Esp's and memory utilization

Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:06 pm

Gday

Is it possible for a single esp to somehow become corrupt and start to utilize 3.87gb of memory ?

This install has been running flawless for a few months now. and just yesterday it froze on loading any saved games
I have not change anything on this install prior to the freeze (Be it Load order or mods or ini settings or game settings or PC settings) these have not been modified or changed prior to
After a bit of troubleshooting I have narrowed it down to 1 particular esp. If the esp is removed from the load order, memory utilization is back to normal on all previous saves. as soon as the offending esp is put back into the load order. The memory 3.87gb utilization is 100% producible
As a side note I am not running out of system memory as I have 12gb of memory

My next question is why have I not had problems with this esp prior to yesterday ?

Cheers
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Ysabelle
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:53 am

Memory leak, probably?

What single ESP are you talking about?
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Allison Sizemore
 
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:49 pm

What ESP is it? Does it use OBSE?

Basically, if the ESP file doesn't use OBSE, it probably can't balloon out to anything near that size. However, it may be possible for a mod that uses OBSE to do so. Maybe.
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Smokey
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:26 pm

The esp in question is MMM hunting and crafting esp

Just strange how one day it is good then the next its not
As for the memory leak, it takes about 3-5 seconds to reach 3.87gb
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Jarrett Willis
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:11 am

Actaully... hmm. Are you using the LAA patch? Otherwise Oblivion won't even use more than 2GB.

Honestly it doesn't seem to me like a mod could do something like that, unless it has a serious scripting error. Or is using a ton of new models and meshes, akin to a graphical upgrade.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:35 am

Yes i am using the LAA Patch, OSR. I have been using them from the start of this install (Approx 4 months).
Things is the install has been fine with the esp, Just things seem to change yesterday. I have not done any software updates or hardware changes.

I have a generated a new ini file with default settings, But it makes no difference

If I remove the esp and rebuild the bash patch. The game runs fine

If I then put the esp back and re build the bash patch. the memory utilization goes straight to 3.87gb. For some reason this install has decided to take a dislike to a certain esp.
Strange how all was working fine yesterday :shrug:

I have even loaded up a backup cloned game to test the memory utilization , (Which has the esp and same mods, LAA, etc) and it works perfectly

Cheers for the help
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Nathan Hunter
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:10 am

Oblivion is a strange beast, I one I don't think we'll ever fully understand :D.

Try not building the .esp into your bashed patch though, unless it needs to be.
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Annika Marziniak
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:41 am

I am just wondering with the correlation between the esp and saved records. There is Mismatched record in the save which maybe causing the memory issue.
From what records I have seen in Bash, there doesn't seem to be anything that sticks out

Has anyone had any experience with a saved game editor tool called Elder edit ?
it Looks only to be able too edit a few things in a save

Cheers
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Anna Kyselova
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:41 pm

WraithGTO - Are you using OBGE by chance?
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suzan
 
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:34 am

Far327 I am not using OBGE on this clone install

This install is basically a Full FCOM+Better Cities Blood and mud+ COBL+ Castle Wolfspike+ Map marker and EVE HGEC with High rez body textures

I did a bit more testing today, I loaded up an exact clone of the problem install, Copied the saved games to it and it ran like a charm every-time, No bad memory spikes with the esp loaded.
So I am assuming the saves are all ok

With the problem install , the only things that gets it up and running is removing that 1 esp

I think I have exhausted all avenues with that install. The following are not in order , But this is what I have tried to date
1.New Oblivion ini file generated (Default)
2. New Plugins Txt file generated
3. replaced the problem esp with one from a working install
4 Re did BSA redirection
5.Clean install Bash 294.2 , 4.0a Python and BOSS 1.8
6. Used clean saves, Made sure Dirty plugins are clean
7. Removed OSR and Fastexit 2, LAA patch
8. New install of OBSE 2.0
9. Played around with load order and moved the esp around and bash tags
10. New Bashed patch file and rebuilt it numerous times
11. Dropped video options to low
13. even went as far replacing the whole data file with a working one
14. Defragged drive with Piriforms defraggle. I Didn't need too but did it anyway
15. Disable Avast , Spybot , etc
16. Did a clean Boot
17. Turned off/on folder indexing on that drive.
19. Ran memtest for 12hrs, Super PI , Prime, Linx, HDD tests and all passed
I do try to do thorough testing and troubleshooting if its PC stability, That comes from my old Phase Change OC days. I can almost be 100% certain it is not a hardware problem

And still the almost instantaneous memory spike with that 1 esp
Remove that 1 esp and memory spike is gone and game runs flawless .
Strange that 1 install was working for 3-4 months without a issue, then the memory spikes started happening with just that 1 install .
Have the esp loaded on another exact clone and no memory spikes

Its ok as I have been able to continue playing on another install, so no worries about that part
I would though like to figure out whats up with that install and the esp, just for interest sake.

Cheers
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:19 am

The esp in question is MMM hunting and crafting esp

Just strange how one day it is good then the next its not
As for the memory leak, it takes about 3-5 seconds to reach 3.87gb


Hi,..just wondering....Do you Make a lot of Stuff? Could you Post a LO with Bash to have a look thru?

I have this in my install for 2 years and I make tons of stuff. I use the Arrows that are crafted. I have even sat back and made Clothes/armor just to sell..Lol. (Play a good guy that has clean record)

Wonder if just a combination of ESP's causes this. OR if having the Newest ESP's is a factor. my install of FCOM is 2 years old . I have not Updated it.

But at least you have proof of the LAA patch is working...:)
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