's up with that.

[DAVId MArtInez]

Eyebots were not an Enclave invention, nor were they solely used by the Enclave.

[benjamin corsini]

Given that it's called X, as in the designation for experimental projects, it could very-well be some pre-war prototype of what became Enclave Power Armour.
Or it could merely be a designation that Bethesda gave it because "Enclave Power Armour" kind of sticks out against the rest of them named "T-60a" and so-forth.

Maybe it'll be like T-51b in Fallout 3 since it does appear to be the strongest of what we've seen in-terms of stats and you have to do a quest or assemble it over the course of a few quests.

Eyebots may be being used by the Brotherhood of Steel since they're using all the other Enclave technology like Vertibirds.

[suniti]

I dont care if there in or not to a smaller extent the brotherehood too. all I want is a faction that has access to energy based tech finding ammo for energy guns at a low level in fo3 was a pain in my rectum......also offtopic if you read and say FO4 like a word you just end up saying four...that is all.

[мistrєss]

If our timeline parallels FO3, or occurs just after the events of FO3, there could still be a Enclave presence in Boston. It makes sense that a tech hungry faction would go where there is lots of tech, and Boston seems to have plenty of it. They could be there simply as advisors to the Institute for combating BoS and stray synths. Since the Institute has plenty of technology, they may not need many soldiers, but having military commanders to advise on strategy might be a smart move on their part.

[Manuel rivera]

I've said it before on a different thread but I quite like the enclave and don't understand all the resentment towards them. I sympathise with their goal of restoring the old world and find it touchingly sentimental: in fact, I think a wasteland without such a faction would be a much more nihilistic and desolate place.

If the United States was a person, and the great war was an attempt to kill him, then surely the enclave are like emergency life support trying to keep him alive. What's evil about that?

[M!KkI]

They want to restore the United States in the sense that they are the United States and they want to survive. I mean ttheir culture isn't even remotely similar to that the of the pre-war United States.


Mass genocide? Kinda strikes me as a smidge evil.