... is right in front of your face.

or "How I, The Vitruvian Man, And New Age MissUsed The Divine Metaphysics And Broke The Dragon"

the Dwemer are no doubt smart, mathematical, geometrical.some crack under pressure more so than others, even when the opinions split and risk is involved if some actions are undertakes. now, I hits Enter and in comes Vitruvian Man. VM pollutes the minds of some of the Dwemer, namely, Kagrenac and Bthuand Mzachnch, with arrogant intentions that, if acted upon, run the risk of divine metaphysics backfiring because of lost in translation factor when mortals stick their nose into divine without proper translation methods. K cracks under pressure. hit or miss. missed a hit. or hit a miss. in any case, mistakes were not made. and they were made. nothing was done, or has gone, wrong. but was done, and it has gone, wrong. so the Dragon broke. Again.

Did Sheogorath visit you last night?

eh, no. i just looked over some in-game books(namely, "The Egg of Time", "The Dragon Brake Re-examined", "Devine Metaphisics", and "Where Were You When The Dragon Broke?" (not in TIL though, but on the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore ) and this was something that popped into my head, so i pondered the idea, even though it does smell like Sheogorath and has all over it something that appears to be his signature .

if the madness behind the madness is unseen... seee, R'leyt-harhr is feline with something to say. Vitruvian Man, if "I" is applied into the equation, is one way to the New Age's quarters and the she says we all can walk like them until they walk like us.

but as Sheo-like as it all may be, it still is better than my other theory that all the Dwemer were beamed aboard a number of starships because some Ferengi was out to make some money and one way was to recruite an army for a, hm, a shady business contactor of his .

This is a pure example of the brilliance of circular thinking producing questions and problems dealing with concepts of existence - it is madness in itself, genius is madness, born by the destruction of aestheticism, the loss and fracture of the unestablished established reality and things that we think are, which gives rise to the chaos that may or may not lead to something whole. That which does is genius; that which does not is not yet complete, or whole, and is just chaos. Genius is that chaos which makes substance whole. Vision that allows the destruction of that which is, and then to be reapportioned from meaningless fractions, which makes all meaningless fractions meaningful.

That is why this sounds like he was 'touched' by Sheogorath.

I would take the time to dissect this, but I am tired, and have a long day ahead of me tomorrow. Good night.

Yeah, but lemons.

No no no! Apples my good friend! APPLES! But then you will have to remove the parts not connected with Aetherius WITHOUT rubbing the balance of the WHOLE! Should such a thing happen then the apples would be able to kill the pears! Do not let that not happen! Got me? Hm? CHEESE!

i am not following... what? lemons, apples, pears and cheeze :confused: ? what are we cooking?

i am guessing no one caught on to what i meant... or if did, then i guess its not all that grounded in anything substantially substancial ?

Do you even know what you said?

hm, i gather there is something to the apples and pears and all that that i don't understand, so yeah, i probably do not know what i did say. :shrug:

So you're saying that Ol' Doom-Drum is a crafty son of a battlemage in that he engineered the Dwarves 'death' by planting the idea of the Tin Man into their heads?

I can kinda see that given that they were siphoning power directly off of him, so he got rid of the leeches by teaching them to 'poof' themselves.

Every Tower is, though. Who was the first to see it?

eh, pardon the ignorance, but i am not following: Ol' Doom-Drum? son of a battlemage? Tin Man?

Sorry, euphemisms. Doom Drum is another name for Lorkhan, Tin Man is Numidium, and son of a battlemage can be substituted for something more colorful.

No, that's not what I meant. I meant that yes he was showing everyone the way, but when the dwarves did something that hurt him or weakened him, he started guiding them on a path towards failure.

i see, thanks. and to answer that question, no, that's not what i was thinkin, but now that you mentioned siphoning and the leeches, maybe, maybe. not what i was thinking though.

my line of thought, as Sheo-like as it is, is that Dwemer reached some level of development(magica, tech, etc), looked at the Vitruvian Man, decided that they are the [cencored] of the universe and should be gods(or something like that). Kagrenac, under pressure from the war and how it was going, not researching his stuff further, just went ahead and tried to speed up their quest for goodhood, and a)paid the price OR b)it worked and we now have a race of gods. or both a) and b ) took place, hence the the Dragon broke. i'd not drag dragon brakes into this were it not for what R'leyt-harhr had to say in "Where were you when the Dragon Broke?"(particularly, the highlighet part) :

“Do you mean, where were the Khajiit when the Dragon Broke? R'leyt tells you where: recording it. 'One thousand eight years,' you've heard it. You think the Cyro-Nordics came up with that all on their own. You humans are better thieves than even Rajhin! While you were fighting wars with phantoms and giving birth to your own fathers, it was the Mane that watched the ja-Kha'jay, because the moons were the only constant, and you didn't have the sugar to see it. We'll give you credit: you broke Alkosh something fierce, and that's not easy. Just don't think you solved what you accomplished by it, or can ever solve it. You did it again with Big Walker, not once, but twice! Once at Rimmen, which we'll never learn to live with. The second time it was in Daggerfall, or was it Sentinel, or was it Wayrest, or was it in all three places at once? Get me, Cyrodiil? When will you wake up and realize what really happened to the Dwarves?”

its just that he talks of dragon brakes related event and then mentions the Dwemer(isn't it who he means when he sais Dwarves?) and ask when will we realize what really happened to the Dwarves. granted, he might have had too much skooma recently. or he might mean something else aside from what i am seeing here... in which case, crash and burn to all the madness outlined in the first post