No Everscamps : IV

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:04 pm

There are no scamps following Rosentia or me when we have the Staff of Everscamp. Anyone else had this issue?

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I don't know what could be causing it. Maybe DLL?

Edit: Set up DLL to ignore "everscamp." No success. So maybe it's not DLL.

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:25 pm

Yes I did, I just assumed they were invisible.
As far as I can tell it made no difference to the outcome of the quest...

...and this was WAY pre-DLL on my install.

» Tue May 08, 2012 11:08 pm

The UOP maybe? Just guessing, I've never had this issue.
Everscamps are considered daedra, so if you have anything that affects daedra that's a place to start.
You could always load all your mods up into TES4Edit (you can bypass the UL's, it's most likely not them) and look to see what is affecting MS43StaffScamp creature.

» Wed May 09, 2012 2:28 am

I checked it out on TES4Edit. None of my mods change the everscamps, or the quest, and the only changes to Rosentia's home were edits to a couple doors. Hmmm maybe this is a rare vanilla bug. Although that doesn't explain why they aren't there. In the CS, they're hand-placed in her house :blink:

I have my own "tweaks" esp for situations like this. Luckily one of the scamps is a named persistent reference so I was able to make a console quest to move it to the Player. So I can at least do the quest with one of them, if not all four.