Facts & Speculation [Speculation]

Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:39 pm

I haven't heard a lot of these 'facts' you're talking about, but I swear I remember Bethesda saying that the Brotherhood is a joinable faction in the game.
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Siidney
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:55 am

Why leave a... sole survivor-OHHH see what I did there? Heh heh.... anyway...

I mentioned that maybe you "fight your way out" since Howard (the male protaganist) has combat training and just causes too much trouble for the faction attacking the vault thus they seal him inside instead of dealing with him directly (because by the time they "seal the vault" he's already popped a few bullets into the bad guys).

Their are 12 companions... and we only know about 4 :tongue:

And yes most of this should be taken with a barrel--err grain of salt.

Same here but can't remember the source. :confused:

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Lynette Wilson
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:46 am


Wait, what? You're saying that things you yourself have said are facts should be taken with a grain of salt? If you believe they're facts, then why are you so uncertain? It does seem like you've included a lot of speculation in the facts and are trying to apply your own logic to make a fact. You're thinking something like "Well, this is here and that's there, so it must mean this! That's got to be a fact!" which is speculation.
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:15 am

Until the game gets released, it's ALL speculation, even what Beth have said (not shown) so far is up for discussion and must be questioned.

Why? Because "we didn't have time for beast legs, sorry Skyrim fans!"

Beth is still awesome though. :fallout:

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:43 pm


It's a fact that we have better lighting and weather. It's a fact that we have a set back story for our character. It's a fact that there are twelve companions, including Piper and Dogmeat. It's a fact we can build settlements. It's a fact that skills and perks are combined. We have loads of facts now, most of which we can see on screen. It's not all speculation; and even if it was, why make a list of facts and a list of speculation and put a load of speculation into the facts? If it's all speculation, you could just make one list of speculation.
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Ella Loapaga
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:05 pm

Fact - A thing that is indisputably the case.

"She lacks political experience—a fact that becomes clear when she appears in public."

Synonyms:reality, actuality, certainty
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:15 am

Facts: Bethesda said it or showed it. (usually)

Speculation: Anyone other than Bethesda said it.

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Kate Murrell
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:00 pm

Fire Extinguishers are likely the closest thing to adding a freezing style effect, depending on the type of fire extinguisher being used.

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Laura Wilson
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:36 am

A good amount of those aren't confirmed at all, especially saying a certain faction plays this major role or is present based on nothing valid. Watching anolysis videos and being sure about something isn't confirmation on anything in the slightest, so I don't know why you're labeling things as facts.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:59 am


Debatable. I, for one, do not remember being able to burn down buildings in Skyrim.

I think it best we believe only what we see, not what we hear.
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Marlo Stanfield
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:34 am

There is one https://youtu.be/MzlK0OGpIRs?t=13s

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Janette Segura
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:34 am

You might believe these things are true/facts.

Unless something is explicitly stated to be so by Bethesda officially, its speculation. Until the game goes gold, nothing is one hundred percent set in stone.

Really. People posting "facts" that haven't been announced by an official source has caused more than one instance of OMG THE DEVS LIED. So not worth the drama and hassle.

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Felix Walde
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 12:36 am

I'm way ahead of you :D

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:08 am

Not to be cheeky about it, but I've added the [Speculation] tag to the thread title, to cut down on people potentially getting confused.

At the end of the day anything you're not seeing specifically confirmed within a released video is going to be speculative, and even a lot of the assumptions people are going to come to about what they've seen is going to be speculation. ~KC, you've done a decent job of clarifying your opening post and being relatively clear about it, but making the thread title more accurate ought to (hopefully) get ahead of any further trouble.

My advice is that anything you put on your "facts" list, someone's going to come along and question it. If you aren't able to point out where in a video you found evidence of it or trace the logic that led to your conclusion then you might want to question whether or not it's really a "fact." In the meantime, though, so long as everyone's enjoying themselves... :shrug:

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:58 am

Mostly speculation, with grains of truth added in to make it appear legitimate. Come on man, we don't need to spread more misinformation than what's already out there.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:56 am

The Lyon's brotherhood is NOT fact. It's purely speculation. We do not know which BoS faction it is, and I highly doubt that it's Lyon's given the close time frame.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:56 am

Change the title and/or add tags as required, don't want to mislead anyone :D

"remember to take ALL of this with a grain of salt folks, the game is not released yet"

The logo seen is the same as Lyon's, but true we don't know it as fact.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:33 am

Why not just remove "Facts" all together and just put in "My speculations" instead.

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Erika Ellsworth
 
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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:13 pm

Thread has been edited to let readers know this is ALL SPECULATION :D

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:07 am

If child NPCs grow up over time, wouldn't that logically mean that all NPCs ought to be aging over time and having children that replace them somehow? As interesting of an idea of children growing up in real time is, it's not really something I would realistically expect to be in the game due to the amount of work it would involve, plus the implications on the writing and voice acting side of things. Quests involving aging children would need to be designed in mind for the possibility of involved characters being children, teenagers or advlts depending on how much time has passed before the player starts given quests and how much time passes during and after as well.

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:50 am

You're thinking of old game mechanics from years ago (Fallout 3), Beth have improved on a lot since then.

The game mechanics required are all there (a baby is generated based on your choices at the start of the game) so if that can be done then why not with child/advlt NPC's as well? Why bother with such a complex system if it's not going to play a significant part? Beth are not the type to waste game resources.

P.S. Unlike TES and previous Fallout games their are no races it seems, you just pick what you want from the "pool" of choices. :lightbulb:

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Post » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:16 am

basically this. OP whenever you use verbiage like "I think" "I'm pretty sure" "I'm X% certain" where X% is not exactly = 100%, then you are stating pure opinions and not facts. The majority of what you posted is basically just that. You might want to consider renaming this thread because it's misleading. That being said, this was an interesting read of features I hope Beth had time to include in the base game. If not, then maybe these will surface as DLC or in mods.
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