So you may or may not have heard this thread before but i was just wondering... on Knights of the nine DLC for Oblivion there is a Nordic priest (if i remember rightly) named Esbern... now i think it is not likely that it is the same Esbern that will be appearing in Skyrim, for one, Oblivion Esbern is part of the Knights of the nine crusaders and our Skyrim Esbern used to be a Blade, PLUS i really doubt Nords can live for over 200 years, on the other note though, they are both Nords and Esbern is a very odd name to just be picking out at random for our Skyrim blades veteran... what do you guys think?

Well...Esbern IS Talos, and that prophet seemd to know quite alot about Akatosh and Talos, but especially Akatosh. Maybie...

He was a priest in Oblivion replacing Hil the Tall. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Esbern This is a really strange coincidence.

Nords don't live that long. I think there's no more significance between the two Esberns than there is between the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Redguard:Characters#Cyrus of TESA Redguard and the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Cyrus at Cloud Ruler Temple in Oblivion.


Wait, what? Esbern is Akatosh? Says who?

Also, the Prophet was Talos.

I think the answer is pretty clearly no.

Also, I don't recall it ever being said that Skyrim's Esbern was a Nord.

It was comfirmed that Alduin (the dragon) is the second side to Akatosh, and that like Sheogorath turns into Jiggalag, Akatosh turns into Esbern. http://www.giantbomb.com/esbern/94-17611/character_enemies/ Esbern is Talos.

God, not Akatosh, Talos, sorry, like the prophet. I WILL find the link. So, Esbern is Talos (Just a theory on a fan site) and Allduin is Akatosh. (Comfirmed by Bethesda)

...So...what? Esbern is who? I thought Esbern is the guy talking in the trailer and is the last member of the Blades or something to that effect? Where is it mentioned that Esbern is Talos or anything like that?

I know Alduin is Akatosh, but it's not like Sheo/Jyggalag. That relationship parallels Alduin/Lorkhan, but less of the sharing-one-body thing.

I don't know, on a fansite, I will find the link, right now, my brain hurts, im trying to play clue and chat on a forum and the same time and it isnt working

Well it'd make sense if Esbern was a nord. His name sounds Nord and he's a blade in Skyrim. But the Blades primarily worship Talos don't they? So how come the Esbern in Oblivion is a replacement for Hill the Tall who is a priest of Arkay? (Or Kynareth just in the wrong chapel) And about the connection with Esbern and the prophet, the prophet WAS Talos, yes? But then he dissapeared, and then Esbern started ranting about Talos and seems to know about all your holy exploits. So, is Esbern the prophet (I know they look nothing alike) and Talos?

~Mars of UESP forums

Bethesda re uses names from time to time. Arielle Jurard appears twice in Oblivion, once as a Breton Battlemage in a MG quest, and again as the Lich under Battlehorn Castle (who was also a breton battlemage). Toralf appeared first in Morrowind as a hired thug under Carnius Magnus to raid Raven Rock, and then again as a Knight of the Nine in Oblivion

Knowing this, I wouldn't take this too seriously guys

I doubt it since Nords were cursed with a shorter life span.

What if dragonborn are immortal and have to be physically killed in order to die?

Okay, the two Esberns are just a really big coincedince... Akatosh is Alduin just a different representation by the Nord religion, (this didn't need to be confirmed by Bethesda its Lore obvious) Esbern is just the last of the Blades who feels responisble to keep the prophecy of the Dragonborn alive... probably... i see no connection of Esbern and Talos, Tiber Septim became Talos when he died and i really doubt Esbern is a avatar of Talos, unless he is our guider and mentor throught the game who reveals himself to be Tiber Septim all along... which i really doubt.

I can agree with this...new pics of Skyrim in the Lost interest? Rekindle it! topic.

I am pretty sure in a world where millions of people life there might be one / or two or more with the seem forename, shouldn't suprise me that much since I know how many people have the seem forename as I have ...

I know two guys named Sam... Are they the same person?

Anyway, I thought the guy who sends you on the quest is always Talos, or inspired by Talos, in the TES games. After all, Talos is the God of the Empire.

Why can't they just have the same name, a lot of people in the real world do...? Oh, and Esbern is quite similiar to the Scandinavian names Esben and Espen.

I wouldn't want to start counting how many King Jan's this world did have ...

Its unlikely, but still would be a neat little twist if Esbern was the Esbern from Oblivion.
This is Tamriel after all, and most anything is possible.
A pact with a daedra or a witch. Timetravel. A curse.
It could be him and I kinda hope it is. But probably not.

You mean when Alduin ate the nords down to six years?

King Wulfharth broke that curse.

I don't think they are the same (but who really knows?)

To be honest, I don't think Esbern is a special woopty-doopty. I think he will serve kinda the same role as Jauffre *Hey, they are both Blades!*

think again...

quoted from UESP wiki's walkthrough for the misc. quest from bloodmoon, betrayal at brodir grove...



i only quoted the necessary part, otherwise it'd be a small wall of text... this nord is over 500 years old, either bethesda messed up with the lore here, or nords can live nearly as long as elves.

Wait, what? Akatosh is the bad guy now? :blink:

Yea...i did read somewhere in a Morrowind Book that Alduin = Akatosh.

Did they change the Lore on that?

If I remember correctly Ulfgar was cursed and became stone or something like that. And that's why he lived for so many years. His model did not show this for obvious reasons.