Greed is a bottomless pit which exhausts the person in an endless effort
to satisfy the need without ever reaching satisfaction.
~Erich Fromm~

I start with this because to understand we must dig deep into human psychology.You can also say "why the ****
should i care for a topic about games and psychology",no argue there my friends.

Well how is this quote relative?
"One more kill,one more kill,one more,awesome killstreak i have,i can spawn camp
and have eeeeasy kills and then brag..",the "bragging rights" thats why.

Now comes the part "which exhausts the person in an endless effort",here should common sense interfere
but we are not caple of understanding this.Example,u remember the movie "Pirates of the Caribbean"
where the cursed pirates couldn't satisfy their hunger?It's us,see the movie again and put yourselves in their place..

There should be ethical boundaries and unwritten codes of honor when playing a game as there should be in real life.
Cause it's something we share,real life and games both.

So games,i/we bought it,i/we have a right to enjoy it.
So every game have the rules it's Dev team apllies to it.
Still,these rules can be bend if we want to play "dirty".Why should we play dirty though?
The answer is on top,no?

So by playing in false terms,you cut the enjoyment from another player and i know most don't care about it since i see it
constantly in every Online game unfortunately.

In the end this is why we have laws in real life...we don't know what is good for our society?You think
an outlaw decide to go out of law by choice,or because the system created by some,give him few choices?
Well to be honest here i am a "conspiracy theory guy" cause i believe that justige is where the money goes but thats another topic.

Anyways,i shouldn't go deeper,all i want to say is plaese let me play.
A plea to gamers.You have "bragging rights" i have "playing rights",we're equal.

You don't have honor codes etc?fine,let me know to avoid you then,tell me wich servers you prefer to avoid etc ok?

I understand how u see things,i wish u'll understand how i see things too and find a common ground,avoid eachother that is yes?

I love teamwork,i'll do my best not to insult by saying or by the way i play the other players,u don't care?no problem,
just let me know.I know u don't care to let me know either but we should find a way to work this out,if
not for reason then for Einstein(?)...:

“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.”

Thank you.

(Your thoughts would be appriciated.Flaming works too,go mental,it's so common nowadays.
Not a solution but whatever works yes?)

This is what i posted in another game forum and i'd like to see if u have an opinion in this.
Thanks.

By some gamers, there is understood to be some code of honor. They try to help the team win, and respect their opponents

But the majority rage, teabag, camp, use cheap tactics, grief, brag, and scream obscenities into the headphone.

There is a code; however, very few abide by it.

Not many people have a "Code of Honor" if you will when it comes to games. I do up till the point where someone uses cheap moves (Camping, nube tube, etc. I will not include the nube tube as a reason to be cheap in Brink because it won't be a OHK) and then I return the favor. But if they play fair, I will play fair and we can all have fun.

A lot of games either A: reward bad sportsmanship disproportionately to its value, or B: fail to reward good sportsmanship adequately.

When this happens, the game encourages poor sportmanship, and it's up to the players to develop and maintain their own sense of ethics.

If a game is well-balanced, and provides a well-balanced risk/reward system, then the need for this is diminished greatly.

In Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood, I'm yet to see ANY tactic which I don't have some way to counter, except when that tactic is applied by a more skilled player. I'm anticipating, from what I'm seeing, hearing and reading about Brink, that the game will be well-balanced, and will provide a better-than-average reward for team players.

I don't know if there's a general code of ethics among gamers, but I do play by my own code of honor, if that counts. It comes down to people as individuals though. Griefers gonna grief, cheapos gonna be cheap, ragers gonna rage, and nice guys gonna be chill and have a good time. :disguise:

Although I will admit to raging at times. When you're one of the "chillers" and you're constantly up against the teeming hordes of all those other types, it can be frustrating at times.

A lot of gamers have a code of honor, the issue is nobody ever wants to agree on what's "cheap, dirty, unfair" so while there are a plentiful amount of gamers that clearly are out for #1 there are others that could be deemed on one side or the other.

I don't taunt, I don't cheat, I play for the team. You'll find me on one side of all the black and white decisions that can be made, but that gray area is subjective.

What's cheap, dirty, cheating, unfair, etc?

I'm kind of a griefer.......ask Wraith about me and smoke bombs on Assassins Creed and he'll say "They don't work on him"

I swear to god it seems like it. Let's get on in a bit and see if the smoke bombs still aren't working, and I am in a good mood.

Ok,firstly i posted this,same time in both forums...this is a game not yet released,the other one released almost a month ago (if i remember right),so the other forum should be more energetic.No replies there though.
That shows that this game sets new standard to FPS forums also.

I'd love to answer seperatly to eachother but i'll do it in general,seems more convinient.

The reason for this,is spawn camping primary,cause i think it's the only thing i can't counterattack u know?
Snipers have their nemesis,u'll see the flash u'll sneak or something else.
Just a camper?Easy,camping in FPS is the worst,u must sit for a while and move,if u sit and move is tactic anyhow.
Tube?It's in tha game,i don't mind that much really.Not my playstyle but i really don't mind anymore.You can't use tube 27/7 anyways.

Enjoyment is to grab anything the game offers and suits you no?So just one class is so one/dimensional that it seems boring rather enjoyment to me.
I also don't like airstrikes but they can be handled too and the game offers them.As Brink Devs said "they don't show any kind of skill" but what can u do?

So spawn camping is an easy/dirty way of gaining xp,btw i don't mind about the bragging either,why should i?It's just a game,if he does it fair i'll praise him too u know?

P.S.: @zombiespy Are u Greek?

You're also a sound-*****. Yeah, I remember that thread. *wags finger*

Then again, I'd be one too if I could afford a better TV and some nice headphones. Put me on even footing with everyone else who has them anyway.

I avoid noob weapons (Needler, Rockets, Sword, etc) in Halo, I'd rather kill you the honest way, with a bunch of bullets and maybe a punch or two.

I will use the Noob Combo or the Noob Punch in Elite Slayer, but I never vote for that gametype, and if the majority of the players are nubcakes who want to [censored] the Invis-Needler, they got it comin'.

Usually, I don't initiate tea-bagging, but I will reciprocate if I get 'bagged. I will teabag a player who is really fail after killing him the fourth or fifth time in a row, just for lulz, but most times I just run to the next fight. If the battle was close and I won, I might, but I won't whine if he revenge-'bags me if he wins the next fight.

I very very very extremely rarely use Armor Lock and only in the most dire of circumstances (the original Elite Slayer). Sure sign of noobtacularness right there. Invis is also less than skillful in my humble opinion. If it was me, I would make all the loadouts movement or deception-based, no Armor Lock. Also, the Needler needs to die. Seriously the least skillful weapon in the game.

I also don't camp. I did once to get my one Perfection a la Jun on Hemmorhage, but that's about it. I love Sprinting into the thick of battle with my AR roaring away in Multiteam on Countdown.

I get pissed off as all hell if the other team stoops to noob tactics. Just play as it was meant to be played and we're all good! Seriously! It's no fun for others when you stoop, we've all been on the receiving end of it. That's why I'm pumped for Brink, and why I am pleased that Splash Damage worked hard to eliminate the rewards for dikeish behaivor in their game.

Yes,sometimes in ACB i thought i threw that smoke bomb before he came too me and i get a little mad but then i think maybe is the high ping i have or just lag,we must get a hold of ourselves i know

Every game has it's issues no doubt,we should just inform through forums the Devs about them.

I just care for the issues ingame that i can't by any means to counterattack,thats all.
If i can't why the reason playing this game u know?

I can stab you tomorrow but not tonight. I'm "studying" for a test tomorrow.


Spectrum 5XB's are awsome man. I can tell if your above me, below me, and the correct direction with them. I use them even in ACB to hear people running around rooftops. :spotted owl:
EDIT: also, my 42 inch LCD helps too

Technology is a *****. I actually became much more comfortable as a sniper because my eyesight isn't so good and when I started playing games on-line (CS) I only had a 13 inch monitor. Scopes were a must if I wanted to see a thing I was shooting at.

Expensive; $90 at the http://steelseries.com/products/consoles/steelseries-spectrum-5xb (is that who it is?)

I do need to get some gaming headphones too. Was/am considering the Turtle Beach X11's but Devil raged with his Devil Rage power on that. I'm ppen to suggestions...?

Ditto. I need some new ones for Brink.

Heres some good advice on good headsets for you guys:
1. Don't buy Triton. They break easily.
2. Don't buy wireless because they are super expensive and the connection gets faulty a lot (my friend has wireless and hates it.)
3. Steelseries and Turtle Beaches are they way to go.

OP

I won't cheat, glitch, or hack in any multiplayer mode.

These are brands right?I love the closed type headphones.

Being a demi god is a form of cheating.


Yes they're brands. Like steelseires spectrum 5xbs (what I use) and Turtle beach x11's are the actual headsets. But those are the two best brands.

But people will call your tactics cheap.

Not because they are, but because you're better at doing it than they are.

I've said it before, and I'll say it many times in the future...

"You're right. Skilled players are overpowered. They should totally remove them from the game. :biggrin:"

Brink edition headsets anyone?

lol
Well i'm old enough to know the difference between cheaters and skillfull and i know there are skillful players and i really don't mind at all.

Espacially ancient Greek Generals knew best that a defeat is a lesson to make u better,not to go away and forget it.As a lesson is that "maybe u can win a battle with numbers but war are won with tactics".

Not just Brink edition... Brink Resistance Edition

I guess there really isn't much of a code of honor. All's fair pretty much. In objective matches, camping is perfectly acceptable. There is no such thing as a "new player" weapon, since there are good weapons and there are bad weapons. Just because you get killed by something, doesn't make it unfair. I've found that oftentimes, you never really stop and think about all the times that someone has failed miserably with something. You get pissed off when someone 1 shots you from a mile away, but do you ever think about all the times that that 1 shot doesn't kill and the target gets away scot free after taking a .50 BMG to the back? You get pissed off when someone smacks you with a Gravity Hammer, but how many times has that person tried to chase someone down only to have them backpedal at unrealistic superspeed and gun them down? I guess you just have to learn how to deal with something instead of complaining about it. Rather than whine about the ACR, pick up an M4 and show them how it's done. Ahhhhh!!!! It keeps changing n-0-0-b to "new player"!!!!