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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:06 am

To the underwater thing, go shoot a gun under water and find out what happens. Hell it is probably on youtube. Water acts more like a solid when traveling at high velocities due to its high tension(attraction) between molecules, a traditional gun won't work. I don't believe a bullet would even shoot being submerged in water, because most gunpower reactions require oxygen. Not positive on the last part, they might actually fire, but I know the bullets wouldn't go very far. Also no smart system? meh. I'd rather have a jetpack level for something similar to that, but I like what they have in place.

Some sort of organic biodome would be required for sustainable resources. Food, carbon dioxide filtration, lots of uses. Would be a fun level if done right too.

As to why Brink's "island" is so hot, it is simple. Ice reflects most energy(light), while water absorbs most energy. If the ice caps are all gone, the worlds temperture will increase, and snowfall probably won't happen in the middle of the ocean(probably only on the highest peaks of land mass, if at all). Seasons will probably fade away, as the oceans conveyor system will stop working which helps balance world temperature. There isnt enough water on earth to submerge all of the land mass around the world. Also, as the water temperature rises, hurricanes will be more frequent and more powerful around the world, and occur in places they previously havent(If you live in New York, you might want to move in the next 10-20 years). These new hurricanes will make the ones we see today look like lil cute baby hurricanes. There wouldn't be a "safe place" for this island unles it was built in the far north or far south, and even that is a maybe.

There high and low areas, valleys would be flooded, the peaks will still be there. Hawaii formed in the middle of the ocean, due to high volcanic activity. It has the potential to rise with sea level with enough volcanic activity. As for Mount Everest being under water, you do relize it is ~30000 feet high right? The water level isn't going to be 6 miles higher, a most a few 1000 feet.

(In the real world) There is a reason global warming is a big issue right now, and yes I am a super nerd. We also might be on the verge of our magnetic core shifting, which no one knows what would really happen except your compas will point in opposite directions.

That being said, Brink does use some of the concepts of the real world, but I doubt the use them all, so any scenario is possible.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/09/080926105021.htm if you are curious abotu the magnetic core. If you can't find good science articles about real effects of global warming, shame on you.
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:41 am

But one of the conflicts of the story is that the resistance want to leave and search for some dry land while security don't want to waste their resources to attempt it. The addition of a massive boat in the harbor, a military one no less, wouldn't make it much of a waste. This also is not a military game, security is merely a police force that has grown in proportion to the strife on the Ark.

Hm, true.

Though it is really odd to live on a floating island without having boats capable of 500-1000 people.
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:29 pm

There must be some way to leave...I mean, by what method did all the refugees arrive on the Ark anyways? Life rafts?
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:27 am

There must be some way to leave...I mean, by what method did all the refugees arrive on the Ark anyways? Life rafts?

20 years ago they arrived on boats, on a "green" artificial island that has no fuel.
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:53 pm

20 years ago they arrived on boats, on a "green" artificial island that has no fuel.


I guess you have a point there. They've probably broke the boats down into scrap metal as well for repairs and other utilities...
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:26 pm

My wish list:

1. Underground maintenance tunnels. Steam, pipes, wires. Could be a Resistance sabotage mission like the Reactor one.

2. Snow covered mountain village on the mainland. Security tracking down Resistance escapees? Possibly...

3. Founders' Tower. Similar to the Citadel in Half Life 2. That would be a great place for the final Resistance mission.

4. Greenhouse level, complete with row after row of plants and trees.

5. Aquarium, complete with smashable glass tanks. Adds a whole new layer to battle when you need to watch the walls for enemies bursting through the glass.

6. Military warship/aircraft carrier, possibly an abandoned one. Lots of fast indoor movement, but with a big deck.


The problem with 2 is that it would be counter-productive to chase down the group of people you wanted off in the first place. "Come here you disgusting Resistance. I have fought to have you off my precious Ark, but I must obtain your kill in order to get the epics clothing waiting for me. Yes, that is my sole purpose for this mission. I have conquered the slum that is Container City and have acquired your vile leaflets and rusty pistol. But I need the armoooooooooooor!" Falls off slippery ice edge to his death.
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:46 am

I don't think natural environments really fit the world of brink. The people are living on an artificial island in the middle of the ocean, overpopulated, dilapidated, and plagued by civil war, something tells me there are no friendly national parks or pleasant farms among the rolling hills of the non-existent country side.
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:51 pm

I don't think natural environments really fit the world of brink. The people are living on an artificial island in the middle of the ocean, overpopulated, dilapidated, and plagued by civil war, something tells me there are no friendly national parks or pleasant farms among the rolling hills of the non-existent country side.


Who said the environments had to be pleasant? :P
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:39 pm

Who said the environments had to be pleasant? :P



Indeed Container City is a dump. Is this really what we want the rest of the Ark to look like.
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:30 am

Who said the environments had to be pleasant? :P

Right, but compare container city to a relatively unpleasant farm, now which is more unpleasant? My vote would be the decrepit container city rather then a farm au naturel.

edit - The "pleasant" part of the Ark should be the Security side, and the unpleasant part is the Resistance side. There's no room for forests and natural environments.
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:42 pm

Right, but compare container city to a relatively unpleasant farm, now which is more unpleasant? My vote would be the decrepit container city rather then a farm au naturel.

edit - The "pleasant" part of the Ark should be the Security side, and the unpleasant part is the Resistance side. There's no room for forests and natural environments.



Maybe just maybe a greenhouse or something this was a "green" project after all.
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:33 am

Maybe just maybe a greenhouse or something this was a "green" project after all.


A small Biodome, possibly used to domesticate edible plants? Or green-fuel? Although the latter is probably not possible, due to the fact that the Ark wasn't meant to use fuel.
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:44 pm

A small Biodome, possibly used to domesticate edible plants? Or green-fuel? Although the latter is probably not possible, due to the fact that the Ark wasn't meant to use fuel.

But some other systems on the ark might require some sort of fuel.
Maybe a greenhouse for medical purposes?
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:32 am

You know what I've always wanted to know? If you go to Brink's website and look at the map of the Ark. near the upper right area, there seems to be some sort of facility isolated from the rest of everything else. I'm curious as to why that is. Some sort of important facility? Or a [censored] play-pen?
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:36 pm

I've always thought how large is the tip of the founder's tower. Because all we see of it are pictures from a mile away. As far as we know there could be a lot of space on top of the tower to duke it out. Imagine the high winds you would hear blowing in your ear as you fight against the enemy. That level would definitely have natural hazards being a thousand feet up and all. Just my idea for a map. :whistling:
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:15 am

Although I know it has no place to be in the context of Brink, I'd love to see Arpeggio's airship from Sly 2 Band of Thieves be a level.
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:48 am

Indeed Container City is a dump. Is this really what we want the rest of the Ark to look like.

Even in Container City I'd expect to see some backyard-garden for growing potatoes or the like.
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:33 pm

A biodome would seem plausible, i mean they had to have gotten their food from somewhere right??? (Off topic) When someone wrote down greenhouse/forest they thought of zombies? Why does everyone want a zombie level now days? I know im late to bring this up but really? Why not evil mutated plants or something? end rant.
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:49 pm

Neither of those fits Brink. The storyline is realistic in an effort to pull the player in. The moment it adds an unrealistic sci-fi or horror element it will subtract from the immersion.

And Paul Wedgwood said something about algae farms for food. Probably not the only food, but the "Greenhouse", if they have one, May not be exactly what you guys are thinking of.
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:35 am

a oil rig out at sea would be a cool map they have a lot of pipes poles and crates to jump and climb on plus there would be a good bit of cover
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:31 pm

a oil rig out at sea would be a cool map they have a lot of pipes poles and crates to jump and climb on plus there would be a good bit of cover

Oil rig isn't a possibility.
First, the ark runs on green energy, no CO2 emission whatsoever (So no coal, no oil, nothing else based on Carbon)
Secondly, all oil rigs where probably destroyed by the giant flood that covered/covers the earth.
Thirdly: If an oil rig would have survived, it would be a heap of scrap, useless, unable to acces.
If the third thing applies: They can't repair it either because they already have few resources.
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:52 am

Or, if you want a more simple argument - Oil rigs are always close to shore, because they are built up from the sea floor. If you were that close to land, most of the story would be pointless.
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:01 am

Oil rig isn't a possibility.
First, the ark runs on green energy, no CO2 emission whatsoever (So no coal, no oil, nothing else based on Carbon)
Secondly, all oil rigs where probably destroyed by the giant flood that covered/covers the earth.
Thirdly: If an oil rig would have survived, it would be a heap of scrap, useless, unable to acces.
If the third thing applies: They can't repair it either because they already have few resources.


well what if it broke off the sea floor and its floating and it be cool if it was a heap of scrap it be like contaner city
plus you could easily get to it by boat and why would they need to repair it when your
probably going to be having a battle on it
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Post » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:55 pm

Someone mentioned an underwater level, maybe they could make a DLC about it?

Underwater guns right here-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-P578pnctU
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Post » Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:12 am

Someone mentioned an underwater level, maybe they could make a DLC about it?

Underwater guns right here-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-P578pnctU

The Russians made all kinds of underwater weapons, there are other governments that have done it as well, but not nearly as many as the Russians have. The only reason i know this is from wandering through pages and pages of weapons for another thread. Still, balancing a whole new list of weapons for a single map seems a bit far-fetched.
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