Expansion or DLC?

Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:16 pm

A lot of us want Expansions and i know there have been a lot of threads about this so i have put up a poll
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Eileen Müller
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:46 pm

I don't see the (relevant) difference. DLC is downloadable expansions. Additional content is all good by me however it gets to me.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:21 pm

I want the game.

And by the way, an expansion can be DLC. Witness: Dragon Age - Awakenings. Expansion provided as DLC.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:54 am

I think what the OP means is, do we want there to be an expansion like the Shivering Isles, Tribunal, and Bloodmoon, or do we want DLC like Knights of the Nine?

I vote for expansion. Who doesn't have the Shivering Isles but has Knights of the Nine? Yeah, expansions take more time and cost more money, but it's so worth it. DLC is nice and all, if that's all we get then that's what we get, but expansions are great.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:19 pm

Should clarify OP since expansions are just major new-land adding DLCs. I voted expansions anyway. DLCs, just change to "minor DLC eg. Knights of the Nine" or something.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:49 pm

Made the polls to clarify DLCs and Expansions Thanks for the remider and posts
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:20 pm

Why not have it all? Game first. Then some smaller DLCs to tide us over until the big expansion comes out. I'd like something based around the Dark Brotherhood where I get to visit Sithis and the Night Mother and her children and see some Hist trees.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:44 pm

While DLC is an acronym for DownLoadable Content, its connotative use in modern dialog usually refers to small add-ons regardless of the source (i.e. the "DLC pack" for Fallout 3 was clearly not really DLC since you installed it from a disc, however it is still referred to as DLC because the add-ons were small).

In essence, Yes, expansions that are available via online distribution sources are DLC, however that is no longer the common use of the term. It is correct then to use "Expansion" to refer to large add-ons and "DLC" to refer to small add-ons (in both cases, regardless of distribution method).
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:15 am

Off topic: You can't visit Sithis because you can't visit nothing & everything.
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tiffany Royal
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:46 pm

They have already said they are concentrating on DLC rather than full expansions.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:13 pm

Seems fairly unanimous.

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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:47 pm

Poll should be:

Large DLC - Shivering Isles
Medium DLC - Knights of the Nine
Small DLC - Mahrunes' Razor
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:24 pm

Off topic: You can't visit Sithis because you can't visit nothing & everything.


I realize that, I've also read the lore. That doesn't mean he (they) can't come to you. :P Besides, I don't care to argue my point, because there was no point. I obviously don't expect there to be a Dark Brotherhood DLC and won't be disappointed in the least. It was more a comment about how bad-ass I think the Dark Brotherhood is.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:57 pm

Still don't see the difference...
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:39 pm

Still don't see the difference...

One gives you one large DLC which has a lot of work put into it's individual world addition and storyline and the other has several smaller ones with less effort individually but supposedly as much combined, but they are decidedly seperate.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:45 pm

I don't see the (relevant) difference. DLC is downloadable expansions. Additional content is all good by me however it gets to me.


DLC is downloadable content, which is exactly what it sounds like, it's simply additional content that can be downloaded, in the current terms used in the industry, DLC is basically mods, except it costs money. Expansions, on the other hand, are traditionally reletively large addons, look at Shivering Isles for Oblivion or Tribunal and Bloodmoon for Morrowind, for example, both have a fairly large amount of new content, and usually that's where the distinction lies, it comes down to a matter of scope. DLC may be quite small, anything from a suit of armor or a new weapon to a fairly short questline that might take a few hours and may add new locations to explore can be DLC, on the other hand, expansions have to be fairly major, with many new locations to explore and such, in a game like the Elder Scrolls, they'll typically have a new main quest and many new side quests, and new enemies and items, and may even have things worth seeing after you've completed the quests involved, with say... Knights of the Nine, once you finish the quests, it's over, aside from the items you get as a reward, you can pretty much ignore it after that. Also, expansions don't have to be downloadable, they may also be available only on DVD. Thus, expansions may or may not be DLC, but DLC is not expansions.

Although they don't really have to be mutually exclusive, after all, Oblivion had an expansion and some DLC, there's no reason Skyrim can't as well, that doesn't mean it will have both, but it could. Though if it comes down to a choice between the two, I'd go with expansions any day, because there's no way a small downloadable addon can add as much as a full expansion, and even if the developers create enough DLC to offer the same amount of content as an expansion, it still won't be as satisfying because it comes in the form of small individual addons that are not mutually connected and are limited in what they can do by their very nature, and the combined price of all DLC would probably cost a lot more than an expansion too. Unfortunately, it seems like Bethesda has decided to do otherwise, unfortunate, but I guess that's just the trend the gaming industry is moving towards, and this will continue as long as releasing many small, seperate addons continues to be more profitable than one or a small amount of extensive expansions.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:28 pm

I never download content for games, so for me it's only between small pieces of quests that are sold together in retail (like horse armor, mehrunes razor, kotn and all the others in the same box) or big expansions, also sold as retail box (tribunal, shivering isles). My option is definitely big expansions. I don't really care if they are downloadable or not, I only care about substantial add-ons that come in retail boxes and feature new quest lines in new lands.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:21 pm

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DLC is downloadable content, which is exactly what it sounds like, it's simply additional content that can be downloaded, in the current terms used in the industry, DLC is basically mods, except it costs money. Expansions, on the other hand, are traditionally reletively large addons, look at Shivering Isles for Oblivion or Tribunal and Bloodmoon for Morrowind, for example, both have a fairly large amount of new content, and usually that's where the distinction lies, it comes down to a matter of scope. DLC may be quite small, anything from a suit of armor or a new weapon to a fairly short questline that might take a few hours and may add new locations to explore can be DLC, on the other hand, expansions have to be fairly major, with many new locations to explore and such, in a game like the Elder Scrolls, they'll typically have a new main quest and many new side quests, and new enemies and items, and may even have things worth seeing after you've completed the quests involved, with say... Knights of the Nine, once you finish the quests, it's over, aside from the items you get as a reward, you can pretty much ignore it after that. Also, expansions don't have to be downloadable, they may also be available only on DVD. Thus, expansions may or may not be DLC, but DLC is not expansions.

Although they don't really have to be mutually exclusive, after all, Oblivion had an expansion and some DLC, there's no reason Skyrim can't as well, that doesn't mean it will have both, but it could. Though if it comes down to a choice between the two, I'd go with expansions any day, because there's no way a small downloadable addon can add as much as a full expansion, and even if the developers create enough DLC to offer the same amount of content as an expansion, it still won't be as satisfying because it comes in the form of small individual addons that are not mutually connected and are limited in what they can do by their very nature, and the combined price of all DLC would probably cost a lot more than an expansion too. Unfortunately, it seems like Bethesda has decided to do otherwise, unfortunate, but I guess that's just the trend the gaming industry is moving towards, and this will continue as long as releasing many small, seperate addons continues to be more profitable than one or a small amount of extensive expansions.



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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:40 am

What's wrong with having both? Morrowind and Oblivion had both, and they worked well (enough). Although, I suppose if I could only have one, I'd choose expansions.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:36 pm

What's wrong with having both? Morrowind and Oblivion had both, and they worked well (enough). Although, I suppose if I could only have one, I'd choose expansions.

We're talking about our preference here. What time they spend on one thing subtracts from the time they can spend on something else. If they did an expansion they would have much less capability to do DLC and if they did a lot of DLC they wouldn't have enough remaining time or resources for a large expansion.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:45 pm

I think it was already confirmed that there wouldn't be another expansion. (Shivering Isles size.) Only Knights of the nine like.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:40 pm

I think it was already confirmed that there wouldn't be another expansion. (Shivering Isles size.) Only Knights of the nine like.


Which is most displeasing to me :swear:

Stuff packs are great for the Sims, but not for an RPG. Bethesda should leave mods to the modders and focus on giving us high-quality expansions (sorry consolers, but convenience has its price).
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:14 am

Which is most displeasing to me :swear:


And this is what I'm talking about. Bethesda will give us more content, but some people will be displeased with that because of the amount of content being given to us. It just doesn't make sense to me. More content = good. People should be happy we're going to get more (in any amount) because, you know, they don't *need* to give us *anything* after the core game.

:sigh:

I don't think I will ever understand it. :sadvaultboy:
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:41 am

And this is what I'm talking about. Bethesda will give us more content, but some people will be displeased with that because of the amount of content being given to us. It just doesn't make sense to me. More content = good. People should be happy we're going to get more (in any amount) because, you know, they don't *need* to give us *anything* after the core game.

:sigh:

I don't think I will ever understand it. :sadvaultboy:

Well, I imagine it's because of this: look at oblivion DLC. What do you see? Horse armour and houses. Look at the expansion. What do you see? An island, a new quetline new acting, new items, more daedra, and more monsters.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:56 pm

Which is most displeasing to me :swear:

Stuff packs are great for the Sims, but not for an RPG. Bethesda should leave mods to the modders and focus on giving us high-quality expansions (sorry consolers, but convenience has its price).


Right more is always good and Bethesda should continue the tradition of Expansions rather than your Silly Fallout like DLCs, waste of time and money for your Fallout DLCs :flamethrower:
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