1 Chapter on the East Coast changed their mission, what dont you understand about 1 Elder to 1 Chapter?
1 Chapter on the East Coast changed their mission, what dont you understand about 1 Elder to 1 Chapter?
I understand it just fine, I am saying it would be stupid to make up yet ANOTHER new Chapter when they already have one in the general area, and/or change that chapter to make the more generic.
But to be more back onto the OP's topic, I dont think we will have "evil" settlements, just settlements with normal people.
Really? That didn't grab either of you? Darn, I thought it was genius
Lyons doesnt follow the BoS's rules so it would make plenty of sense that once the original BoS hears what is going on they will send a different Chapter to do the job right...as well as an assassin to take down Lyons
The Brotherhood's response to Lyons was to simply cut him off from additional support and basically recognise the East Coast BoS in-name only. They wouldn't go out of their way to actually stop them, especially when they are at war with the NCR.
Wow so mean, Lyons was old an its been like what a decade in game since FO3, can't the guy just die of old age? Probably going to see that kid Maxom I think the name is in charge now
They bothered to send an assassin after Elijah, this is no different
The West Coat BoS doesn't have the numbers to do such a thing after they got smashed by the NCR. And why would they send them to Boston, instead of the C.W., when nothing suggests they knew of The Institute before Lyons went rouge, which was fairly soon after he came to the C.W.?
It was already fairly forced that they sent Lyons west, but after NV, sending ANOTHER chapter west would be beyond overkill. They simply don't have the numbers, and where would they get all the resources and tech to built this fleet of vertibirds and an airship from?
Lyons or the MWBoS are the only two BoS factions with the resources to have what we see in Fo4.
Cite your source that they are the only ones with the resources...because i have yet to hear that said even once in any Fallout game. Also i have yet to see any hard numbers on the BoS's numbers as a whole, we only ever get scope for whatever Chapter is in the specific game. Also Zimmer and everyone in Rivet City (as well as Ashur in the Pitt) treat the existence of the Institute as common knowledge so i call bullsh*t on the BoS not wanting to send a Chapter after the most advanced Tech-haven we know of in America
I think you guys are going off-topic with your Brotherhood of Steel discussion. We're talking about evil settlements, remember?
What if I can make my settlement into an evil Brotherhood of Steel bunker?
Well we know from Fallout 3 and design docs that the West Coast Elders were merely content to let Lyon's do his thing on the otherside of the continent. Elijah was a little more close to home and an actual traitor that was working against the Brotherhood of Steel where-as Lyon's was not.
Points like this are valid and everything but that's making the assumption someone needs a good reason to have someone assassinated?
Doubtful.
I find it unlikely your personal attitudes/faction slants will comes into player in the settlement building mechanics. Nothing seems to suggest you are "The mayor" in a traditional sense, like, you aren't making laws or anything, you are just the guy who has the resources to build new places for people to live.
If you build places people want to live, they will come to the town, if not, they won't.
I hope we get an Evil settlement, would be cool to further the evil in it or purify it.
If I build it I better be the mayor... I mean I built it
Mate, I'm going on what was actually said on the Fallout 3 website. The West Coast Elders just decided to cut Lyons lot off from them, to barely recognise them and send them no further aid. That's what it said, nothing about an assassination attempt. Just that they didn't give a [censored] anymore. Especially with the NCR trying to kill them all.
Yes but that is as off the events of FO3, you are not considering that time has passed since the events of FO3 during which anything could have happened, that is the point I think Warpsmith was making, they have done similar thing before so this could be what they have done SINCE FO3 to get control on Lyons chapter to increase resources they could move to support Boston
Well yeah, because we don't know what has happened since F3 do we? That's what F4 is for. All we know in the between time is from New Vegas in-which the Brotherhood of Steel is hunted and, apparently, each chapter is it's own individual unit. Like the Mojave Chapter can make peace with the NCR and then operate in peace? Could an individual battalion in an IRL army do that? Obviously not. The WCBoS seems to pressured and fragmented to undertake such a pointless venture. The only hope that they had in Lyons was Liberty Prime, which was destroyed.
If the ECBoS were such a big talking point then they would have been mentioned by the Brotherhood in FNV right?
I would be highly disappointed if that were even an option.
You know it.
No but seriously, I'd rather just have a settlement with other survivors and, if possible, Ghouls and Super Mutants like Broken Hills in Fallout 2. Having a settlement of Brotherhood of Steel or Enclave soldiers is just [censored] stupid.
I want my own crack house with prosttutes and a black market.