EDIT: Well Ive fixed the crash on launch. I can get to the title screen now, where I cannot hit new game, and when I continue a game it crashes. what is happening.



for some odd reason my Oblivion crashes directly after being launched, the screen turns black, flickers a little, then fails to respond.

Im on Windows seven, Running it as admin for SP2... launching with Oblivion mod manager, I do have Script Extender.

My mod list is as follows:

Oblivion.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Level_Rates_Modified_x2.esp
OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
OOO-Potions.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp
OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp
OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp
OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp
OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp
OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp
OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp
OOO-Level_Slow.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
Open Cities + Cats & Rats.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
Living Economy.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
ArmamentariumVendors.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp
Brighter_Torches.esp
Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
Natural_Vegetation_200%_by_Max_Tael.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp


The weird thing is, When i cleaned everything out, and ran with the vanilla launcher, it worked, it then worked with both script extender and OBMM... But when i added a mod, any mod, it crashed.

Then, after running again without changing a thing, the mod that crashed it before worked.

I repeatedly added mods, launched, sometimes it crashed sometimes it didn't.. Now I have my full mod list, and regardless of what mods I enable or disable, it crashed. Even if I disable them ALL. it crashes... But if I run it multiple times, Sometimes it works.

However, when all my mods are activated, it never seems to work...

Oi... my head hurts from all this >.<

Your load order is out of whack. Level_Rates_Modified_x2.esp must load after OOO and OOO before its optionals etc. Run BOSS to get a correct load order first.

Also, _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp should be enough as it includes the hairs.

Don't run OOO-Level_Slow.esp and Level_Rates_Modified_x2.esp - choose one.

Plus, are you running OOO Lite? If using Full you don't need the optionals. And if running Lite, you could just as well switch to Full as you're using all/most of the optionals anyway.

Also, Natural Environments is older than my grandma (literally), and has serious bugs like weather changing every 5 seconds, or rain in the planes of Oblivion. I recommend you to switch to, at least, "Enhanced Weather", or "Weather: All Natural". To substitute "Natural Vegetation", look for "Enhanced Vegeration".

Natural vegetation looks just fine to me even if it is old, there's no need to update if it looks ok anyway. But replacing natural weather otoh is definitely recommended it's pretty buggy and it's included in Weather: All Natural anyway.

You say that, but to me nothing beats Enhanced Vegetation + Improved Trees and Flora 1 & 2. The new bushes textures are impressive.

Hehe I did say that and then tried out enhanced vegetation (I was curious) and I was pleasantly surprised, I'll probably check out Improved trees and flora too. :thumbsup:

Here's a weird one: are you using the Raptr client?

(It's a "social networking" tool that tells people what games you're playing.)

After the last update, I had exactly the same problem as you, but I uninstalled the client and all works fine now.

Alternatively, check your drivers: the last time I had that problem, it was my graphics card drivers that were at fault.

Just replace the Oblivion.ini with the old one and it will work fine!

This is my new load order. I used Boss to get it, removed the extra crap. but still crashing. Also to above poster, what do you mean replace the Oblivion,ini? Also sorry for day late post, was gone.

for some reason i occasionally crash without the "has stopped responding" message.

Oblivion.esm
Armamentarium.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
KT_CustomRaceFix.esp
DEJ Harvest - Flora.esp
_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
Open Cities + Cats & Rats.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
ArmamentariumVendors.esp
Adonnays Classical Weaponry.esp
Living Economy.esp
Cutthroat Merchants.esp
Living Economy - Items.esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Level_Rates_Modified_x2.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Brighter_Torches.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Regenerate the Oblivion.ini - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=know_how_to#RegenerateTheOblivion.ini

Get rid of the KT Custom race fix, since it is replaced by the UOP. Also, BOSS is not working correctly if it left that UOP add-on at the bottom there. However, that add-on is not necessary because you can use the Bashed Patch tweak to take care of that fix when you need it. Where is the rest of Harvest Flora?

Okay slow down.

I regenerated the oblivion ini. If boss didn't work correctly, what should I do? what is the Bashed Patch tweak? and I accidentally removed harvest flora so im going to just re-install OOO to make sure I get it right.

Before I re install OOO however, Cats and Rats + Open cities comes with an Oscuros .esp... Should I use that one or should I use the most up to date Oscuros .esp from the OOO update?

1) Drop KT Custom Race Fix. <-- The UOP takes care of this.

2) When you run BOSS (again) make sure the LO you see in Bash matches what BOSS reports in the log file that pops up afterward.

3) When you rebuild the Bashed Patch (right-click and choose 'Rebuild...') you can find that particular fix (from the UOP) under 'Tweak Settings'. There is no reason to check it if you do not need it.

4) OOO has been update long since that mod's final release. Always use the latest OOO release's plugins to run OOO. It sounds like your OOO install was botched from the get go. Try this:

OOO Installation Guide - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=guides_mod_installation&subpage=ooo_installation_guide <-- step-by-step instructions with links to the relevant downloads

Basically, you needed to have grabbed the OOO 1.33 Complete archive from PES and the OOO 1.34b5 Update (from PES or TESNexus) and, separately, downloaded the latest HF release from TESNexus. That guide will direct you toward each of these.