What's classified as deep strategic map layout is opinion, and always will be. You can't change that fact no matter what you say.

Except that almost every review complains about the map designs. A review is usually written by someone who stands for more people. Someone who has spend time with the game. And you don't need to play the game a week long to come to the conclusion that the maps are way to simple. Should one review state this then I would have not paid attention to it. But since many do write about this 'flaw' I do have this feeling that they might be right.

It's still opinion. I'm sorry that you think something's fact, when it's not.

On both the Machinima and GameTrailer review for Brink, they both agreed that the map design for Brink was amazing. In the hour that I played last night, I do have to say that the AIs are pretty stupid, but come on, what do you expect?

No balance issues for me yet. Regardless of all its "obvious flaws" I'm going to keep playing because it interests me.

Correct.

Guys - Take a chill pill and breathe, re-read what hes written, and come to a conclusion....is he a troll? no.

Is he talking smack? No.....

Is he flaming or in anyway trying to provoke the community or antagonize us in anyway to make us think he works for IGN and wants his say in? no....

I know this community inside out and i know your all more better than this.

I think whats happening is a clear cut case of "Denial" - Something hard to believe, someone who cant fathom the truth.

Your all in denial to accept the fact that, lets face it - Brink has issues....There not good, but there not devastating either.

Trust me guys i know how it feels to have something you loathe - tore away from you by negativity that you feel it doesn't deserve, it makes you die a little inside.

But what he is saying, is true lol. Simple as.

All these reviews all have "some" things in common - going on the AI is terrible - The AI in this game was boasted to be so smart, you couldnt tell if there human...What they failed to mention is that the "human" they had in mind, sits in the corner of a white room svcking on thread from his sleeves.

They svck - Ive saw the vids... But that aside - fine.

The maps - They almost "Could" be bigger, more choke points, more flexibility and freedom to wander around.

SMART system - Its amazing, something new, all reviewers says the same, problem is - the maps are so close quartered, SMART isnt as affective as it should be, i can almost see SMART system not being used as much as it should be - other than sliding and the odd vault.

Co-op/single player..... The campaign apparently svcks...too a feeling that you almost feel "incomplete" by the time you get to the end, pondering that feeling off "What else?". Fine.

Lag - No point going into details.

My point is - This game was pushed up a week deliberately to get it out to the public quickly - wouldn't that imply that they were really under the impression "our work is done"...

Are they seing and playing the same game as us? With all these problems faults, and couldn't foresee this?...again - rushed out too quick.

The game needs optimized - stability must be restored, and i still think there should be a "better & easier" mechanic towards co-op / user friendly.

This game WILL need DLC to continue its saga as it does some what seem to lack.

But you know what - Ive done something half of you cant come to grasp...i admitted to myself that the game ive over hyped, longed and dreamed about since 2009 - Is not what ive expected it to be.

But you know what....I dont care.- and neither should any of you.

This game was made by a company who based there morales around "Multi-player" - Which almost NOONE seems to have done yet, all biased reviews are coming directly from an un-patched single player version of the game.

Give it 4 weeks - let it release, iron out problems, and i can see us having one of the best [censored] multi player fast action packed adrenalin experiences ever.

Im so sorry for ranting all of this, and Thank you for ever taking the time to read it - But it still comes down to facts.

And the OP is in no way wrong.

That doesnt mean this game will fail - It just simply needs what people dont have....patience.

I don't know about the game yet, but i give 2/10 to the community of Brink.

I think the biggest issue so far is lack of a lobby system. For a game that focuses so much on team play it's sure hard to play with a team you want to play with (friends).

You are like a Brink Ghandi.
But seriously ^^THIS^^
This is an awesome community and now we sound like a bunch of flamers and trolls because we're defensive.

So far no review is to be trusted. Until I see Gameinformers review this all means nothing. :3

killzone 2 and 3 have this...(designated spawn points) as for operations(game mode) the attacking team rarely will win but everybody has fun and at the end of the day isnt that all that matters? anyway my gamestop is now open and i will have a ride in a few mins after that i will make an honest review from a boy without a fan...err...notafanboy(except bethesda dey pwn allz) anyhow i dont look at reviews from websites instead i play a demo and learn about it to see if i would like it and it seems like id love this.

Imma buy it no matter what.

That said, I have read enough about the reviews to know something is a little fishy. Maybe the review copies reviewers recieved were bad builds. Maybe some reviewers didn't play for more than an hour or two. I don't know. But I do know that I have played games that I loved, which have gotten bad reviews.

Besides, reviewers are just people, not infallible gods of digital entertainment. When the 13th comes around, I'm sure I'll be satisfied and have fun with the game.

God bless you sir. AMEN!

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finally some backup






Never gave a review
I based my worries on the issues most of the reviewers have in common.
I only wanted to make clear that most of these review rage threads are unfair.


Ps: YOU make yourself look like a complete moron

gameinformer depends on the writer as there are some fair ones and some horrible ones.

As a psychologist, I must say that I find this thread incredibly interesting. Perfect example of the social comparison theory. (and that's not a good thing)

Even so - I think alot of people are keeping there hopes up too much on "there" good sources to pull of good reviews.

My question to you is - If that "special source" that your waiting on reviews the game, and agrees with most the others - that its a flop, bad, could and should have been more....Will you care?

Will you then say "WAIT! Gamestop or whatever has says the game svcks, omg it does!"

Or will your attitude still be the same as it is now...."Ill wait and see".

Stop reading so much into this guys - Time will tell.

Giving sound anything under 8.0 is unfair, because it appears to be easily on par with Bad Company 2.


Reviewers have a responasbility. And the main part of that is not to be biased.

Since CoD, it's really hard to trust any reviewer.

Just to make this clear peeps

I won't say I was actively searching for Brink details, visited this part of the bethesda forum before brink's release and Brink almost never really crossed my mind.

I knew it existed, I had high expectations, watched some gameplay, watched some interviews and in the end I read the reviews. I am also disappointed at the way it turned out. Maybe less disappointed then most of you but still. After I read the reviews I did not hate Brink or anything. I just visited the forum to read how this community reacted to the many reviews. All I actually read was much hate and as Sadiro said: Denial

Although I did not want write that word down because I think I would have been burried beneath an avalanche of negative feedback.

I will buy this game if the majority of the issues that I find game breaking will be fixed. Or atleast to some degree.

Thank you for reading and understanding.

If you don't understand...Then go [censored]!

Im not going form a final opinion on brink til I play the game, but since gameinformers is the only site I know of who is actually waiting to play the game as intended. I'm going to get a much better idea of how it plays from them opposed to those who reviewed the incomplete version :3

Incomplete as in without patch and not trying out multiplayer (Im looking at you IGN :verymad: )

This game will be a win for me if i want to play it over bc2 and halo. If not ill just return it. That being said, i doubt ill be able to hold off on purchasing another game before bf3, this one may not last. I hope everyone is wrong and even with bf3 out i still pick this up but i sorta doubt it. At this point idk if ill even wanna play it over bc2

Someone already mentioned Shadowrun, and its a great example.People thought running an elf with a katana was OP for a while.Eventually it got really hard to sneak up on people, and thus, the games inner balance shined through.(It just required the player to pay more attention)

Lets play for a week and then come back to this discussion, with some educated opinions and experience.I foresee complaints over the light build just sidestepping bullets, and spamming slide knockdowns.

While Shadowrun is indeed an apt example, elf with katanas were hardly overpowered. I suspect Brink will be the same, it's something new and different, people need to adjust, when you finally master the game it becomes so much more fun.

One complaint I'm am scared about though, is about the maps. SMART is great and all, but if the maps don't allow proper use of it, there's little point in having it.

Exactly, it was only OP until you learned what to do about it...panicking was not the answer, nor hasty conclusions.We have the benefit of this forum to figure it all out over the next few weeks.

Shadowrun is the best example of what will happen to Brink. The reviewers simply did not 'understand' Shadowrun at first and the reviews are all based on very limited experience with the game (they wasted no time in comparing it to Counter-Strike though). It took weeks of playing to learn how to play Shadowrun properly, not because of the races, skills or weapons but because the players continued to develop. It wasn't until a few weeks after release that any concept of balance was found for Shadowrun. Even then only a couple minor tweaks were needed.

Brink will follow a similar route as the maps have their own learning curves. The classes, weapons and skills will take some time to learn as many of the reviewers did not even remember which class they were playing (despite there being an icon on their HUD). The maps have flanking routes that seem to be neglected as the reviewers experience with them was limited and they simply ran straight to the same choke point, expecting different results (insanity much?). Brink is not a game where you can simply transfer your years of CoD experience and expect everything to be the same. It takes hours of playing to 'learn' how to do things the Brink way and a reviewer that spent ~10 hours with the game has very limited perspective to base their opinion upon. Heck, some of the reviewers spent much less time with the game and almost none of them played the game online for very long.

I'm not saying that Brink is the end-all FPS. I am saying that the reviews seem lacking in their experience with the game.

Consider the source.... hmmm, invalid. Nuff said.