Enjoyed skyrim tremendously, but...

Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:17 am

I started my fan status with morrowind, and have been a full-scale follower of TES ever since, and have managed to get my hands on all the previous games as well.

From my playtime in skyrim, I enjoyed everything present in the game a great deal (Though the interface for the PC really did need to be tweaked a little.) The action, graphics, story, and music were all great, the gameplay smooth and very rewarding. But I finished it. I did all the major faction quests, the main quests, got married, explored the entire map, and played every major playstyle... On one character. I don't really feel that that's right that it's so easy to be a perfect generalist in skyrim, but that's not really the core of what I'm getting at.

I did all that, all of it, before december. And just to see if I missed anything, I did it all a second time on a new character just now, looking for things I'd missed. From what's present in Skyrim, I love the game, but it's what's missing that makes me feel bad about it. There are a lot fewer skills in the game, that in my opinion, make it a lot harder for an RPG fan to make a character with the specializations they want to. There's far, far less in the way of character customization, (Character abilities, skills, etc. Not appearance wise.) and enchantment has been severely reduced. Not in effectiveness, but in player control. And spellmaking is completely gone. Moreover, with a couple hours of work, my heavy armor orc fighter can also become a thief/assassin extraordinaire that would make the dark brotherhood as green as I am, just with envy. while I feel that any character should be able to pursue any skills, it also feels like it's too rewarding to be a jack of all trades.

The side quests, and factions. I love them, I really do. They're well thought out, and well executed. Unfortunately no faction line has taken me more than two hours of 'normal' gaming to complete absolutely. (As opposed to powergaming through the objectives)

I love what's present in Skyrim. I really, really do. But there's so little to it that I'm done already. Twice. That was practically impossible in morrowind without a great deal of time invested, and even oblivion was more difficult to ''max out'' as a game. I'm not trying to say the older games were better. The improvements that have been made are undeniably a great boon to the series, with a level of action playability that really satisfies. But all the things that have been removed make this barely feel like an Elder Scrolls game anymore.

I for one can't wait to see if we can have the creation kit bring back some of the diversity and specialization present in some of the previous games, and definitely eagerly awaiting mroe content so that I have something else to play through.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:31 pm

You have too much time on your hands, because I haven't done 50% of everything with 100hrs of playing.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:07 pm

You have too much time on your hands, because I haven't done 50% of everything with 100hrs of playing.


I have to agree. I don't even have a job and I am only about 50 hours into the game.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:33 pm

You have too much time on your hands, because I haven't done 50% of everything with 100hrs of playing.



I work full time, so here's my question: How are you playing through? Maybe it's something I'm not getting. I use fast travel, but only sparingly, and talk to plenty of NPCs who don't go out of their way to speak to me. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong (Or right, depending on your point of view.)
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:25 am

I started my fan status with morrowind, and have been a full-scale follower of TES ever since, and have managed to get my hands on all the previous games as well.

From my playtime in skyrim, I enjoyed everything present in the game a great deal (Though the interface for the PC really did need to be tweaked a little.) The action, graphics, story, and music were all great, the gameplay smooth and very rewarding. But I finished it. I did all the major faction quests, the main quests, got married, explored the entire map, and played every major playstyle... On one character. I don't really feel that that's right that it's so easy to be a perfect generalist in skyrim, but that's not really the core of what I'm getting at.

I did all that, all of it, before december. And just to see if I missed anything, I did it all a second time on a new character just now, looking for things I'd missed. From what's present in Skyrim, I love the game, but it's what's missing that makes me feel bad about it. There are a lot fewer skills in the game, that in my opinion, make it a lot harder for an RPG fan to make a character with the specializations they want to. There's far, far less in the way of character customization, (Character abilities, skills, etc. Not appearance wise.) and enchantment has been severely reduced. Not in effectiveness, but in player control. And spellmaking is completely gone. Moreover, with a couple hours of work, my heavy armor orc fighter can also become a thief/assassin extraordinaire that would make the dark brotherhood as green as I am, just with envy. while I feel that any character should be able to pursue any skills, it also feels like it's too rewarding to be a jack of all trades.

The side quests, and factions. I love them, I really do. They're well thought out, and well executed. Unfortunately no faction line has taken me more than two hours of 'normal' gaming to complete absolutely. (As opposed to powergaming through the objectives)

I love what's present in Skyrim. I really, really do. But there's so little to it that I'm done already. Twice. That was practically impossible in morrowind without a great deal of time invested, and even oblivion was more difficult to ''max out'' as a game. I'm not trying to say the older games were better. The improvements that have been made are undeniably a great boon to the series, with a level of action playability that really satisfies. But all the things that have been removed make this barely feel like an Elder Scrolls game anymore.

I for one can't wait to see if we can have the creation kit bring back some of the diversity and specialization present in some of the previous games, and definitely eagerly awaiting mroe content so that I have something else to play through.


In all honestly...the TES series needed a reboot. It was getting old...bland and boring. Skyrim is a fresh start. Sure, it's not perfect, but IMO it's the right direction for TES:VI. Maybe we'll get those useless attributes (with the exception to speed) everybody has been clamouring about, ONTOP of the improvments Skyrim brought. But TES needed a change, and I give props to Beth for having the balls for bringing change. From here on out, things only get better.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:01 pm

There really are three options for you:

1) create some limits for your characters - things he should / not do. Lets say you create some sort of Paladin... that guy should not engage in Thieves / Assassin Guilds, should help Mages and their quests only if tjey are true and devoted to order + good, do not engage in murders, stealing, etc...
2) if that somehow is NOT possible or does not help you, you can hope for community mods;
3) If community mods are not good enough, you can only go back to MW or OB, as there could be more the kind of freedom / specialisation you are looking for.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:44 am

I have exactly 100 hours in (that includes a main character in the early 30's and an alt in still below 5) and I've not touched half of the game. I've all but JUST begun the faction stuff, I've explored 3/4 the map, done half the dungeon locations I've discovered. I haven't even been to all the towns yet. I've only explored one single dwemer ruin, I haven't gotten married, I only own the Whiterun house. For the voice, I have Unrelenting Force 3, Fire Breath 1, Ice Breath 1, Slow Time 1, Whirlwind Sprint 1, Marked For Death 2, and Elemental Fury 1. I still have a 'TUN' of content to get through on my main game lol.

So all I can say is slow the F down lol. I have a friend who did 'everything' in oblivion in a matter of days. He didn't do all the dungeons (granted who did.. Oblivion dungeons were so f'ing boring). The rest of my friends were having a blast, sharing our tales, etc. He spent two months bored off his [censored] while he waited for the good DLC and good content mods. For you, since you've done it all already, I suggest putting the game aside for a few months while we wait for DLC and the mod tools to get released so the community can start creating some content mods. :)
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:52 am

I think that if you are finding yourself playing through the game and blasting through all of the content so quickly, then you should try upgrading the difficulty. Im playing on expert currently, and I find it to be a very satisfactory challenge. The enemies aren't pushovers, and it takes a greater amount skill and strategy to push through them. I don't know, you might find more enjoyment in a bigger challenge...
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:03 pm

i think you burn yourself out, especially with doing everything on on character.

however, yes, we have less choices compare to Oblivion, even less compare to Morrowind
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:50 pm

I started my fan status with morrowind, and have been a full-scale follower of TES ever since, and have managed to get my hands on all the previous games as well.

From my playtime in skyrim, I enjoyed everything present in the game a great deal (Though the interface for the PC really did need to be tweaked a little.) The action, graphics, story, and music were all great, the gameplay smooth and very rewarding. But I finished it. I did all the major faction quests, the main quests, got married, explored the entire map, and played every major playstyle... On one character. I don't really feel that that's right that it's so easy to be a perfect generalist in skyrim, but that's not really the core of what I'm getting at.

I did all that, all of it, before december. And just to see if I missed anything, I did it all a second time on a new character just now, looking for things I'd missed. From what's present in Skyrim, I love the game, but it's what's missing that makes me feel bad about it. There are a lot fewer skills in the game, that in my opinion, make it a lot harder for an RPG fan to make a character with the specializations they want to. There's far, far less in the way of character customization, (Character abilities, skills, etc. Not appearance wise.) and enchantment has been severely reduced. Not in effectiveness, but in player control. And spellmaking is completely gone. Moreover, with a couple hours of work, my heavy armor orc fighter can also become a thief/assassin extraordinaire that would make the dark brotherhood as green as I am, just with envy. while I feel that any character should be able to pursue any skills, it also feels like it's too rewarding to be a jack of all trades.

The side quests, and factions. I love them, I really do. They're well thought out, and well executed. Unfortunately no faction line has taken me more than two hours of 'normal' gaming to complete absolutely. (As opposed to powergaming through the objectives)

I love what's present in Skyrim. I really, really do. But there's so little to it that I'm done already. Twice. That was practically impossible in morrowind without a great deal of time invested, and even oblivion was more difficult to ''max out'' as a game. I'm not trying to say the older games were better. The improvements that have been made are undeniably a great boon to the series, with a level of action playability that really satisfies. But all the things that have been removed make this barely feel like an Elder Scrolls game anymore.

I for one can't wait to see if we can have the creation kit bring back some of the diversity and specialization present in some of the previous games, and definitely eagerly awaiting mroe content so that I have something else to play through.



Way too much spare time on your hands friend. I'm 60 hours in and done more or less bugger all.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:05 am

Tx for playing bai!
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:16 am

You're missing out a lot of quests, as there are 300 hours of content in this game, and that's excluding all of the time you spend on walking around doing whatever. Try talking to random people about a job or something. There's lots of stuff to do. Also, you sound like you have a little too much time on your hands.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:30 am

I've clocked at least 60-70 hours, and I haven't even been to Markarth, Morthal or Solitude...like, haven't even gone to the western side of the map. I think you may have just grinded the piss out of the game in the sense of beating every quest and becoming as powerful as possible without actually getting INTO it.

as well, I firmly stand behind the removal of spell-making, as it broke the game so badly it wasn't even funny.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:51 pm

I laugh at the grinders. I'm 60 hours in and there are still at least 3 major cities that I haven't been to. I just found my 100th location last night. There are areas on the map that are huge and unexplored. I'm only 3 quests into the Companions Guild, and won't touch the CoW, TG, or DB with this character.

Through all of that, I have never had a shortage of things to do. In fact I'm overwhelmed by how many locations and quests there are, regardless of whether they're major, side, or minor quests.

This game will keep me entertained for months. I feel sorry for anyone that's already blown through everything in the game.

And then I'll start Morrowind GOTY edition on Xbox 360 for the first time.

Yeah, it's looking like a busy gaming schedule for me. I couldn't be happier.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:53 am

All right... How many quests have you done?

I am not even close to finish this game... There are thousands of quests for me to do...

Misc quests and normal quests.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:54 pm

I know what you mean, I have sunk a good amount of time into Skyrim, maybe 90-120 hours in across 3 characters, and yeah, I'm pretty much done. I was hoping that the CK would get here soon so I could tweak things and play through it again, which is a shame as it is now due to come out in freaking January, but oh well.

And I have not been taking things fast in the least. I think most people still engrossed with 80 hrs in, still not having visited half the cities are going SUPER slow, like walking between cities perhaps.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:46 am

Enjoyed skyrim tremendously, but...

...then you took an arrow in the knee?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:48 am

Walk me through how you got to Thieves Guild master within 2 hours.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:12 am

You have too much time on your hands, because I haven't done 5% of everything with 100hrs of playing.


Fixed it so it fits myself.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:48 am

Huh, that's wierd that you've finished the game...you must be a time traveler as the game has only been out for about a month and it takes a century to complete :P
But seriously for somone who claims they've played a lot of Morrowind I can't see how you found that game to have more content. After my short amount of time playing Skyrim, it already feels bigger and more fleshed out than all the years I've spent playing Morrowind
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:27 pm

"Enjoyed Skyrim tremendously, but..." You took an arrow in the knee?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:48 am

Well sorry you're played out. I myself don't see how its possible myself but diffferent styles. I have several characters to play from different perspectives and different builds and I've barely scratched the surface. I do stop to smell the roses so to speak. Try to play like the character would react and act and that slows me down. Oblivion and Morrowind gave me years of enjoyment using this sytem and looks like Skyrin will also. You would be surprized how differnt the same quest cane be when playing differnt type characters, Gandalf's solution will be not at all like Conan's.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:02 pm

Really OP?

Were you roleplaying Usain Bolt?

Slow down dude.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:41 pm

Steam says I have 115 hours in the game and I know for a fact I've barely scratched the surface because I have the game guide and haven't touched most of the stuff in it.

Completing the main quest is not finishing the game. Becoming the archmage or leader of a guild is not completing the game. There's pretty much no way you've cleared every dungeon, fort, cave and bandit hideout. There's no way you've done every quest in every town.

I know this because some of the dungeons I've been in are 2-3 hours long- mathematically it's IMPOSSIBLE for you to have done everything in 20 days. So...yeah. You may be tired of the game, you may feel you've gotten everything out of it, but you haven't even begun if you're a real RPG fan.
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