Factions you would like to see in Fallout 4?

Post » Fri May 13, 2011 10:17 am

That could only happen if The Barnaky Ending is canon.

Now my question to you, is the Barnaky Ending canon?


Well going by Fallout the Good end ending is normally canon but I make the case that the Barnaky Ending is the "good ending" for the brotherhood of steel. Brotherhood defeated the Calculator. General Barnaky lives and again takes control. Mutants are removed from the BoS this is good because BoS leaders don't like the mutations. Some did and let them join but remember they were at war and war can make some strange bedfellows. Now that the BoS won they no longer need them. BoS still take control of the wasteland and reeducate the humans in the area.

It would be good to see a canon ending thats a little darker but still good. It would be nice to see mutants and ghouls fighting a cause together along with humans. (besideds the Rangers in FO2) It would add to the "hard times" the MWBoS are going through that was mentioned in FO3.

It would be better for a FO Tactics II game but for FO4 would be nice to hear about the MLA/MWBoS war.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:58 am

Well going by Fallout the Good end ending is normally canon but I make the case that the Barnaky Ending is the "good ending" for the brotherhood of steel. Brotherhood defeated the Calculator. General Barnaky lives and again takes control. Mutants are removed from the BoS this is good because BoS leaders don't like the mutations. Some did and let them join but remember they were at war and war can make some strange bedfellows. Now that the BoS won they no longer need them. BoS still take control of the wasteland and reeducate the humans in the area.

It would be good to see a canon ending thats a little darker but still good. It would be nice to see mutants and ghouls fighting a cause together along with humans. (besideds the Rangers in FO2) It would add to the "hard times" the MWBoS are going through that was mentioned in FO3.

It would be better for a FO Tactics II game but for FO4 would be nice to hear about the MLA/MWBoS war.



Yes I actually agree the Barnaky Ending seems to lead to more choices and possibilities and awesomeness than any others.

Barnaky Ending is the Best. It should be canon. And a game involving the MLA/MWBoS and other factions in that area would be good.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:54 am

The Enclave itself would either break down and turn itself into a new conflict.

Also power struggle in the Enclave might not make it a nice ride. And as far as I was aware the Enclave treats people who are not Soldiers as inferior. Civilians are second class.


Why would the Enclave break itself apart? They have controlled their own population very well seeing as how they are all cramped up in such a small environment, whole generations passing without even seeing the sun. The only point of conflict within the Enclave are those who believe the Project is wrong like Autumn, if the Enclave had won in 2242 however Autumn would only be 20 and the rest of the Enclave higher ups seemed perfectly content with the plan, and once the plan is done, how can anyone resist it? You are incorrect, the Enclave treats it's own people all the same, the Enclave are not a military faction, the Enclave is the government, including politicians, the US Army and civilians, all however as citizens of the United States of America.

And mass genocide no matter what the reason makes you a maniac. The Enclave gave me the vibe of "we are doing this because you are beneath me," basically they thought everyone was dirt beneath their boots. I would also like to say that they are in fact like Nazi Germany, both were trying to create the "pure world". The wasteland is like hell their are problems but the NCR makes progress and is making less people starve and the wastes a better place, so why should the Enclave do the same thing and kill everyone while they are at it. Why cant Europeans survive. Because the Enclave's leadership was insane and a maniac.


They are like Nazi Germany in many regards, but not in the regard that they want to enslave people, they want to rebuild the human race, thier race admittly I didn't say they weren't bad people but their not Bond villians, in the end the human race as a whole would have benefitted, because the human race would then be soley the Enclave. The Enclave give the vibe, "The ends justify the means.", they don't care how they create a safe world for themselves. It is not insane or manical from their prospective, the fact that the whole human race would benefit is purely incidental, the Enclave wants to save itself but regardless of their motives all humans born into this new world would live in the world I described.

The human race has survived, they are going to survive until someone rebuilds a nuke. I dont see how the Enclave are making the human race survive, they have been through a Nuclear War, slavers and raiders are not going to extinct the human race. It might be hell in areas for a while but it will get better. SO no the Enclave would actually doom the Human Race because their is not enough members for them to have a proper gene pool.


In the 150 years they spent on the Oil Rig they never faced such a problem, at least in 2242, they were plenty enough people to continue the human race.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:00 pm

What do you think the Enclave was trying to do, Richardson was not an idiot and Eden's plans, if not for Broken Steel, would have worked fine as would have Richardson's. Without a god-like player character to beat them the Enclave would have won both times.



I would like it to be more along the line of Autumnist. I think he had the true goals of America in mind. THAT would be actually RECRUITING people into it, and actually REBUILDING the war torn country from the water purifier outward. Besides, who is actually left in the vualts at this point to re-populate the wasteland. Nobody really.

I supported Richardson and Eden when they were in power, as long as there was a chance of pre-war america under their rule. There isnt anymore, and we have to actually RECRUIT from somewhat radiated indeviduals.

I think it is time for an Autumnist Enclave, and that is the kind I would like to be in the new Fallout.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:29 pm

@The Enclave

As soon as the Enclave started spreading out across this lifeless new world people in different areas of the globe would try to take complete control of the area. Its human nature. Convincing the people in the area that tehy dont have to work fr a government in DC when tehy are colonizing Kazakhstan would likely not be hard. Human Nature would cause teh Enclave to fall apart. It might take years adn you might not see it but unfortunately I believe that to be the truth.


Yes they do believe the ends justify the means but the ends are not right and they are still killing completely innocent people. Also why are the Enclave more American and therefore deserve to be the only ones living, which is the ends, than people on the Mainland. Both are descended from Americans, just one is descended from the elected government officals at the time and the others are descended from the people who elected them. Some Ghoul from 203 years ago could have his American Passport or Citizenship in his wallet, that he still carries with him as a keepsake of those better days. The only difference between Enclave and mainlanders is one has been exposed to more radiation than the other. So the Enclave decides to kill'em all in the name of unity. Thats not right or even good no matter which way you cut it.

About the fact that tehy never faced problems from a dwindling gene pool on the rig, well thats unrealistic. Maybe the reason they have stupid bad plans is because of their dwindling Gene Pool.

@Enclave Officer

I agree I think we should see an Autumnist Enclave. Maybe not a huge superpower bu the Chicago Base and Autumn's fleeing men towrds said base could have new ideas and try to actually build a real nation.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 5:16 am

The Institute
The Railroad/Android Movement
Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel


Here's how I view it: After having defeated the Calculator and Gammorin's army, the MW BOS has begun expanding towards the east. When word got out of a group creating humanoid robots, the BOS began mobilizing to the Commonwealth. The player takes the role of a young member of The Institute who must decide if he'll help his people (The Institute), the MW BOS, or set free the androids, or even have the androids serve you as you take control of the wasteland. :D

Of course this all sounds like New Vegas: Part 2: Moar Machines.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:33 am

Brotherhood of Steel, Enclave and you should have a choice as to which one you want to join up with.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 7:35 am

Why would the Enclave break itself apart? They have controlled their own population very well seeing as how they are all cramped up in such a small environment, whole generations passing without even seeing the sun. The only point of conflict within the Enclave are those who believe the Project is wrong like Autumn, if the Enclave had won in 2242 however Autumn would only be 20 and the rest of the Enclave higher ups seemed perfectly content with the plan, and once the plan is done, how can anyone resist it? You are incorrect, the Enclave treats it's own people all the same, the Enclave are not a military faction, the Enclave is the government, including politicians, the US Army and civilians, all however as citizens of the United States of America.



They are like Nazi Germany in many regards, but not in the regard that they want to enslave people, they want to rebuild the human race, thier race admittly I didn't say they weren't bad people but their not Bond villians, in the end the human race as a whole would have benefitted, because the human race would then be soley the Enclave. The Enclave give the vibe, "The ends justify the means.", they don't care how they create a safe world for themselves. It is not insane or manical from their prospective, the fact that the whole human race would benefit is purely incidental, the Enclave wants to save itself but regardless of their motives all humans born into this new world would live in the world I described.



In the 150 years they spent on the Oil Rig they never faced such a problem, at least in 2242, they were plenty enough people to continue the human race.


The Enclave are a bunch of Fascists who only serve a a mockery that was the U.S. government.

In all seriousness though, I think the Enclave should be gone and be only in the game as the Remnants. The Enclave has had two presidents destroyed and the bulk of their forces blown up twice.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 3:56 pm

Hounds of Hecate
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Hecate

Fallout 4's version of the Legion, but a lot less powerful...more like a gang than an empire.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:08 am

Chicago. All hail the Great lakes Mirelurk kingdom!
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 1:07 pm

I'd like to see the Midwestern Brotherhood of Steel

This! Definitely and since Fallout New Vegas we've learned that there is an Enclave branch in Chicago so I hope to see some conflict. I also want to see what'll happen when they meet up with the origional BOS out west.

I hope maby to see Ceaser's Legion in their Eastern territories

The Reavers from Tactics would be cool to see again.

I hope that there will be more untaimed tribes if it takes place to the East because to the West most have been rehabilitated.

Again, if it takes place to the East I'm curious about what's going to happen between the Outcasts and the Lyon's BOS, and why the super mutants were so interested in DC and if the BOS defeated them.

I suspect that the next game will take place on the East Coast like in FO3 so most of the above options are unlikely and are just things I would like to see eventually.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 1:25 pm

The Enclave are a bunch of Fascists who only serve a a mockery that was the U.S. government.

In all seriousness though, I think the Enclave should be gone and be only in the game as the Remnants. The Enclave has had two presidents destroyed and the bulk of their forces blown up twice.

New Vegas reveals that they have at least one more branch in Chicago but it doesn't say how large.
Personally, I hope that the MW BOS defeat them and that's the end of it.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:36 am

Be interresting if the west actually breaks down again.
Example: NCR falls apart from a civil war and rioting at home from lack of supplies. It is forced back into California, and the large ammount of land and locals are left unguarded by the Republic. Civilization goes downhill as refugees swarm into California to be under he protection of the New California Republic. Famine and large riots occur, along with other socio-political problems. Raiders become a problem again as supplies dwindle. The Brotherhood regains a little bit of former power, etc.

I think it would be interesting to see what happens when one of these new nations fall.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 8:34 am

Be interresting if the west actually breaks down again.
Example: NCR falls apart from a civil war and rioting at home from lack of supplies. It is forced back into California, and the large ammount of land and locals are left unguarded by the Republic. Civilization goes downhill as refugees swarm into California to be under he protection of the New California Republic. Famine and large riots occur, along with other socio-political problems. Raiders become a problem again as supplies dwindle. The Brotherhood regains a little bit of former power, etc.

I think it would be interesting to see what happens when one of these new nations fall.

I thought about that after speaking with Marcus in Jacobstown but forgot about it completely shortly after.
I reeeeeaaaalllly hope this happens because then something interesting would actually be going on in California again and it'd almost be like old times. Except in 3D and probably much smaller meaning it wouldn't do the Core Region justice.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 2:54 pm

Tribals.
Any tribals.
Needs MOAR tribals! :D

And yes, I'm serious.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 4:07 am

Tribals.
Any tribals.
Needs MOAR tribals! :D

And yes, I'm serious.


This! I hated how there were no real tribals left in New Vegas.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 11:10 am

This! I hated how there were no real tribals left in New Vegas.

Khans were "tribals" though. (loose term)
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 12:34 pm

Khans were "tribals" though. (loose term)

I wouldn't call them tribals. They are more like raider gang. I want tribals like Sulik and Arroyo folks.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 9:54 am

I'd like to see the Institute and the eastern BoS.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 1:04 pm

Ugg the Eastern BoS are obnoxious... I can see why they were tossed out east.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:57 am

Depends on where it takes place.
Personally, I'd like to see someplace new, so maybe whole new factions.

And really, the only way the Enclave could ever really show up again is as remnants, or if they'd completely changed their stars and started recruiting.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:08 pm

Hmn... Id like to see how the NCR and House would do in the face of a Burning man insurrection and a possible campain into legion lands. Supporting the Burning man with finance(House) military advisors and a bureacracy (NCR) could lead to the complete implosion of Caesars legions territories. And then BANG as we stand at the Gates of Flagstaff a new threat emerges from the Shi. Presto moar drama!
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 2:49 pm

I'm tired of the Brotherhood of Steel...they are boring. Please no more of them.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 6:55 am

You're right in that it doesn't say it's a nation, but I think it's pretty clear they are. Mostly because of the aforementioned police force, the fact that in the Replicated Man quest, it was mentioned that the Commonwealth, not the Institute, tried to cover-up the fact that an android was on the run, and because the area is named after the Commonwealth of Massachusetts with "of Massachusetts" removed, hinting that it is not simply a lawless wasteland like D.C. is.

I don't know. It's mentioned that the beside the Institute the place is pretty lacking in overall order and reasonable conduct.
It seems that if they were a nation, Zimmer wouldn't make it sound so bad outside the Institute.

I just don't get the whole Androids thing, the US in places like Raven Rock, a continuity of government base, has a sentient AI the size of a... Vertibird Hanger. Yet after a nuclear war this Institute has the resources to build sentient AI's in convincing human forms (with even artificial blood, digestive systems and as Harkness says "he cut himself shaving"?) AFTER a nuclear war and can apartently build so many of them and so many escape that the Institutes Police Force has a special unit to track them down and a whole underground network of sympathisers has been set up to help them escape. I think it's just a Blade Runner reference taken too far.

Androids don't need to be complete robots, you know. An android is a synthetic man. Also Fallout 2 had SkyNet a computer which (depending on the brain you got) could be transfered into a robo-brain.
On that basis I'd say an Institute android is either a combination of organic and machine parts.

The Institute does intrigue me enough to want to see more of them.
But what I'd like to see most of all is some sort of Vault City. A community built around an opened vault, but not a direct copy of the FO2 Vault City.
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Post » Fri May 13, 2011 12:39 pm

I think a Fallout game taking place north of Caesar's Legion (with a TON of tribes) with Caesar's Legion expanding, the tribes atempting to unite and the Burned Man (Joshua Graham) attempting to unite the people while hiding from Legion scouts. You could be a (or the) Tribal who could either help him unite the tribes against the Legion (canon should be that they lost the fight at Hover Dam and that Legate Lanius was killed, maybe with somebody named Augustis (another Roman leader) taking over. And they use Pheonix, Arizona as their Rome). With Houses (or Yes Man's) Securitrons trying to make treeaies with some western tribes and/or NCR scouts
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