Limited resources.

Basic Human rights.

EDIT: I am not trying to flame, just using the rational of someone who would be a resistance member.

They would not run out of ressources with only 5.000 inhabitants (read: without the people who make up the vast majority of the Resistance).

Neither am. Trust me H0RSE and I have had this debate Ad nauseam.

You are arguing the side of the Resistance and I arguing the Security side.

We let you on the Ark, gave you food, repurposed the Containment Docks to serve as a temporary living area. Simply we don't have the resources to further help. Then you go and start a population boom straining our already limited resources and still you want more?

You did give us unused and unneeded cramped temporary housing. You gave us and dangerous maintenance, that were high risk of death. You slapped water rationing. Yet the conditions worsened and you expect us to stay in our place and just accept it, as we have sacrificed so much?

Ok I just wanted to make sure there wasn't a misunderstanding.

No misunderstanding.

I don't even really care about the debate, I am far more curious to see how it plays out in game.

Realistically, logically, I would have to side with Security on this one, though my heart goes to the Resistance side as well.

This is why we shouldn't overpopulate the earth and destroy valuable resources, people of earth, lol.

We are already (in real life) having the limited resources for people (especially in some countries)/ overpopulation issues, so in this game, I think something's gotta give, lol. :sweat:

Wait a minute! The Founders purposely misled both sides to make miscommunications and cause this war to reduce the population! THAT'S the answer! :laugh:

Agreed.
This should be an interesting story

Entirely possible.

But remember, in all of the interviews and previews the devs always say that the Founders appear to be hoarding more resources than they need. For all we know they could be living in the same conditions as the refugees at this point, with the only difference being that they still live in their nice apartments and still wear their nice clothes.

That's more or less my point with the situation, although this isn't the only thread it's being argued in so maybe I stated it over in the other thread. They let them on the island, but if they don't have the resources for them all to survive on the island together then they can't all stay on the island together.

The founders, we don't know how political responsability is divided on the Ark so for now I assume a sort of republic, saved the refugees for whatever reason, but for what purpose if not to save mankind. And if it was to save mankind then the "great thinkers" on the island should be aware that forcing desparity within a class system leads to revolution without fail.

I don't think the founders are evil, although there are very few logical reasons to keeping the "refugees" segragated for so long if there is space within the island, and I'm not taking a side between Resistance fighters and Security forces because they're just the soldiers doing what needs to be done with the information they have.

I'm starting to think most everyone is forgetting whats going on here in the story.
It was built so that either side, and it doesn't matter what the morals are, http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+think&qpvt=definition+think&FORM=DTPDIA they are doing the right thing.

People also need to remember, blowing up something doesn't make you a terrorist.
Also, I'm starting to wonder where these stories are coming from.

We don't know all of the missions/objectives. We don't know what either side's TRUE purpose is.
For all we know, the true enemies could be the founders themselves, and both the Security and the Resistance are the betrayed.

The resistance leave the Ark, who said anything about destroying it? Technically it is a waste of time.
The security make it safer, who said anything about them actually conducting true raids and terrorizing civilians? More of a waste of time.

Technically everyone is at fault here, because it is a broken vision. Semantics take a back seat in the story.
Resistance wants to start anew. Security wants to continue to try to save what they think is the "last hope."

And please do remember, just because you are part of the Security/Resistance... doesn't mean you want the same thing as everyone else.
Thats like calling me a Tea Party Member just because I think the same thing about a few topics the movement might.
I don't protest, so that would be highly incorrect.





Sounds a lot like what is going on these days if you ask me.

all very good points, and i was actually just thinking that the founders may be fooling everyone and both sides will end up against them

keep in mind though that the whole 'which side is better???' argument isn't exactly new...

Thank you! ^_^ I was wondering why people are taking sides so personally.

I mean, we don't know what the intricacies of the actual plot, we don't know how the missions go about or where the story is heading or even HOW the details of the plot conflicts are approached.

Maybe there's something more. Maybe there's something deeper.
Or maybe it's something shallow. We don't know until we learn more about the plot from either the devs, videos, or just playing the game in May. :shrug: :dance:

I think i'm going to start out as Resistance just because I feel like that's where I want to start. I'm hoping I find a clan while I'm playing it pretty quick after the game comes out. I used to be in a clan for quite a while in mag and we went to kz3 for a little while until everyone went there separate ways.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1112398-brink-fansites-clans-tournaments-and-forums/
You can look here

I'll have both of course, but I prefer Security because I like the clean look better so far :hehe:

Glad I dug around to find this one before making my own thread on the same topic (usually frowned upon in forums - a few exceptions where "necroposting" is worse than recreating existing threads - let me know if I'm wrong here).

I'm another one who really loves the fact that the game allows both sides to look like the "good guys".

I personally prefer the clean lines of the Security outfits over the battered look the Resistance characters get. It's not a particularly powerful "they're so much cooler" feeling though. I'll play both, but Security first, and I'll probably prefer them over Resistance.

i am picking resistance

why? soda can silencer, thats why

LOL, this is the exact reason i'm going with the resistance as well.

Cheers

I would have to say security, why? Clean look, more military looking, I always have favored the more law an order kinda thing in games, But I will be doing resistance after I get done with the security campaign, then once I am done with both of them I am hopping online an gonna have some serious fun.

I can understand why alot of us Americans would be a little more attracted towardes the Resistance just because we grew up learning about the American Revolution and praising those actions. But in my opinion too many of us want to be rebels just for the sake of it. Not all rebellions are good, only if there is a worthy cause and fighting should only occur if its a real worthy cause and its the only option. People who just like to rise up against the police and have the whole "F*** the man" mentality are more megalomaniacs in my eyes.

That said, no one is right or wrong in Brink. You can twist this story to make whatever side you want be the freedom fighters. As for me, I'm thinking I'll go with the Security first. Protecting our families and our way of life from these insurgents.

I must admit, while I'm still on the Security side of the fence, I can appreciate the "soda can silencer" argument as being a valid one in favour of choosing the Resistance.

"Join us - we'll give you more rations"

"Yes, but we silence our weapons with soda cans!"

Tough choice...

I'm picking Security because I agree with their morals. Plus, their armor is awesome, but that didn't really affect my opinion.
The way I, and the Security, see it is that, we so graciously let you into our glorious home, and we put you to work(that is what immigrants do when entering another Country). At first you were okay with it, but then you started to revolt because you didn't get enough water. We are trying to conserve the recources on the Ark so that we don't all die in a couple days. We are try to keep the peace and make the Ark a better place for everyone. What are you guys doing? Killing.

I will, of course, still play the Resistance campaign after the Security one.

Let's face it, 90% of the faction decisions are going to come down to looks anyways. Whether it be equipment looks or actual outfits, that's the real difference between the two sides in any game.

You have to remember though that the Resistance is not American revolutionists, they have a much different mind set. They want to leave this new place, the Americans wanted to stay. They are completely different. The same goes for Security, they are not Great Britain, and are more like the American revolutionists than the Resistance is. My point is, I don't think the American Revolution was really the best comparison.