extensive load order CTD when fast travelling - help?

Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:43 pm

For about a week I've been working with BOSS, tes4edit, wrye, and OBMM to try to set up a heavily modded working Oblivion.

Please, if you reply, understand that I have 0 knowledge of programming, and I am a novice at using any of the above mentioned programs. Apologies in advance for my lack of technical know-how.

This is my load order (all dirty edits have been cleaned in tes4edit and I have no idea what could be causing the problem):

Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
USIPS Additional Changes.esp
Better Cities .esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
OBGE - Liquid Water.esp
Idle Dialogue.esp
Silent Player Voice.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp
1SB_TerryMalick_BallGownVariants.esp
1SBLethalMajestyWeapons.esp
CB Elegant Dress.esp
sixyTops.esp
TM's HGEC Ball Gown.esp
Babarized SinbloodWidowDress.esp
XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp
GizmodianSorceress.esp
Zira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.esp
Zira's Horse Modpack - Heavy Legion Horses.esp
Zira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.esp
Zira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.esp
Zira's Horse Modpack - Extra Horses.esp
Zira's Horse Modpack - More Horses.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp
OOO-BirthSigns.esp
OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp
OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp
OOO-Dangerous_Traps.esp
OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp
OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp
OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp
OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp
OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp
Plate Armor Plus - OOO_FCOM_version.esp
Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
OOO-Snowdale patch.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp
xulJerallGlacier.esp
OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp
Better Cities - House price patch.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp
quickstart.esp
Unholy Darkness.esp
SM Combat Hide.esp
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Oblivion XP.esp
OOO-Level_Normal.esp
DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
Stylish Jump.esp
SuccubusRace.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp
Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp
_No__persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
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Benjamin Holz
 
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 3:37 am

What are your system specs i.e cpu, graphic card etc etc? And at what point does the game crash? From which location to where? Or is it consistent for all locations? Did the game start crashing from the beginning of modding your game or did you add a mod and it started crashing after? How did you install your mods? Did you install all bunched at the same time (not recommended unless trying to restore your save files) or one or few at a time?
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Charles Mckinna
 
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:40 am

You would be far better posting your load order with Wrye Bash so we can view the version of the mods used.
Also re Oscuro's. Are you using the lite version? I ask because your employing so many of the optional plug-ins that you would be better running the full version, of which these add-ons are included.

edit - and that's not an extensive load order by Oblivion modding standards :biggrin:
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remi lasisi
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:36 pm

System Specs: win 7 ultimate 64, intel core i5-2500k cpu @ 3.30ghz (4 cpus) ~ 3.3ghz, 16384 mb ram, AMD radeon hd 6900

Game crashes on any fast travel to any location in the middle of the loading bar. It says "ding" (crash sound) and CTD's.

I did not test crash on fast travel previously, only exiting sewers (since it had been a problem before). Any one of the mods could have done it.

I install mods one at a time if they're complex such as AWLS and II and Better Cities, then test it (again without fast travel). After every mod I sort with BOSS and rebuild bashed patch if readme says to do so.Yes, I am using lite oscuro's so I have the option to use Enhanced Economy instead of Living Economy.Wrye load order is below. Also, I would love to be able to use a REAL extensive load order, but the more stuff I add the more unstable it gets. I am a mod addict and it's worth it to me to learn how to do this right.
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Britta Gronkowski
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:43 pm

Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm Version 1.3.2
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm Version 1.33
Better Cities Resources.esm Version 5.1.1
HorseCombatMaster.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Version 3.2.0
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Version 1.5.0
USIPS Additional Changes.esp Version 1.4.4
Better Cities .esp Version 4.7.0
All Natural.esp Version 1.33
All Natural - SI.esp Version 1.3.2
OBGE - Liquid Water.esp
Idle Dialogue.esp Version 1.3
Silent Player Voice.esp Version 1.0
Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp Version 1.1
All Natural - Real Lights.esp Version 1.3.2
WindowLightingSystem.esp
ChaseCameraMod.esp Version 1.01
RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp Version 1.7
Enhanced Economy.esp Version 5.4.3
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.7
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.5
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.1
HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Version 5
1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp
1SB_TerryMalick_BallGownVariants.esp
1SBLethalMajestyWeapons.esp
CB Elegant Dress.esp
sixyTops.esp
TM's HGEC Ball Gown.esp
Babarized SinbloodWidowDress.esp
XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp
GizmodianSorceress.esp
Zira's Horse Modpack - My Horses.esp Version 1.2.0416
Zira's Horse Modpack - Heavy Legion Horses.esp Version 1.2.0416
Zira's Horse Modpack - Friesian Horses.esp Version 1.2.0416
Zira's Horse Modpack - Shadowmere.esp Version 1.2.0416
Zira's Horse Modpack - Extra Horses.esp Version 1.2.0416
Zira's Horse Modpack - More Horses.esp Version 1.2.0416
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.10
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Version 1.0.5
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Armor_Perks_WearRate_Repair.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Birthsigns.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Combat_Skills_Perks_Marksmanship.esp Version 1.33
OOO-DaedraLord_Quests.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Dangerous_traps.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Deadly_Combat.esp Version 1.33
OOO-DLT_Immersion.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Magic_Effects+Enchantments.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Magic_Effects+Spells.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Magic_Game_Settings.esp Version 1.33
OOO-Potions.esp Version 1.33
OOO-ThiefGuild_Difficult.esp Version 1.33
Plate Armor Plus - Woman's Move Edition.esp
Plate Armor Plus - OOO_FCOM_version.esp Version 1.3
Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp Version 3.21
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp Version 1.6.
Apachii_Wigs_MaleFemale.esp Version 1
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.0.6
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Version 1.1.2
xuldarkforest.esp Version 1.0.5
xulStendarrValley.esp Version 1.2.2
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp Version 1.3.1
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp Version 1.2.1
xulChorrolHinterland.esp Version 1.2.2
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp Version 1.6.4
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp Version 1.3.3
xulLushWoodlands.esp Version 1.3.1
xulAncientYews.esp Version 1.4.3
xulAncientRedwoods.esp Version 1.6
xulCloudtopMountains.esp Version 1.0.3
xulArriusCreek.esp Version 1.1.3
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp Version 1.1
xulRollingHills_EV.esp Version 1.3.3
xulPantherRiver.esp Version 1.1.1
xulRiverEthe.esp Version 1.0.2
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp Version 1.1.1
xulImperialIsle.esp Version 1.6.7
xulBlackwoodForest.esp Version 1.1.0
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp Version 1.0.1
xulAspenWood.esp Version 1.0.2
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp Version 1.0.1
xulSnowdale.esp Version 1.0.4
OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp Version 1.1
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp Version 1.12
OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp Version 1.2
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp Version 1.0.2
xulJerallGlacier.esp Version 1.0.0
OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp Version 1.0
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp Version 1.0
Better Cities - House price patch.esp Version 1.0
Harvest [Flora].esp Version 3.0.0
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp Version 3.0.0
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp Version 3.0.0
ANB_No_FastTravel.esp
PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp Version 1.2
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp Version 3.2.0
Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp Version 5.4.3
quickstart.esp
Unholy Darkness.esp
SM Combat Hide.esp Version 1.2
Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
Oblivion XP.esp Version 4.1.5
OOO-Level_Normal.esp Version 1.33
DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp
Stylish Jump.esp
SuccubusRace.esp
Better Cities Full.esp Version 5.1.1
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp Version 4.7.0
Better Imperial City.esp Version 5.1.1
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp Version 4.9.5
Better Cities B&M - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp Version 4.9.5
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp Version 5.1.0
Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp Version 4.9.8
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp Version 5.0.0
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp Version 5.1.0
Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp Version 4.8.1
Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp Version 4.9.5
_No__persistant_enchantment_glow_fix-1843.esp
All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp Version 1.3.2
Bashed Patch, 0.esp Version 12/23/2011 1:21:43 PM
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 2:10 am

System Specs: win 7 ultimate 64, intel core i5-2500k cpu @ 3.30ghz (4 cpus) ~ 3.3ghz, 16384 mb ram, AMD radeon hd 6900

Game crashes on any fast travel to any location in the middle of the loading bar. It says "ding" (crash sound) and CTD's.

I did not test crash on fast travel previously, only exiting sewers (since it had been a problem before). Any one of the mods could have done it.

I install mods one at a time if they're complex such as AWLS and II and Better Cities, then test it (again without fast travel). After every mod I sort with BOSS and rebuild bashed patch if readme says to do so.Yes, I am using lite oscuro's so I have the option to use Enhanced Economy instead of Living Economy.Wrye load order is below. Also, I would love to be able to use a REAL extensive load order, but the more stuff I add the more unstable it gets. I am a mod addict and it's worth it to me to learn how to do this right.

Okay did you apply the 4GB patch to your Oblivion.exe to utilize more system memory? Are you also using fast exit and/or Crash Prevention System (although some users might recommend not using these two plugins)?

Oh about adding more mods, you are not alone brother. It's normal for the game to be unstable when you add tons of mods into it although you shouldn't go over the limit of 255 ish.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:53 pm

I'm not sure what patch you're talking about. As for fast exit and/or CPS, I've used them both separately and neither addresses this issue. Something is dreadfully wrong and I think a fresh install might be needed. :/

Good to know I'm not alone with the instability issue. Oh, and it's sister! :)
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:51 pm

Check to see if you have an anti virus program running or some other background program. Use gamebooster. That would be a start.

As this only happens on fast travel, it has to be specific to that function. So, the CTD happens when you fast travel to ANY location or specific ones? How about using console to coc (try coc testing hall).

Next, drop all you possessions and try to fast travel (in case something about them causes an issue).

Install a travel mod (like cyrodill travel service) and see if that also CTDs when travelling.

Try deactivating all your mods except Oblivion, start a new game and see how it goes. Get Alternative start mod to test without the tutorial dungeon.

These are all long shots but may tell you more about the problem.
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sally R
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:20 pm

Thanks, I'll try all those things. I guess I'll post whether or not it worked later. This all seems like great advice.
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Post » Wed May 09, 2012 1:06 am

I'm not sure what patch you're talking about. As for fast exit and/or CPS, I've used them both separately and neither addresses this issue. Something is dreadfully wrong and I think a fresh install might be needed. :/

Good to know I'm not alone with the instability issue. Oh, and it's sister! :smile:
Oh my bad I meant sister :smile:. The patch you could download here http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.phpbut only if your system memory not graphic memory is at least or more than 4GB and with 64bit OS which you're using.
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Lisa Robb
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:55 pm

Yep, should be all set, I have about 16gb of memory. Thank you so much. :)
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Frank Firefly
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:22 pm

I'm unfamiliar with ANB_No_FastTravel but it seems a strange one to use if you are trying to fast travel. I can't imagine this not causing a problem related to your crashes.
I'd also very strongly suggest to update your version of Oscuro's to version 1.34 full http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1320382-relz-oscuros-oblivion-overhaul/ and rid yourself of the numerous add-ons which are included in the full version.
If as previously stated you want to use Enhanced Economy simply ignore the option for LE when installing OOO.

edit - also remove OOO-Level_Normal.
Oblivion XP completely replaces the games normal leveling process making this plug-in redundant.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:56 pm

Well, ok, I guess I could do that. I just really didn't want the Living Economy.. blech. x.x
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