Ethics in Games : Othor Games

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:50 pm

The number one thing i did on mw2 was lose. not because me and my clan was bad. but yet because we had fun. i remember multiple times that we all got riot shields and walked as a group. or one time we just teabaged in the corner while they kill us. mostly in search and destroy. anyway my clan knew we could win but that would take the fun out of it. and people that just kill because they can do it because they have the power to. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."

There is a time for fun and a time to win. I usually prefer winning.

Alls fair in love and war

and on a side note I always feel like its fun to try to out smart people tactics that i don't agree with..like in COD4 one of my favorite past times was killing those guys who try to wall glitch in Ambush

Smart people don't glitch only losers.

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:20 pm

Mine is, dont flame, dont cheat and dont shoot already dead bodies.

I shoot dead bodies when I'm bored...

But yeah, Ethics in games do exist, but expecting the majority of players to respect them is a pipe dream.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:32 am

Yeah that was a bad example. What I meant was there is always going to be some cheap or dirty tactic and you got to adjust and for me thats fun. I just hope brink has a good community becasue the ps3 COD4 community was really great and helped make that one of my favorite games.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:12 am

Brink edition headsets anyone?

Hell yes, have the mike coming out the left, BRINK across the top, and faction emblem on the right.

Black 'n' chrome pair for Security.

Scratched-up red pair for Resistance.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:50 am

Hell yes, have the mike coming out the left, BRINK across the top, and faction emblem on the right.

Black 'n' chrome pair for Security.

Scratched-up red pair for Resistance.

I would buy that headset so hard.

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:36 pm

but expecting the majority of players to respect them is a pipe dream.

To die,to sleep – to sleep,perchance to dream – ay,there’s the rub.
For in that sleep what dreams may come.
~William Shakespeare~

;)

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:37 pm

I am dreaming my friends,i live in my own dreamy world of hopes and illusions,expecting humans to think ... humanly...ish...

Illusion is the first of all pleasures.
~Voltaire~

So i think i have answered to everything for this topic,if someone reads all 5 pages he'll understand my view about it.
In any terms this is most positive in my opinion about Brink either way.

A discussion is always a positive thing."I do not agree with what you have to say,but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
~Voltaire~

This is another illusion of course

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:03 pm

wasn't that quote about defending somone's right to their speech by Ben Franklin? just wondering

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:21 pm

wasn't that quote about defending somone's right to their speech by Ben Franklin? just wondering

Hm,perhaps,there are cases that i see same quotes from different people. :whistling:

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:26 pm

yeah not trying to be a know it all cause i am definatly not lol but just a thought not a question on your intelligence

btw love the quotes

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:35 am

yeah not trying to be a know it all cause i am definatly not lol but just a thought not a question on your intelligence

btw love the quotes

Yeah,i love them too,in a very few words they hold a meaning that otherwise could be said in a whole book,but i use quotes of other people so it don't show my intelligent

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:07 am

man i don't have such nice conversations on forums like these ones on brink! its been nice chatting have a good night eresis

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:33 am

man i don't have such nice conversations on forums like these ones on brink! its been nice chatting have a good night eresis

Same here,thats why i thank everyone in these forum.Thanks again guys!

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:55 pm

Code of Honor in games? Yes, I live by it.

I always try to play a game in such way where it is the most enjoyable and fun (and fair) for the most people. I won't spawn camp, or use game exploits or grief or teabag. When playing attack and defend games, I like having the action focused on the objective, and not at the enemy players spawn. It makes for a more exciting game and pisses a lot less people off. I also tend to switch teams if the one I'm on is dominating or has more people.

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:59 pm

It all comes down to maturity level.

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:18 pm

First game I thought of when i read the OP? L4D. I dunno if it's just me but it seems like about 9/10 times that I play that game online the opponents are spawning in way to quick or doing way too much damage (hacks?) and it's bs. What's the point of cheap tactics like that? Especially on a game like L4D with no real leader boards, or benefits to being better.

I digress, I happen to be one of the players that follows an online honor code (don't t-bag, rage quit, camp, etc.)

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:16 pm

What's the point of cheap tactics like that? Especially on a game like L4D with no real leader boards, or benefits to being better.

I would say what's the point of beign "better" by cheating or deploying false tactics in a video game.
It's really a state of surrealism for the cheater i believe..a false state of surrealism.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:27 am

Spawn camping might be hard to do in Brink. As far as I'm concerned, spawn camping is really the only 100% cheater strategy. The wave spawns might make that a little more difficult. "Ha, I'm going to take out the next guy that spawns he—Oh god theres 5 of them!!"

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:57 pm

As long as you aren't spawn-camping, glitching, exploiting a bug or cheating I think everything is fair game.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:15 am

no BLTD was terrible at spawn camping or atleast the last time i played it. the other team had killed off most of my team then camped right in front of the spawn exits. we couldnt even leave the dang spawn areas cause the whole enemie teams sites were aimed at them.

i personally lik the sound of section 8 prejudice way of spawning. u drop from the sky to the battlefield.

We need more games with original respawns like that. Shattered Horizon had you jetpacking into the battlefield.

A point on gaming ethics, I always found that when playing splitscreen off-line (aside from the occasional screen staring) there was generally a very strong ethical code. If you saw a guy spawn in front of you you bolted and they let you, if you didn't spawn with a weapon (or a strong weapon in certain games) we waited for you to get one before engaging you in combat, maps were smaller so camping was accepted (including weapon/armor camping).

On-line has changed a lot of that, in part because people are faceless and many don't care what they do to faceless people, but also because everything has sort of changed over the years. A lot of players would rather have the game changed to fit them than have to learn how to change to fit the game and that seems to happen a lot.

I remember 4-player split screen on Delta Force: Black Hawk Down a few years back. We made an entire section off limits so players could go to the weapons room and resupply.

More recently, at a LAN party some of my friends decided to have a sniper duel in Urban Terror, no armour and no automatic weapons.

My code of honour:

1. No glitch exploits.
2. No hacking, even if I could.
3. Noobish weapons are only permitted if everyone else is using them.
4. No teabagging unless the recipient is in the same room as you.
5. No insulting other players over the mic or text chat, unless it's "friendly" or 1v1.

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:11 am

Personal Code
- Never use OPed weapons, UNLESS picked off the ground for "Look at what you made me do >:E " kinda kills
- Play to win (Sorry, If you can't do anything and literally get beat back to your spawn, I'm gonna make you stay there[I.E. Spawn Camping])
- Never hack or Cheat
- Be Nice, unless provoked otherwise

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:37 pm

People justify their loses by talking of ethics and honor.

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:57 pm

People justify their loses by talking of ethics and honor.

You guys write 5 words,without explaining anything further..Why so absolute with your views?Can't discuss?

I am talking on ethics since i have them,i don't seperate them cause this is a virtual world.I remain with the same sense of honor when playing.
Further more i keep my logic straight,understaning the difference that these are GAMES,thus not to be taken seriously.So for me yes,it's not important (the opposite of important) to be first.

So i don't justify anything,i try to enjoy games,not to win by any means.Anyways i doubt u read the whole thread so..

You know what they say?Half-learning is worst than ignorance.

» Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:00 pm

Yes, common courtesy and human decency are only for the weak. Skilled, strong, manly men do whatever they want, to whomever they want, at all times. :shifty:

/sarcasm

I refuse to use cheap or unsportsmanlike tactics, and yet I do quite well. It's not only losers who try to be nice guys. A lot of the most skilled players I know of are really cool dudes who don't camp, use broken guns or setups, etc. But at the same time they mop the floor with the other team, legitimate style!

» Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:18 am

By some gamers, there is understood to be some code of honor. They try to help the team win, and respect their opponents

But the majority rage, teabag, camp, use cheap tactics, grief, brag, and scream obscenities into the headphone.

There is a code; however, very few abide by it.

I agree little 12 yearolds screaming "GET [censored]" through the mic and then raging is very annyoing i find that more on the consoles then the PC but sence i play PC im fine