Bubba you may think your giving a rationl review but you chose the absolute WORST place to put it,
we've been drooling over this game for 1+ years now, WE ARE [censored]/GIRLS, your review may have
have been concise and well thought out but it was to the detriment of a game that has consumed the thoughts
and dreams of many of us for a hella long time, and as a nerd rageing really devoted fan the only thing I have to say to
someone who even utters a negative thing about god.....uh I mean Brink is ST-FU & GTFO Fail Troll!!
:swear: :swear: :swear: :swear: :swear:


LMAO!!! "S+T+F+U" is now edited into "please continue, good sir." :rofl:

The simple truth is there is no smoke without fire. The negative comments that have come out of the reviews seem to agree on certain flaws in Brinks design. You may love Brink, that's great, but don't bury your head in the sand and pretend it's perfect. Accept that it has flaws and that for some people those flaws are serious hurdles to enjoying the game. Now a lot of these issues will get patched, some such as the AI may be beyond salvage at this stage but reviewers can only go on what they have in front of them right now. And if they delay their review until they've got some time in with the game online their readers, who want to know if they should pick it up or not will look elsewhere for their reviews. A game so heavily reliant on MP is always going to struggle under these circumstances so it's down to the community to provide that feedback for others, and part of that responsibility is being open and honest about both the good points and the flaws that are present in the game.

''Never gave a review
I based my worries on the issues most of the reviewers have in common.
I only wanted to make clear that most of these review rage threads are unfair.''

Quoted for truth.I remember trying to get my friends into it by showing them my gameplay.They couldnt understand what they were seeing because it was so new to them.I still have hope that Brink will be a solid game.Shadowrun died too quickly in my opinion, but Brink looks more "pleb" friendly so hopefully I can get the lads off blops and into this.The reviews are not helping but its the players opinion that really counts.

You haven't actually played game! So your not going to play the game because someone told you not to? And your only going to play the game when somebody tells you its okay? Here is an idea, rent it first? Or go down to your local videogame retailer and try to start conversations in real life, and determine if actual players feel the same. I'm getting my copy today, and I'm psyching myself up by watching actual gameplay stream, instead of depressing myself with bias reviews.

I agree. You have been raged against and you never suddenly vanished but stuck to your guns. Nice on you bud, even though I have no clue if I disagree with you yet or not.

No one told me not to play brink. I just read what issues many reviewers had with this game. I decided that this high level of reviewers adressing the same problems in brinks design is reason enough for me to wait and be patient.

Fail rage all you want against me koreshonfire. Atleast try to make you're rage funny and not laughable.

Bubba a review doesn't just mean sticking a number to it, the word is broken down into
"RE" (to do again) and "VIEW" (to look), so review literally means "to look at again"
which is exactly what you did when you offered that summary, a review is by definition
an oppinion, unfortunately, nobody cares about your oppinion, :whistling:

Yet you try to convince me that I am wrong.
Yet you post in this thread that I am wrong
Yet you say you don't care about my opinion
Yet you haven't said anything that would even slightly resemble an argument
And apperently you say that no one cares? That this forum is somekind of hive mind where you are the queen of?

Now re-read everything in this thread, acknowledge you're stupidity and move on.

Or cry

Time to calm now...bubba.

Ive defended the OP for a reason and most here know that im not your typical flame fighter.

The OP was within his right to worry - If you go back a few pages and re read "everyones" posts - including mine, theres lots of valid reasons as to why there should be worry.

I cant be bothered re writing out another speach as i think i cleared enough air with the one a page backwards.

Stop attacking the OP - He means no harms to any of US in the community, remember you dont speak for all of us.

Im worried too about brink - Until i started watching this http://www.justin.tv/brandon505?show_facebook_status=true#/w/1186289152/6

Its a stream, Go watch this guy play - Enjoy! take part in the drama conversation going on in there too.

I think you will find this video has and will change the minds of many doubted brink followers.

I don't get why people make such a huff about the A.I for this game.
If you haven't noticed it, this is predominantly a team based mp versus game. The way it is setup, the fact that people will always play smarter/better/more creatively than an A.I supports this opinion. Why? - Because it is team based, relying on a team of A.I is like playing football (soccer for you americans) with present day robots: Yes they can probably be made to kick the ball, no they cannot play like a real human being.

The graphics, as in every single damn game out there, is a matter of opinion. ESPECIALLY when stylized like this, the same goes for sound. Either you like the sound or you do not, either you like the stylized graphics, or you do not. If you absolutely hate the graphics and the sound, then you should never review the game or even pick it up to play it. Just leave it be and move on to a game where you LIKE the graphics and the sound.

The low resolution textures is usually such a lame argument on down grading a game. Crysis 2 received alot of flame from the community based on this, but seriously, think about it, the game (I imagine Brink does too) looks great when your in the action, why the f*** would you even stop up, go over to the wastebag and say "oh my, that wastebag looks pixelated when I am up close like this, thats bad graphics!". Such a facepalm seriously.

Anyway, the only review I will ever hold in a proper regard, because they are at least as close to my opinion as possible, is gameplay (a danish magazine). That said, I will preorder this game tomorrow or thursday, still gotta choose between which pre order pack I wanna get lol! I can't wait for friday, very jealous at all you americans! *shakes fist*

Just so you know Whisper, if you Pre order from Game.co.uk, you can get the Doom pack AND the Spec Ops Pack :celebration:

Oh sweet, I'll definitely look into that then! thanks!

Thats funny. I'm not mad, and therefore I'm unable to rage. Just re-reading my post, and I don't see anything that is particularly angry about it. The only thing that is laughable are your claims about the "high level" of reviewers reporting the same issues. The only one that seems to have a general consensus is the dumb A.I., which admittedly is disappointing. Fast ranking and level cap are preferences. But this game has its roots in legacy, arena based, FPS games. So it makes sense that the level and rank system is more or less a tutorial to get players accustomed to the games mechanics. Instead of throwing the games rules at players, everbody can spend a good five to seven hours learning about the class functions and general gameplay. Since people unlock everything at the same rate, everybody will be on a level playing field. Winning will be based on skill, not outmatching someone's rank, or perk.

You have some valid concerns about lag. I haven't got a chance to play this online, but it seems peoples reports are varied at best. This is disappointing, but typical of an online game at launch. Hopefully, the lag will be ironed out.

The lead map designer in this game is the man who made de_dust for Counterstrike, so it is not surprising that many of the maps have choke points. So far, positive reviews praise the map design, while negative reviews bash it. From my understanding, the game was made for 8v8 play, and the maps individual choke points were designed for 4v4 action. There is actually quite a bit of strategy in taking a choke point with so few players. It is less about overpowering with kills, and more about each player using their class effectively to advanced past the enemy. These types of maps are actually designed to favor one side over the other for a reason: One team attacks, and one team defends. The defenders usually have the upper hand, but typically players are put onto opposing sides after the match. Everybody gets a chance to be defenders, and enjoy the challenge of attacking. There are games (like Battlefield BC's rush mode) where things are switched up, and defending can actually be more challenging than attacking. In the end it doesn't matter, because every player gets an opportunity to play both sides. The point is, unbalanced maps can be fun, and I trust David Johnston did a good job making Brink's maps.

You say "yet" as though I was doing something hipocritical, I wasn't reviewing Brink, I was reviewing you my tempermental friend.
I'm not qualified to review a game I don't have I was just stating that no matter what others say about it I've devoted to much time to
wanting this game for it to fail so no matter how bad it may or may not be, I WILL love it even if I have to force myself, because I
am a nerd rageing really devoted fan and thats what we do. The reason I'm not offering a counter argument is because in my beautiful
little world it is impossible for Brink to be anything but perfect, and anyone who offers a judgement contradictory to that is a troll,
no if's, and's or but's. I ain't gonna sit here and say that it's a rational approach, but it is MY approach and in my wonderful world
thats all that matters. :tops:

whatever you want. Don't come complaining to me when you come crashing back to reality.

Nice vid dude, great to see someone doing the machanics justice

free :turtle: for you

Watching that stream for a short while got me even more hyped... Loved how he slipped away from an attacker quickly through great use of the smart system... Definitely going light body type medic!

I. . .LOVE. . .YOU. In a non-homosixual way. Cheers!

I told you this stream will do justice - over 900+ viewers all watching, debating,fighting and enjoying this stream.

So anyone whos in doubt of the game, come watch Brandon play.

The things what concern me is the matchmaking issues. From reviews and what players are saying it is really difficult to get into matches with a group of friends which could be considered game breaking. If you cannot join your friends in a pretty much MP focused game that is a big issue.

The rankings is somewhat of an issue as well but nothing that cannot be changed. I would like to see higher rankings which are available to attain after rank 20. They do not have to unlock anything and can simply be there like Killzone 2-3 and COD games giving players something to continue to work towards after reaching max level because lets face it; it's not going to take that long to reach max level it would be nice to have something to work towards after that.

Also I agree with what IGN when they stated:

"Brink immediately asks you to choose a side, but, you can take your persistent character through both sides of the bland story, making it pointless. In fact, during character creation, the only permanent choice is a character's facial appearance and their tattoos. Beyond that, you can change your size, look, weapons, class, and faction on a whim. This makes starting multiple characters almost irrelevant"

This is true there is really no point to creating multiple characters when most of your decisions can be changed on a whim. They should have made Body-Type and Faction a permanent decisions this way people have more incentive to creating multiple characters. On top of that it would make each players character more unique and individualized because each players character's main attributes cannot be changes on a whim players have to reap the consequences of the way the decided to develop there character.

Cheers! add me on the PSN (when its up): koreshonfire

gotcha:

I can agree on your last paragraph, body type and faction should have been permanent decisions for a character, at least in a logical sense. It's not that big of a deal to me though, I never had a problem going from counter terrorist to terrorist in CS, and there were no ranks there either... Yet I think I have spent more time playing CS than all other shooters combined. FPS longevity, for me at least, doesn't come from some fabricated goal of "hell now I HAVE to play till I reach lvl 394", it comes from gameplay and from vs games. That is also the only reason I bothered reading any other review than gameplay (danish magazine, will probably feature brink in the next issue (at the end of the month)). That is because alot of people will choose to play or not based on some guys, who has played for all but 1-2 hours, opinion. Oh I also always watch Totalbiscuits WTF is?, they aren't reviews as such, but he gives very good information.

i lost all hope that this could ever make fun!

i am a big multiplayer shooter fan, i′ve been playing cod, halo, battlefield rainbow six and gears of war for a long time now (mostly cOD and Battlefield)
and i think that all these examples got their own qualitys and i also like their different concepts.

i ve been playing brink for about 5 hours now and i can give you some bare facts :

-the aiming is crap. its far away from the toptitles. u wont be able to continously aim at a moving target. thats weak for a multiplayer game and def. reduces the fun of gameplay
-its not able to start a lets say usual traditional open lobby with some friends and look for some online enemys without bots. the only thing u can do is to start a free game with some friends and then u play against 6 bots and 2 online enemys f. e.(maybe, if somebody joins) or u do a private lobby with only your friends. what is this? that svcks!
-there s only one game mode.! no deathmatch, no ctf, no nothing, very motivating^^
-there are only 8 maps. only 8 maps!! thats a multiplayer-focussed game!! tsss ! (u can disscuss this one, but i also dont like none of these maps.really, they dont make much fun, and i tell u that as an experienced online gamer)
-the campaign is a joke. its just the 8 maps in that single game mode plus a video and bots instead of human enemys. dont expect campaigns like cod, halo or gow, not even close. horrible
-i got about 7 freezes in 5 hours now and my friends too. (ok maybe it will be fixed)
-the free mode is lagging so hard from time to time u just cant play (ok maybe it will be fixed)
- thought the graphics would be nicer
-the smart system is not that great, i works but its not the hit

are their any extras? yeah of course, there are 4 (!!) special exercises u can do and they take about 2-12 minutes per exercise. thats great! why not 20? with these u can unlock stuff for ur weapons, BUT: only if u play them alone. if u play these co-op which is some little bit of fun then u wont get nothing unlocked! makes sense!

is there something positive to say? - well, the character system is kinda fun, ok, but if u reached level 20, then u′ve seen everything and that takes about ten hours or something.
if u never played an online shooter before, then u could maybe think that brink is..good. but if u expeced some kind of quality than..just no! and if somebody says something else than i think hes whitewashing and blandishing!

Bethesda, i′ve always been a great fan of you and your games and i also like new, fresh ideas but this game is so poor, is such a big disappointment. it lacks in quality and choice. u can only play one game mode, whether if u play campaign or "online"
brink just got nothing to offer that would motivate somebody for more than 4 or 5 hours. period

As far as the body-types and faction not being permanent not being that big a deal I somewhat agree. The faction not being permanent I do not really have a huge issue with seeing as if one side is imbalanced it is nice to be able to switch sides. Also for competitive gaming nice to be able to flip factions on whim. But body-types I believe is a pretty big issue at least in my opinion because like the review said players can change play styles on a whim there is no consequence to your choices. It would be nice to see players stuck with the body type they chose as this would allow those players to become more specialized as that body type as they will become more use to the mechanics for it. Also like I stated earlier it makes each character more individualized which is nice. On top of this the fact you can reset your skills on top of all this makes there really no point at all in creating multiple characters. They really needed to have some of these choices be permanent that way there was incentive to creating different and unique characters. There really is no point when you can do everything with one.

As far as the ranking thing I agree gameplay is more important than a goal but it is nice to have things to work towards as well or to be rewarded for putting in serious hours on a game. For example Killzone 2 added a couple extra rankings which did nothing it just showed other players your commitment to the game and gave you a reward for your investment which is always nice.

I completely agree alot of reviews are biased as they do not spend enough time to actually understand the mechanics and intricacies of the game they are reviewing.