Man, I say that all the time.
And the rest I couldn't have said any better so, this. ^

@Devil


No wonder I got VAC banned on my CS account.

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I don't know if u read everything,at least i answered,my point is about what i can't,as a player,counterattack and that is spawncamping and i explain everything.

I'll agree that everything the Devs permitt is acceptable by all means,i agree 100,but i'm saying that spawncamping is something else the Devs don't consider that much and we make each game inbalanced with exploiting these holes.
I can even admit that dolphin and bunny hoping are skills even if i don't use them never and again by all means do them,they have counterattacks also,and again,i can't deal/find anything to counterattack spawncamping so i'm calling/praying for spawncampers to understand that.

There is nothing cheap about tactics. You play your way and I play mine and if mine is better you lose. I don't fight fair I fight to win.



Indeed, you will learn a lot more from a defeat than a victory.

Alright, I admit that spawn camping needs to go. I like the way it worked in Blacklight: Tango Down. There were powerful turrets inside of the little spawn point enclosure so any enemy that tried to catch people with their pants down got perforated profusely. Maybe they'll find a way to deal with it. Spawn camping doesn't look like it wil be an issue in Brink.

Funny since there are powerful invincible turrets guarding the spawns in Brink 2.

no BLTD was terrible at spawn camping or atleast the last time i played it. the other team had killed off most of my team then camped right in front of the spawn exits. we couldnt even leave the dang spawn areas cause the whole enemie teams sites were aimed at them.

i personally lik the sound of section 8 prejudice way of spawning. u drop from the sky to the battlefield.

Back when I still played, the only time you ever got spawn camped was when you team svcked so badly that they couldn't push their way out of their veritable fortress. Section 8 does have a pretty cool spawn though. I'm definitely going to download that game.

Well i know for certainty that WE,the players,exploit more than anything the spawncamping.I remember in so many Fantasy MMO's as we w8ed in other side of portals...easy kills means no skills though right?

So why we do it?It makes us badass?I doubt.

So as i said elsewere,it's up to the Devs to make the thinking part for us and in this game it seems they did and thank you guys in SD.

tru. yeah i jus jumped in a game and that was the situation i go stuck in. from what ive read brink atleast give the losing team a chance to catch back up. i personally cant stand when a team destroys another team, it gets boring (specially in bfbc2 rush).

and yeah ill dl section 8 but itll prob be after brinks out since im savin for brink.

I say win by whatever legitimate means necessary. I don't care about noob tubes or camping much since that seems more like individual play style. I just don't want enemies to exploit glitches all the time like "wall bouncing" in the awful multiplayer of Gears of War 2, or ganging up on one player repeatedly or shooting your team mates to death when FF is on to prevent them from reaching or acquiring something that you're after (something I see in BFBC2 when someone is running to a tank and another player wants it instead, etc.). Tea bagging is also low and I can't stand a person who yells into the microphone each and every time they get killed screaming "BS!!!".

There is honor among gamers...

The gamers who..

Cheat, hack, exploit, glitch, talk "trash", rage, camp, use cheap tactics, and are totally clueless when it comes to assisting other players, are not gamers.

They are young, immature children who's only joy in life comes from attempting to annoy and ruin gaming experiences for others. If you find yourself in a game with one of these children, may H0RSE have mercy on you, Mi amice.

A true Gamer is not defined by his or hers "KDR" or "OHK Sniper Montages", no, no, they are defined by how they interact with there allies, there comrades, and how they try to play the game to the best of there skills without resorting to cheap, useless, and pathetic exploits.

There is honor among gamers.. :spotted owl:

You guys take gaming way too serious! :tongue:

I am already the master.

i've my own code of honor thats simple and i think at least most people should follow when possible

#1 :never cheat other players

#2 mix it up a bit , Halo Reach, in the infection mode, people camped in the same spot 3/3 rounds every time they played that map, that's so boring.

#3 don't play online with less then 2 bars of network connection speed.

simple things i follow. (i don't like camping in most zombie modes with OHK zombies, like Combat Arms or Halo Reach cause it seems so old and pathetic, i know it's "pro" to camp out but it's so boring.

RANT TIME!!!! News flash ya'lls PEOPLE-ARE-DIFFERENT (typed as slow as possible on that one), We
are all....well most....are shelling out a sizable chunk of our hard earned dollars/euros/pounds/rupples/pesos/yin
and other currencies to buy Brink, A GAME, which is designed to ENTERTAIN us. I understand to a degree the
point people try to make about a code of honor. Now I don't glitch, I don't mod, I dont lag switch or turbo because
those are what I consider cheap tactics, taking advantage of, or exploiting, the hardware and software limitations
of a product to the detrament of others is cheap and uncalled for. But useing something THAT IS IN THE GAME
isn't being cheap or cowardly,it's being DIFFERENT!!!. The Weapons are there for a reason, to fill a role on a team
and to give people with different playstyles a way to find a place in the game. The weapons in Brink have been
balanced and tested ad nausium for months by people considerably more qualified than us. Maybe a player isn't
too good a shooting but wants to be a Medic, he(or she)'ll need to stick close to the action, which will make them
a target, give them a grenade launcher (aka noob tube) and they won't die automaticly, they wont be racking up
massive kill streaks (thanx to clever balancing by SD) but they'll be able to defend themselves while healing,
buffing and rezing, and over all aiding the team. Now say someone is a crack shot but they're situational awareness
ain't to good (they keep getting killed from the sides or behind), give them a Long Rifle and let them get an over view
of the battlefield and they can near-death any badys before they even get to you, also aiding the team. Finally,
on the subject of camping, people run straight down the middle of a firefight and complain when they get ventilated,
if you tryed to run and gun in real life you'd get 30 rounds heavier in seconds, IT'S BAD TACTICS YA'LL. Say it's
our job to gaurd an objective on the map should we all just run in circles while looking for enemys, NO!, we set
up shop in a deffensable position with our eyes on corridors and we wait for the attackers, in other words WE CAMP.
In conclusion why dont we just enjoy the game we paid for, if someone has a tactic that works a little too well for
them than just avoid them, don't make a big steam over it just move on to the next lobby (after the match, don't bail on your team).

*phew* think I gave maself a hernia :pinch:

Time for me to get hated upon, MWAHAHAHA :swear:

Nice wall of text, would be a easier to read rant if there was some space.

but you can just drop out and give your team a bot who'll be able to help your team more than you can, seeing how your dying all over from just one guy.

You actually make some really good points in that rant, although I agree with wraith - that wall of text is painful on the eyes

Can't call it a true "rant" if it makes a lick'a sense, then it'd just be a counter-argument :grad:

Oh yes, I have a very rigid moral code, and it definitely meshes with video games. My friends ridicule me for not doing certain things in Smash Bros. and Marvel vs. Capcom because I consider them "jerk maneuvers" whereas my friends see no problem.

If I do something in a game which makes me feel like a jerk afterward, I won't do it or anything like it again.

To me, it depends on what kind of game youre in.

If youre in a pub, or a for fun game, there is no reason to camp for the whole time killing anyone who wanders in.There is no reason to take the fun out of the game by using boring tactics. If you manage to do well with an annoying tactic, chances are you can win without it while allowing everyone to have fun. Or, if you are using annoying tactics because you cant win otherwise, then you should take the time to learn more useful skills.

On the other hand, in a competitive game, i see nothing wrong with playing to win. Competitive games are about tactics more than anything. When you have a pair of teams that have honed their aim nearly to the point of human limits, what really makes the difference is tactics. As long as its legit, take any advantage you can find.

um, shooting me is pretty jerkish dude.

Wasn't a rant and if u read all i wrote and i answered i agree with that,thus i won't spam/repeat but i'll say (as an overview) again that MY concern/problem is mainly with things ingame that (in my humble opinion) were not carefully design,like spawning system,wich for me if someone's camp your spawning place u just can't,by any means,counterattack that.All else is fair since it's in the game.

A point on gaming ethics, I always found that when playing splitscreen off-line (aside from the occasional screen staring) there was generally a very strong ethical code. If you saw a guy spawn in front of you you bolted and they let you, if you didn't spawn with a weapon (or a strong weapon in certain games) we waited for you to get one before engaging you in combat, maps were smaller so camping was accepted (including weapon/armor camping).

On-line has changed a lot of that, in part because people are faceless and many don't care what they do to faceless people, but also because everything has sort of changed over the years. A lot of players would rather have the game changed to fit them than have to learn how to change to fit the game and that seems to happen a lot.

Who is that?