I hope that has the opition for rebuild the char after any possible tutorial. Then I can let a save readybto skip everytime I wanted to play a new char.

"In Fallout 3, Carol explains that even after the War it took a while for the ghouls to start looking like they do now. However, there have been occasions when ghouls are made instantly by large doses of radiation."

In the example we have as shown in the trailer (especially with regards to the electric pylons that are clearly outside of the blast radius), there would be a definite chance of survival if this occurred in the real world. Also, the radioactive fallout would not effect this particular location until some time later. It would be interesting to see how all of this translates though in terms of fallout lore vs real world data, and if it could possibly constitute a "large dose of radiation" in the timeframe given.

Re: cryogenics - I am quite sure that somewhere within the realm of possibility, there could exist a set of circumstances in which this may have been discovered. Perhaps some kind of one-off secret prototype developed by vault-tec that has never been tested. There could have been many failed attempts, just like in our world, until one day someone successfully discovers a way to achieve cryosleep. Along comes our protagonist, minus his family and everything he has ever known, and he is forcibly put into said cryochamber. Thus commences experiment number 13792... As time goes on, it becomes clear that the experiment worked, so it now becomes an exercise of "lets see how long the test subject can be kept alive". After a very long time, there is a system failure and the experiment inadvertently shuts down, waking our protagonist out of cryosleep. Or did I perhaps break something by suggesting this?

As for tap dancing, I have honestly never tried but I am always willing to learn new skills. Seriously though, I would never see the point in trying to convert anyone to my beliefs. I just enjoy speculating and researching how plausible each possibility may be, just like many other people on the forum. I have actually backed up my theory with several facts that can be easily verified in the real world, but I have also tried to view them as they may exist within the fallout universe. New ideas does not always mean "lore unfriendly". It's all about tying existing threads together in a way that makes sense within the broader setting.

I like this theory andnit reminds me of the skyrim intro

My theory is we start with mini character creation
We then go to parents scene with parents matching baby color
Then we run to bunker in first person just like the helgen scene in skyrim-
tutorial then starts

I like the scenario and it seems entirely plausible. Since I tend to choose Clint Eastwood style nameless gun slingers, and I just watched "The Outlaw Josey Wales" last night, this opening storyline kind of fits that type of person.

One of the reasons I think you could be onto something is that running up the hill may be part of the tutorial on sprinting and there could be a time limit on getting to the vault.

The size of the area between the player home and the vault would open up many interesting possibilities. If this turns out to be right, I would imagine that we would have some kind of interaction with many of the other residents of the town, and even the military, as things start to escalate.

I also like your theory, and it may work out this way.

However, based on watching the trailer several times, I am starting to think we are going to play as the dog,

Regarding cryogenics, there are already several examples of prolonged life in Fallout lore without considering the alien tech in MZ (Mr. House, Dr. Braun and the other inhabitants of Vault 112, all ghouls), so it's certainly not out of the question that Vault 111 could contain some experimental cryogenic equipment.

Picking up on the idea that it took a while for ghouls to become ghouls, here's a thought--maybe your character was exposed to massive radiation from the blast, and was then put into suspended animation in a stasis chamber in Vault 111. Now that he has been awakened, he'll slowly become ghoulified over the course of the game? It would satisfy all those people begging to be able to play as a ghoul!

Where does the cyrogenics theory come from by the way, is it simply an attempt to come up with a possible way that the family could be anything more than some charred skeletons or is there anything anywhere that has suggested that cyrogenics plays any part in Fallout 4?

We know that stasis chambers (Mr House and the Vault 112) work, but also that a centuries old stasis occupant isn't going anywhere...so does any theory of a 200 year old MC hang on the cyrogenics idea because its needed or because there is actually something pointing to it beyond a generic white guy MC in the first trailer.

Didn't it come from the leaked script from last year? It suggested that the protagonist was a pre-war military officer of some sort, I think.

Edit: http://kotaku.com/leaked-documents-reveal-that-fallout-4-is-real-set-in-1481322956, and it does specifically mention the character waking in a cryogenic chamber.

Also note that the player character picture in the leaked document looks exactly like the father in the trailer, making it seem pretty legit.

A bit to close to be a coincidence if you ask me...

Yeah, the leaked scripts been discussed, its not really proof of anything, even if it legit it is just a casting script rather than the actual story script but I guess its where the acutal 'proof' is rather than the trailer which just doesn't have any.

The player character in the trailer is a generic white guy, if we had a set character (like the witcher 3) that would carry more weight.

Simple. I've already made a http://imageshack.com/a/img540/4378/YSGU4f.jpg Also see http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/1993h06hw9hg8png.png of the protagonist from the leaked documents from 6 months ago. I think it is undeniable that they all depict the same man. It isn't just a similarity - the face shape, brow shape, nose shape, 5 o'clock shadow, hair, are all a match.

HOWEVER Bethesda does it, be it cryostasis, an android, a clone, etc. I think there is little doubt that the man exists pre-war and post-war.

Quite possibly. It would add some nice drama.

However, I don't think a person would turn into a ghoul if promptly and quickly treated with drugs like Radaway. The problem for many ghouls is that they were exposed to massive amounts of radiation in an event like a nuclear blast, or a slow steady exposure, and had no access to radiation treatments. Plus, I seem to recall that turning into a ghoul from radiation also requires exposure to FEV. Could be wrong, but I seem to recall that from the Fallout Bible.

I don't actually expect the ghoul thing, I'm just throwing stuff against the wall for the hell of it. Given the involvement of the Institute in this game, I half expect an android plot-twist, where we find out late in the game that we're not really the same pre-war dude, but rather an android who's been implanted with that guy's memories.

Can I just point I'm not knocking the theory, just the fact that it is totally based on a possibly legit leaked casting script, take away the script being genuine and the theory collapses.....so far the casting script has been right about the location (which was heavily foreshadowed by Fallout 3) and the use of a generic white guy as the MC (like every other TES and Fallout game).

Oh and the Ghoul thing, hasn't Bethesda already ruled that out.

I'm really hoping you're a human that's been frozen since before the war and not an android modelled after the trailer character who's been dead the whole time, in some lame end-of-game plot twist -__-

Now that is some actual evidence of a link between the two characters......or lazyness from the guys hired to do the trailer.

There is also a marked resemblance to the leaked script picture.

However, I don't think a person would turn into a ghoul if promptly and quickly treated with drugs like Radaway. The problem for many ghouls is that they were exposed to massive amounts of radiation in an event like a nuclear blast, or a slow steady exposure, and had no access to radiation treatments. Plus, I seem to recall that turning into a ghoul from radiation also requires exposure to FEV. Could be wrong, but I seem to recall that from the Fallout Bible.

Yes I believe it the FEV that the key to ghouls, since radiation alone isn't enough to create a ghoul.....the problem with opening the vault to let in the family is that you would not only have to treat the family, but everyone else in the vault and also remove any radiation that gets into the Vault, replace (or treat) all your irradiated food and water, etc...

Of course maybe Vault 111's door is pressuried (like an airlock) to allow the vault to be opened after the attack starts......but why would Vault 111 have this feature?

You can remove a lot the problems if you don't have the family out on the shaft entrance, are there any enhanced pictures of the family on the shaft entrance......they maybe just a reused asset rather than them being 'the family'.

Also I doubt anyone but Ron Perlman is doing the narration, so the MC won't be narrating like in the leaked (maybe) casting script.

I make no claims of any great knowledge of voice actor casting, does anybody know how much of the actual script is usual or can they have them reading just about anything?

The likeness shown in the trailer is mentioned in detail in point 7 of my original post, although the casting document certainly adds more weight to this.

Also, you're saying here that radiation alone isn't enough to create a ghoul, and yet earlier you said that "if your outside of a secure location (Vault/Bunker) when a nuke hits your turning into a ghoul."

Saying there is a likeness isn't the same as providing evidence to back up the claim....that is the main problem in the way you are providing your proof to your theory.

The FEV Virus/Radiation combination seems to be the cause of some ghouls as it of other mutations...its hard to qualify since I believe that the FEV was supposed to have escaped confinment to some degree pre-war and we see some irradiated vault dwellers becoming ghouls but we also see people dead from radiation poisoning instead of becoming ghouls.

However the main route to ghoulism seems to be nuclear explosions (like moira brown).....actually I should have said if your outside of a secure location (Vault/bunker) when a nuke hits your dead, with a very small chance of survival though ghoulism. I don't think the Fallout lore has ever been that clear on causes of ghoulism. Its simply established that the nukes = ghouls and left at that.

We have the example of the survivalist (NV) who was far enough away from any bombs (in the country) not to get irradiated and was able to survive post war for a time......so the Virus alone being active in an enviroment isn't enough to turn you into a ghoul you also need high radiation doses.

If you are alive centuries after the war then so far in the Fallout world you're either a ghoul, frozen by aliens (except for the occasional probing) or your stuck in a status pod.

I still say we choose whether to play as the Father or The Mother, I don't see them going to a set protagonist. I do agree that Prewar is the tutorial which isn't bad although it will annoy me because we will have to do the tutorial again instead of quickly making a character and just going out in the wastes. At least Skyrim only took 15 minutes tops, Fallout 3 was like an hour although you could have a set file at the end of the tutorial, New Vegas too had the same feature although the way that game was designed you didn't need it.

Yeah, we'll definitely still have full character customization including gender choice, and likely that will determine if we are the father or mother for the tutorial section. The protagonist in the trailer is just the default character so they can show someone, not an indication that we can't build our own character.

In that regard, people are reading way too much into the trailer, especially considering that every BGS game shows a specific character for the trailers but doesn't force that character on us in the game.

Imagine if there is a pre-war tutorial and then you have another large quest section to go though so you can get out of the vault.

Survivors are Hibakusha, but people exposed to the area within 72 hours are also considered survivors, or Hibakusha, and survivors of both blasts (or people who survived one and were exposed within 72 hours to the other, or people who were exposed to both within 72 hours of the blasts) are niju hibakusa. There is only one official double survivor (Tsutomu Yamaguchi), and he wasn't even recognized as such until about a year before his death.

Being a hibakusha made you incredibly discriminated against, you were considered unclean and fathers would not allow their daughters to marry either a hibakusha or the offspring of a hibakusha. They were considered a symbol of disgrace for Japan, and many were of the opinion that they should have done the honorable thing and killed themselves rather than live with, and be a symbol of, the disgrace of Imperial Japan.

**In both cases Yamaguchi was within 1.85 miles of ground zero**
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Personally I wouldn't really be too concerned with things from a 3 minute trailer. I'm not sure how I'd feel about being a pre-war human awoken from cryostasis, but it could be cool if done right.

The main source of evidence I refer to throughout my original post is the official trailer - every person on this forum has likely watched the trailer dozens of times and if not, would be able to find it in a matter of seconds. And so verifying the information is not all that difficult, it's not like I claimed that there is a likeness without anything to back it up. Besides, I thought that the post was long enough without adding a ton of links to different parts of the trailer, but for what it's worth, the trailer can be found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE2BkLqMef4. Also, the other sources I have referenced in points 3 and 4 can be found http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/06/hiroshima-nagasaki-survivor-dies and http://imgur.com/gallery/lFIxR/new?forcedesktop=1.

The other point is that yes you did contradict yourself about the whole ghoul thing, not that it's really that big of a deal, but you also made a huge fuss about how my theory goes against the official lore and could not be possible under any circumstances. As I said before, When putting together the finer details, I have tried to encompass what I do know about the lore, but I admit that I'm no expert on the matter - I just try to be as thorough as possible with my research.

I am not going to discuss this with you any more. No matter what I, Helljumper or anyone else says you will not budge from your belief that they survived a nuke in the face, regardless of any and all evidence that has been given to you.