or you find some of Reily's comrades during the missions. Comrades that were seperated from Reily long ago, that is whichever ones that survive coming back to base.

I love the idea of expanding the compound. Is there anychance the new armor though could be optional? I love the way their armor looks as is(Or give the new armor to new members you create).

Don't you have any WIP screenshots of the new outdoor areas? =)

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Sniper. Rifle.



I will probably only have one version at a time, except if I add more types than the standard combat armour (unlikely). I'm thinking of having them as separate downloads though.


They are mercenaries, they don't give supplies without you having to work for it. If I implement quests then that will give rewards, and Reilly still gives you cash for exploring though.



I'm concentrating on getting something ready for release, having the compound expand as the player helps the rangers would be great for version 2.
I have a few ideas for recruitment, the easiest would be to tie the growth to the player's exploration reward. S/he brings in info for them to sell to however it it that's paying them (who IS paying them anyway???), and they invest in new recruits and other resources.


Not yet. What I've done so far isn't terribly exciting in itself, I've just made it look more lived-in. A refrigerator, some beds, a miniature hospital, that sort of thing.



By the way, I always write Riley and then have to correct it, but I see I'm not alone in that.

also maybe a modified sniper rifle and assault rifle suited especially for the rangers missions

I don't think I'll add any weapons. The reason is that many people run rebalance mods like FWE (I do), so then I have to produce a compatible version for both vanilla and FWE (and possibly others), not to mention figure out apropriate stats for each mod. I'll probably just use the standard leveled lists, which mods often modify.
Armour is another matter, as it's usually not modified as much by overhauls. I've already made a ballistic mask, and am planning to re-tex the generic BDU's (merc clothing) to RR colours, if I ever manage to decide on a colour-scheme...

A screen to show I'm still working on this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/Tubal/F3/tubRRScreen05.jpg.
It shows the new tents, the preliminary merchant, parts of the infirmary, and an overview of the whole base.

FYI, Donovan will wander off into the wastes and get killed. I've found his body several times now. His loot includes: Ranger Armor, Ranger Helmet, Donovan's Wrench & Assault Rifle w/ammo. Sometimes has misc junk.

Might want to take that into account when you start populating the expanded compound.

Dumascain: That's part of a random encounter, where he will search for you and hand you a mini nuke from Reilly. He usually get's killed on the way, especially if you use mods.

Yes, I've noticed this too. I'm not entirely sure what I should do about it. Ideally I'd like to restrict that event to the ranger compound, but I haven't looked into it to see how easy it would be. I don't know how these events are triggerer.
Another possibility is to give him a token item that raises his DR and health while he's out looking for you, effectively making him immortal without making him essential, so you don't get "Donovan is unconcious" messages.

I've uploaded a preview alpha for anyone who's interested in seeing where I'm at: http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6068. Keep in mind that it's extremely unfinished.
Type "coc tubRRTestCell" to get to a testing area for the new items. Also, the compound map marker is set as enabled and fast-travelable to help when testing.
There are several different camouflages on different versions of their uniform, since I haven't decided on a design. It's likey that it will be none of the ones included. Suggestions are welcome.

I've tracked down the random events system that causes Donovan to appear (and frequently get killed), and I have a theory on how to at least disable it without conflicts with other mods. I'd like to re-do it a bit so it only happens in the compound, or perhaps only in settlements like Rivet City.

Rather than mess with the event, maybe you could make the rangers essential once they have been rescued (they leave the hotel and return to the compound).

Thats brilliant! Do it!

I could do that, but then you couldn't kill them yourself.

Why would you want to do that

If you're playing an evil character for example. Also, I know that many players want the option even though they're never going to use it. And then there's this friend of mine who, in Fo1/Fo2, went around and slaughtered everyone when he had finished the game.

For some camos you could do green plates with urban camo cloth.
or you could ask to use these sweet retexes or look at them for ideas.

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=398

or

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=380


Very good idea hope you come through with it.

how is progress on this mod?

So I am definitely interested to see where this mod is - any progress recently?

Lately I've been enamored with the idea of making the Rangers a full-blown faction in the Wasteland, especially since I lost two in the escape. Have you considered teaming up with other, similar mods? Like VitorC's http://fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5731?

I would love to see these things come together with a set of new quests (particularly quests to upgrade the Ranger HQ and recruit new Rangers).

Progress has been nonexistent. I got tired of Bethesdas atrocious patching record and I stopped playing Fo3 entirerly when BS came out and forced you to patch. I am now a bitter man, a hollow shell.

I've considered trying it again, we'll see how that goes...

From beginning to end, there is nothing happened, right ?

I did post an early version:

A new computer (lightyears ahead of the old one) and a new patch has gotten me motivated to mod again. I've sat down and solved a few technical issues so far: how to hook up the growth of the base to the exploration rewards you get from Reilly (without modding the RR quests), and how to make the named Rangers nearly unkillable by mobs, but still murderable by the player should s/he so wish.

Getting the base to grow realistically is now mostly a matter of taste: how fast, and how many steps it should take etc. I current have it so the base grows one step per reward you get from Reilly (with a day's delay, and only if you're not in the compound), no matter how small, so technically you could discover 1 point of interest and fast-travel back to get the base to grow. I've considered making it linked to the total reward you've gotten, or demand a certain amount of discoveries before a growth step is allowed, but I'm uncertain of how to balance it so it works naturally for as many players as possible. I use a mod that increases the number of map markers (Xyx's More Map Markers) and that probably doubles my growth rate in any case.
I'll likely add a condition to make the compound grow a step every 7 days if the player doesn't return, for those who don't bother with minor side-quests, and to make the rangers seem more independent.

I've also decided to add a type of protection to the rangers to ensure they survive any unforseen accidents after the quest (especially Donovan). I haven't worked out the details exactly, but I'll probably give them a scripted spell effect with an onHit block. If the attacker isn't the player it makes them essential for a few minutes, and possibly heals them afterwards. This should ensure that they survive anything except the odd initial headshot, and nukes, while still letting the player go crazy.
I might have to think of something more advanced to account for player followers, possibly by checking whether the ranger is hostile to the player at the time or something similar.

I've made a few cosmetic decisions too: I'll give the rangers brittish DPM BDU's. Reilly is an irish name, and the clover in their logo is another clue. Also, it's predominantly green, which matches their original look. Also2: getting complete uniforms in Irish camouflage, in DC, 200 years after an atomic war, is really pushing the limits of probability.
The Irish army actually has their own camouflage, but it's difficult to find good enough references for it. The armoured plates themselves will remain green, although I'll rework them a little from the original.

Hmm...the Irish bit will most definitely attract me...And the four leaf clover also points to their source of "good luck" It sure sound promising!

just a minor question, due to the fact that I have installed VitorC's Reilly's Rangers Upgrade, would i have to deactivate that mod before playing with yours?(due to cross over's)

I forgot: Ranger Battle Armor gives a bonus to luck too. The irish connection is mostly me looking for a reason to make up my mind though, I've made probably 30 mock-ups of different camouflages and colours for them. Among the rejects: Swedish M90/Desert M90 (I'm swedish), vietnam tigerstripe, urban tigerstripe, airforce tigerstripe, digital tigerstripe, cadpat, US woodland and urban, multicam, various WW2 camouflages, single colours etc etc. Currently they are http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a146/demoncase/07122007439.jpg with green armour. :blink: (note to self, might work for Rivet City security...)
I might still release mini-packs with a few of the other variants, just to make the work meaningful...

The mod will not be compatible with any that modify the compound exterior significantly, and may have issues with mods affecting the rangers themselves. Interior mods will probably be ok, and mods changing the Ranger Battle Armor will only have a minor effect (ie changing the armour). Mods that drastically change other aspects of the rangers, like the quests, may also conflict.
VitorC's mod will have major issues, mostly because of the changes we both make to the exterior.

While on the subject of other mods: I've considered asking a few other modders for permission to use some of their cosmetic additions in my own mod, like http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5424 (sic), and maybe Prometheus_ts' http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=6978 (the helmets specifically), to help kit out the named rangers a little more.