Caesar already uses Flagstaff as his capital. But I personally don't want a continuation of the New Vegas story. I think something set in the Commonwealth with The Institute being the main focal point would be cool. One of the Rivet City scientists says that most of it is 'blasted nothing' but there's one prominent impenetrable fortress that you can't reach until a key point in the game. And the rest of Boston (really, all of MA wouldn't be that big of a gameworld) is a powerstruggle between smaller factions that the Institute stays out of, locked away doing their science.

I meant F5

Fallout: New Arizona?

Like...how about a fallout faction that is just a bunch of ghouls. They are from the smoldering ruins of New york, and because of all the radiation-there are tons of them. Where regular humans are the minority.

... I want Set's Army Of The Dead. :shifty: (Seriously, where'd Set go?)

What about Underworld, the town of ghouls led by Set in Fallout 1, and those space-faring lunatics in New Vegas?

What I really liked seeing was the great factions of FO3 reduced to minor players in NV. I hate the BoS in FO3, partly because they're so huge and powerful, but I loved seeing them in FO3 because they are vulnerable and are struggling to survive. Same goes for the Enclave, only six or so members in the entire Mojave, but still they manage to kick ass.

Every fallout has examples of ghouls living in their own towns because humans shoot them but maybe Enclave Officer was talking about ghouls having an active role as a faction and not just one small area. I would like to see the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ZcpcO7C58.

MLA and MWBoS

Totally agree with you Styles

the Commonwealth and the option to join talon company mercs

I personaly think that fallout 4 should take place in the commonwealth i loved blade runner and squeeled like todd howard when i saw the replicated man refrences.
the main factions should be as follows-

The Midwestern bos who are looking to regain their lost power by taking all the advanced technololgy from the institute,i hope bethesda leaves their badass armour and facist nature intact.

The railroad we should get an option to help them free the androids and destroy the institute.

The capital wasteland bos -now lead by arthur maxson are expanding are come into conflict with the midwestern bos.

And of coarse the institute and their army of androids,i hope bethesda's adds cool black trenchcoats to the android police like in blade runner .

In broken steel it mentions doctor Li went north to the commonwealth persuming she survived the journey,maybe our character is an android built by her as a new prototype our character starts out in the synch retention bureu and while hunting down runners[escaped androids] who tell us to choose our own life,we then return to the institute and we have thoughts about freedom and docotr Li then helps us escape after she realises keeping setient androids is wrong,part of the storyline could be about our android character experiencing what is to be human.also the various factions want to use us as a weapon the brotherhood wants to use us for a technological purposes and to gain entrance to the institute while the railroad wants us to act as an ispiration for other androids and destroy the institute also bethesda could set up random android hit squads like the talon company hitmen in fallout 3.

I'd like to see another East Coast game, preferably set possibly in the Institute. I do want to hear about the Capital Wasteland and the Pitt a little, and there must be some kind of BoS presence; it can be like five guys sitting in a bunker, but the BoS are at the core of Fallout as a series. They don't need a major role, they could have a tiny role, but they need to be there.

thats what i said in my above post!.

I like the idea of a fight between two big brotherhood factions (especialy because midwest and east have diferent way of running things). but wouldn't (an old) Sarah Lyons be in charge of the eastern BOS?

not if it takes place like 50 years after fallout 4 she was what in her early thirties in fallout 3 so say its 50 years later she would be like 90 old but then again Tandi the ncr president ran the ncr till she died at the age of 103 so sarah lyons could well be still be the elder in fallout 4 if the capital wasteland bos is featutured at all.

I hope so because my hopes are that they are wearing massproduced hellfire armor (grey collor ofcourse).
because they set up factory's in the CW.

I don't recall the CW bos setting up any factorys? they will probally repaint the enclave armour to a steel colour if they even use it like the outcats repainted theirs to a black and orange steel colour,
also if they add the MW brotherhood they should should keep the armour the same as the armour was a totaly orgismic [censored] beauty and that cape added to it.

I think i would be only a matter of (short) time since the population of the CW isn't doing very much exept for starving.
So they labor in eastern BOS factorys in chance for caps food and protection.

I did not see any factories in DC that made things other then toys and pre-war food and they were not even working. Unless the BoS decided to go back and take over The Pitt again. I can't see them mass producing anything more then teddy bears.

I know but the enclave must have made there new power armor somewhere.

Raven Rock, that damn base they had in Broken Steel. There were to many Enclave in FO3 to make any real sense but setting that aside, the Enclave have been in DC for sometime, more then enough time to slowly build up numbers of PA at those locations.

Don't forget adams airforce base :laugh:

There are a lot of good ideas from Van Buren. I'd like to expand on my Hounds of Hecate proposal. I don't know if this would be a major faction, most likely not but still an important one. In terms of importance in the game, I'd compare them to Great Khans, not the Legion or NCR. There would be one town controlled by them, ,maybe a few other encampments, and several quests.

Not sure what they'd be called exactly, Hounds of Hecate sounds best, I don't like Daughters of Hecate which is the other name on the wiki. The wiki says their capital city is Ouroboros. They are supposed to be in the American Southwest, and New Vegas did have them as the "Vipers" but clearly there was nothing else to them to show that they were the real Hounds of Hecate, meaning you could still put them in another region and not have any conflict.

They are ruled by a woman named Hecate who sees herself as a goddess (or a living human incarnation of a god) and demands worship. It is very similar to the Legion but it avoids problems I had with the Legion. NV made the Legion too evil for my liking. You have to be an evil character to look past the slavery and crucifixion and all that and join them.

Under Hecate (pronounced He-KAH-tey)'s rule, there is no slavery or brutal stuff and they don't act like the Raiders or Fiends. All the more reason why people revere her as a benevolent god. But still Hecate is....crazy. She is an egomaniac, so she is kind of evil in that regard. and so her followers are crazy too.

They're very pagan, like witches...yes, they believe in magic (read on before you bash me), but it's obvious to the player that Hecate's magic is not real, mere illusion. So this wouldn't be putting magic in the game, it would be introducing beliefs about magic. Primitivist also, this is my updated version of the "Ancients" faction I thought of earlier, people who are against technology. Hecate warriors don't use energy weapons or guns. They use melee weapons and projectiles.

Instead of dealing in chems, they make a lot of alcohol, especially wine.

If you want to make fun of the fact I compare them to witches (pagans who believe in witchcraft, not stereotypical witches who ride broomsticks), remember if the next game takes place in the Commonwealth (Massachusetts...) it would totally fit because of the Salem witch trials. I think it also fits with the post-apocalyptic nature of the game , like the Children of the Atom cult in Megaton. Traditional religion has collapsed, there are new weird ones, even Saint's Monica Church in Rivet City which is similar to Christianity, has nothing to do with Christianity. and there's also the Bright Brotherhood in New Vegas. I like crazy cults in Fallout, there should be one in Fallout 4 too.

I think that if there were to be a really "evil" aspect it might be human sacrifice. Maybe these people aren't forced....they might have a lottery type of thing, and their faith is so strong they accept what they have to do, or they even willingly offer themselves. One quest could revolve around trying to convince somebody not to sacrifice themselves in the name of a cult.

Dunno exactly where MWBOS is geographically but I'd like to see them make contact with either Outcasts or Lyons Brotherhood.

I want to see that East coast BOS & the remnants of the Enclave. I WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE THE NCR!!