Extending Gameplay

Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:41 pm

there have been many ... many topics centered around the idea of extending new vegas's gameplay via some dlc, as was done in fallout 3's "broken steel." personally, I would love it! however, I understand the reasoning begin such feverant opposition to this opinion - after all they have said that there are no plans to do so. I would like to give me reasoning though ... not as a plea, but just to calmly express me sentiment towards what I believe was a premature decision that greatly affected my experience with new Vegas.

While many play games such as black ops, where the exciemt stems from rapidly killing enemies ... I, as a more selective gamer, enjoy being drawn into a game. savoring the experience of placing myself deep into the storyline and reacting as I would were that courier actually me. however, despite the great story in new vegas it has a very linear main story that seems to loom, leaving little to no real breaking off point - sure you can stray from the main line at any time ... but if I was the courier I'd feel obligated to continue, only making a few side trips to help those seriously in need - and as we all know most side quests are errand runs - more suited or something done after saving Hoover dam. I am not here to complain, this is just simply how I feel, I enjoy the game very much ... but would love to immerse myself once again, I just know tht I'll reach a certain point when I have to start all
over again instead of
continuing to develop my wasteland story :(
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:00 pm

many topics centered around the idea of extending new vegas's gameplay via some dlc
yes there has, so why do we need another?

You give not reason why yours would be any different. You call New Vegas linear when it comes to main story. You do know New Vegas has four main endings right? You get to decide who you help and arn't forced to help anyone, at least none of the main factions. Three out of the four quest lines to make you deal with the BoS but still you arn't forced to help them.

Even if the story is linear which its not. Why does that mean there should be a broken steel type DLC which we have known will not happen since before the game even came out?
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:52 am

yes there has, so why do we need another?


i concur.
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:53 pm

All in all.. I don't see any reason they shouldn't. People should be able to play a game the way they want. People act as if it were an option they wouldn't be able to stop themselves from playing past the ending.
Just like the complaints about in F3 you were able to build a perfect character. Didn't mean you had to build a perfect character.. just meant you could if you so chose. I think it's silly that they put a level cap on a game that you reach the level cap half way through the game... However that's pretty much my problem.. I don't have to do everything there is to do.. I just choose to.
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:23 pm

you don't have to reply, just let it fall to the next page - I just wanted to say what I thought .. like I was on a forum or something like that.

I'm aware there are multiple endings - that doesn't change the fact it ends.
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:41 am

after all they have said that there are no plans to do so. I would like to give me reasoning though ... not as a plea, but just to calmly express me sentiment towards what I believe was a premature decision that greatly affected my experience with new Vegas.

Premature decision? It makes sense why they aren't doing it. Say you beat the game, on the slideshow it says: And Vault 19 Powder Gangers continued to terrorize the Wasteland... Then you continue the game, and you go to Vault 19 and kill all the Powder Gangers. If you continue after the ending then you can completely contradict what the ending states happened in the future of The Mojave Wasteland.
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:44 pm

you don't have to reply, just let it fall to the next page - I just wanted to say what I thought .. like I was on a forum or something like that.

I'm aware there are multiple endings - that doesn't change the fact it ends.


Yes but alot of things end. Fallout ends, Fallout 2 ends (There is play after the end but its poinless, the changes in New Vegas happen right away, not like Fallout 2) and Fallout Tactics ends. Fallout 3 ended but people complained and a DLC came out that ruined an already weak story. Read some of the many, many topics out there and you will see why making a play after the end DLC can't be done without a ton of work and even then there is so much they might not get it all, and for what? Because people are to lazy to load a save? or don't like the idea of making an other character? God forbid people try Role Playing Different characters in and RPG.

Only other way to have play after the End would be to remove the endings which ruins the game and it all goes back to my questions about why?
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:31 pm

well it occurs to me you have already made your decision about this, and likely didn't bother to even read my entire post - just saw what you didn't like and began posting. I would like to continue my story, not begin a new one over and over .. it's okay that you don't play that way, but that's how I enjoy the game and the fact I don't have that option seems unfair.
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:43 pm

well it occurs to me you have already made your decision about this, and likely didn't bother to even read my entire post - just saw what you didn't like and began posting. I would like to continue my story, not begin a new one over and over .. it's okay that you don't play that way, but that's how I enjoy the game and the fact I don't have that option seems unfair.

No I read your post, and sadly it isn't something new on the forums. Why ruin the brilliant story by making up some kind of hasty continuation? "...because war, war never changes..." "But then all of a sudden a NEWER, BIGGER, and more EVIL army rolled into New Vegas and took the Hoover Dam! Now it is up to you the all-mighty courier to stop X army, take the Dam again, and save New Vegas!
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:16 am

haha - I suppose that's one way of seeing it.

or after the end slide show you are allowed to
continue playing - whoever you didn't side with doesn't like you ... but you can continue playing.
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:31 am

haha - I suppose that's one way of seeing it.

or after the end slide show you are allowed to
continue playing - whoever you didn't side against doesn't like you ... but you can continue playing


Ok you side with the Legion. The slides play. Then you return to Mojave devoid of anything but Caesars Legion. Can't do any quests you might have missed before you did the final mission. Making such a wasteland would take alot of work and they would have to do it for when NCR, Mr.House and Yes Man win. They would have to account for all the smaller factions and characters/companions. Way to much work.

They made the call not to have a Broken Steel DLC back when they were working on the game. Bethesda had to have agreed, which means all this talk about Bethesda learning their lession about never ending a game is total crap because New Vegas would not have ended in the first place. I am sure Obsidian was smart enough to get that agreement in writing.
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:26 am

such a Debby Downer - what's wrong with wishful thinking. o, but you are a realist - well don't post in topics just to prove a vain point, it's a forum not a test. you have made your case, you don't want to extend gameplay but I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see it .. even if it won't be happening - that's what's so great about games, not everyone has to play the same as you do.
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:00 pm

It would be a refreshing change to have someone that is pro play after the end come up with a way it can be done without ruining the game and in a way it would make sense as in not take Osidian years to do. If it could have been done the devs of Obsidian would have done it. They don't want to do it and the game is great as it is. I like the endings for they give meaning to my actions. I have some idea of what happens to the people and places based on my actions.

Yes you are on a forum and on a forum you are bound to get people that don't agree with you. I don't agree so I am posting why I don't. I can ignore you sure but where is the fun in that? I am not breaking any rules by simply disagreeing with you.
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:51 pm

I understand disagreement - you have a right to do so ... but simply going on about how "no, it's not going to happen" isn't helping anyone - I will say your thoughts are certainly more developed than other nay-sayers ... who spout absurdities. but rather than beginning your responses with "well, why do we need another one of these topics" perhaps say, I see why you would want this, but here is how I see it. you don't win friends by insulting them first
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:01 pm

I agree technically that it can be done. The only way I would want it is if they changed the Mojave to relect every possible change created by the endings. That is a ton of work and would take a very long time; and for what? So some can run around and kill things? Adding a new Enemy would be stupid. People will also complain about not being able to finish the quests they did not do before they finished the game because those quests depending on the ending will no longer be around.

A play after the end DLC does not justify the amount of time and work that would be needed to go into making a play after the end DLC right. Again for what reason? To just run around the wasteland?
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:24 am

I understand disagreement - you have a right to do so ... but simply going on about how "no, it's not going to happen" isn't helping anyone - I will say your thoughts are certainly more developed than other nay-sayers ... who spout absurdities. but rather than beginning your responses with "well, why do we need another one of these topics" perhaps say, I see why you would want this, but here is how I see it. you don't win friends by insulting them first

You may like for it to happen. You may hope it happens. You may even think it's unfair if it doesn't happen. But it's not going to happen, so why are we still making threads about this. Sure you can express your grief, or your opinion, or what have you. But talking about how they should do it is useless because they won't.
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:21 am

you make a very valid point - and well thought out.

I would say though why do you choose a certain ending, because you make up your mind who you want to work for, or follow. I think that allowing continuance after the slideshow - and living with the side you chose makes sense - as you stated, a lot of work sure ... but I am not a game designer so I have no clue how much work
is really involved, it might be less than we believe. perhaps even create a story where you have chosen your side through the mq and now you have a chance to make a treaty with another faction opening up new possibilities ... you side with yes man, maybe make a
pact with ncr ... etc.

all this is simply wishful thinking, but no reason for either of is to
close our
minds on the whole matter
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:52 pm

You may like for it to happen. You may hope it happens. You may even think it's unfair if it doesn't happen. But it's not going to happen, so why are we still making threads about this. Sure you can express your grief, or your opinion, or what have you. But talking about how they should do it is useless because they won't.


I'm
sorry styles and I are having an intelligent discussion, if you wish to be involved please
move past the whole "no not gonna happen" close
mindedness and make a point
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:34 pm

After you pick a side there will be no more quests for that faction to ask of you.

Side with Caesar and he has total power, what more can they ask of you?

Might be somethings NCR, House or Yes Man can ask of you sure but that would take away from the Ending. What ever they ask of you negates the ending. IE ruins the story.
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 5:27 pm

I'm
sorry styles and I are having an intelligent discussion, if you wish to be involved please
move past the whole "no not gonna happen" close
mindedness and make a point

I won't deny that it CAN happen, I'm saying that there is a 99% chance that it is not going to happen. Close mindedness? Why do you keep insisting after all the proof, all the interviews, and all the other failed threads? It's possible! ...It would just be mediocre and ruining a good story. You want more quests and story line? Buy a DLC. But you want to hear about what the future for NCR, Caesar's Legion, BoS, Enclave, and all the other factions? Wait until Fallout 4.
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:27 pm

true ... but those who want to end after the slideshow can, I'm saying there should at least be an option to continue, getting to tht point is tricky because as you and I know they'd almost have to make a new game to add that much content post Hoover dam. perhaps, make an ending that allows one to appease several sides
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:56 pm

I'm with you on this one KizuStrife, and I don't think it would be too hard to do at all. Some people are just REALLY against it and always post in opposition to these threads...
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:07 am

true ... but those who want to end after the slideshow can, I'm saying there should at least be an option to continue, getting to tht point is tricky because as you and I know they'd almost have to make a new game to add that much content post Hoover dam. perhaps, make an ending that allows one to appease several sides


Still all that work to make sure everything makes sense so the Mojave that you end up in after the End reflects all the possible changes made by your actions just to have a few extra quests. Which would be a debate on its own. Why would a faction you turned against want anything to do with you? There is so many different out comes.

The DLC would start pain in the ass canon wars. Pro-Play after the enders will say "The DLC and all the changes I make are canon." Pro-Enders will say the original ending is the Canon. Like I have been trying to say, any changes after the ending with ruin the story by negating the ending. Making the game and the whole story pointless.
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Post » Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:44 am

all good points, but who really cares about the whiners ... I'm simply saying the option should be there. the difficulty is definetly with making it make sense - so maybe just have the option to sabotage the dam and end the war ... the factions are still warring but no defined ending
for those who want to
continue playing
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Post » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:24 pm

I care about the whinners. Canon Wars are a pain. Maybe I spend to much time on the forum but still, having thread after thead with people fighting over it will just svck. Kinda like all the New Vegas vs Fallout 3 threads.

I would like to see a good point other then "it should be and option" which is not a good point.
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