Eruption At Red Mountain?

Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:11 am

As for the Telvanni, in the game "Skyrim" ---
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there's a quest I'm only at the beginning of; a Dunmer who was found as an orphan by an Argonian couple tells you he was wrapped in a blanket with Telvanni markings, and asks you to look into his origins. He speaks about the Telvanni in the past tense, as if they've been gone ever since the Red Year. I don't know this yet for certain but I'm going to look into the quest.

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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:10 am

As for the Telvanni, in the game "Skyrim" ---
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there's a quest I'm only at the beginning of; a Dunmer who was found as an orphan by an Argonian couple tells you he was wrapped in a blanket with Telvanni markings, and asks you to look into his origins. He speaks about the Telvanni in the past tense, as if they've been gone ever since the Red Year. I don't know this yet for certain but I'm going to look into the quest.




This is sad news. Hopefully Fyr managed to survive the onslaught of red year.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:39 am

This is sad news. Hopefully Fyr managed to survive the onslaught of red year.


On this forum, one of the devs wrote that Fyr did survive. Although I don't know if this is canon, that's good enough for me.

(Actually I wouldn't expect him to have survived, even with his tower and underground Corprusarium, but that's just my guess.)
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:24 am

As for the Telvanni, in the game "Skyrim" ---
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there's a quest I'm only at the beginning of; a Dunmer who was found as an orphan by an Argonian couple tells you he was wrapped in a blanket with Telvanni markings, and asks you to look into his origins. He speaks about the Telvanni in the past tense, as if they've been gone ever since the Red Year. I don't know this yet for certain but I'm going to look into the quest.



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I recall that quest later revealing that he is the last of the Telvanni house, didn't it? I don't remember it clearly.

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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:13 am

On this forum, one of the devs wrote that Fyr did survive. Although I don't know if this is canon, that's good enough for me.

(Actually I wouldn't expect him to have survived, even with his tower and underground Corprusarium, but that's just my guess.)


I must have missed that. Good news to hear. Wonder if his daughters and yagrum made it out.
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:42 am

So...Telvanni is down too? Seriously? What's with this massive cluster [censored] of Morrowind?
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:53 am

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I recall that quest later revealing that he is the last of the Telvanni house, didn't it? I don't remember it clearly.


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I got the impression from that quest that he was the last of the Telvanni, as in the name itself. Not the last of the Telvanni house, but the last of the "Telvanni" bloodline. Which disappoints me seeing as how one of my characters is named Endar Telvanni.


My personal opinion on the Telvanni is that there are probably still some living in the Telvanni Islands and the capital of Port Telvannis because those islands were probably relatively untouched by the disasters and Argonians. As for Fyr:

Divayth die?

Naaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh....

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Post » Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:29 pm

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I got the impression from that quest that he was the last of the Telvanni, as in the name itself. Not the last of the Telvanni house, but the last of the "Telvanni" bloodline. Which disappoints me seeing as how one of my characters is named Endar Telvanni.


My personal opinion on the Telvanni is that there are probably still some living in the Telvanni Islands and the capital of Port Telvannis because those islands were probably relatively untouched by the disasters and Argonians. As for Fyr:


I just finished reading the journal of the character's father, found in a shipwreck not far from the mage college. His father calls him the last heir of House Telvanni and indicates he was born around 4E6, which the journal gives as the year that the Argonians invaded and crushed House Telvanni, partly as revenge for slavery. Now my character is returning to tell him of his heritage. Not a bad sidequest; it's interesting to see a Dunmer who's a living link between the Red Year and the time of "Skyrim".
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:03 am

I think the Telvanni might have done remarkably well in this. Apparently only southern Vvardenfel was occupied. I assume the Argonians don't have the strength or courage to risk meddling in the affairs of wizards.

I would think that, though I would also remember that the Argonians hated the Telvanni the most of all the houses for their most-flagrant practice of slavery. That, and while not as magically inclined as the mer (or manmer) races, the Argonians were still relatively gifted in magic, so it's not like it was a bunch of luddites going against one of Tamriel's most-powerful groups of wizards. I'd rank the Telvanni third, behind the Altmer of Summerset Alinor, and the (not really organized) mages of the Illiac bay. As after all:
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Nulfaga, in spite of being "just a Breton," DID conjure a hurricane in the dead of winter on an hour's notice, after all

I don't think that they managed to capture ALL of Morrowind's mainland, but likely went quite deep into it, and probably focused a lot on the Telvanni Peninsula. (I never heard if there was another name for it, admittedly) I doubt they'd have actually taken the Telvanni Isles, though. While the Argonians COULD arguably swim, it's quite a distance, and the waters are dangerous even if you can't drown. I know the Sea of Ghosts was infamous for a really bad dreugh and slaughterfish infestation, so the other coastal areas around there might be similar. That, and of course there's always the standard "Kamikaze" trick wizards tend to pull off, such as when the Psyjic obliterated an invasion fleet from Pyondanea.

Reasonably, I'd expect that House Telvanni would survive, but would likely see their influence largely negated. The other Dunmer may even have disowned them, possibly blaming them for the invasion. This would leave them largely cut of from the world, given that they sit way out in the far corner of Tamriel.

This is sad news. Hopefully Fyr managed to survive the onslaught of red year.

It'd be shocking if he didn't. Given both his earlier decision to distance himself from house Telvanni, and his inclination to protect his daughters, his patients*, and his friend Mr. Bagarn, that he likely would've avoided putting his place in the line of fire. I had the impression that he expended a lot of magic fortifying his tower, which given it's location along Azura's coast, would've likely ensured it sustained at most minimal damage from Red Mountain's eruption. And, of course, I have the impression that after the eruption, the Argonians didn't really care for the island, and focused on the mainland; given that he also kept no slaves that I recall, he'd have escaped their notice. (and any incursion into his territory, given the apparent lack of reward, would've been dissuaded quickly)

On this forum, one of the devs wrote that Fyr did survive. Although I don't know if this is canon, that's good enough for me.

(Actually I wouldn't expect him to have survived, even with his tower and underground Corprusarium, but that's just my guess.)

If a dev says it in the Lore forums, ESPEICALLY if it's that Dev's character (I do reall Dyviath being VXSS's) then it's 100% canon. This Lore section exists for a reason: the devs are actually fans of the lore of their own series. ;)
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Post » Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:39 am

So...Telvanni is down too? Seriously? What's with this massive cluster [censored] of Morrowind?


No reason to believe that, when you go to the mages college there is another member of House Telvanni there who mentions she left Morrowind because of the presure and because she wants to study magic in peace. So House Telvanni is still alive. She made no mention of why she felt so pressured in Morrowind, but one might assume that if it was a fight for their lives she wouldn't have left. Though of course that is an assumption.


I would think that, though I would also remember that the Argonians hated the Telvanni the most of all the houses for their most-flagrant practice of slavery. That, and while not as magically inclined as the mer (or manmer) races, the Argonians were still relatively gifted in magic, so it's not like it was a bunch of luddites going against one of Tamriel's most-powerful groups of wizards. I'd rank the Telvanni third, behind the Altmer of Summerset Alinor, and the (not really organized) mages of the Illiac bay. As after all:
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Nulfaga, in spite of being "just a Breton," DID conjure a hurricane in the dead of winter on an hour's notice, after all

I don't think that they managed to capture ALL of Morrowind's mainland, but likely went quite deep into it, and probably focused a lot on the Telvanni Peninsula. (I never heard if there was another name for it, admittedly) I doubt they'd have actually taken the Telvanni Isles, though. While the Argonians COULD arguably swim, it's quite a distance, and the waters are dangerous even if you can't drown. I know the Sea of Ghosts was infamous for a really bad dreugh and slaughterfish infestation, so the other coastal areas around there might be similar. That, and of course there's always the standard "Kamikaze" trick wizards tend to pull off, such as when the Psyjic obliterated an invasion fleet from Pyondanea.


I'd think the Argonians would focus more on House Dres, the house that took most slaves and had the largest holdings of slaves and of course the largest slave markets. If anything deserved their revenge it would have been that house. House Telvanni was a largely isolated house filled with wizards, who practiced slavery, a lot, but not as much as Dres. Add to that, that they are a more powerful house that is further away, so it's unlikely the Argonians spend a lot of time trying to conquer the Telvanni when other greater prices were easier to take.


Reasonably, I'd expect that House Telvanni would survive, but would likely see their influence largely negated. The other Dunmer may even have disowned them, possibly blaming them for the invasion. This would leave them largely cut of from the world, given that they sit way out in the far corner of Tamriel.


I doubt the Dunmer would blame them for the invasion, they aren't stupid. If any House is to be blamed it's going to be House Dres, more likely however they will just blame the Argonians. House Telvanni could actually come out of this as the strongest house by far. House Hlaalu threw it's lot in with the Empire, with that falling and without Imperial help they will suffer. House Redoran was nearly entirely destroyed during the Oblivion crisis with the destruction of Ald'Ruhn and all and because they as the only house moved their most important settlements to Vvardenfell. House Dres would have been the first and primary target for the Argonians, and House Indoril was already weak during the blight and likely did not become much more powerful in the few years that were left before the Oblivion crisis and later on the Argonian invasion.

It'd be shocking if he didn't. Given both his earlier decision to distance himself from house Telvanni, and his inclination to protect his daughters, his patients*, and his friend Mr. Bagarn, that he likely would've avoided putting his place in the line of fire. I had the impression that he expended a lot of magic fortifying his tower, which given it's location along Azura's coast, would've likely ensured it sustained at most minimal damage from Red Mountain's eruption. And, of course, I have the impression that after the eruption, the Argonians didn't really care for the island, and focused on the mainland; given that he also kept no slaves that I recall, he'd have escaped their notice. (and any incursion into his territory, given the apparent lack of reward, would've been dissuaded quickly)


Also, he is supposedly one of the most powerful wizards in the world during the events of Morrowind, perhaps the most powerful if you don't count any Heart of Lorkhan dependants. Somebody with that kind of power, and the house that he has (considering how it's build) show be capable of at the very least getting out of the way of an invading force. So really we have nothing to worry about there.
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