Fairly Frequent Freezes : IV

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:50 am

I just got finished doing a complete re-install of Oblivion, and have scaled my mods back to what I consider a very small list. My goal was to just run the mods I really wanted and couldn't live without, and to have as crash-free a game as possible.

Unfortunately, my game freezes after 1 - 3 hours of play. It doesn't CTD, the screen just freezes and the sound stutters until I manually restart my computer. This is frustrating me, because I have a small list of mods, the mods I use seem very well-made and stable, and I am doing everything I can (using BOSS, Wrye Bash, bashed patch) to make everything play nicely. I'm hoping someone can give me recommendations on something to try, or look at my mods and notice a problem that I am overlooking. Here they are:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]04  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]05  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]08  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]09  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0A  Weather Debug Ring.esp0B  Weather Debug Ring - SI.esp0C  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp0D  DS Time Manager.esp  [Version 1.1]0E  Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0F  Living Economy.esp10  Living Economy - Items.esp11  Cutthroat Merchants.esp12  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]13  Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp14  JSRandomTasks.esp  [Version 1.1a]15  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]16  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]17  gardening.esp18  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.1]19  Quest Award Leveling.esp1A  Quest Award Leveling SI.esp1B  Quest Award Leveling SI - no forged items.esp1C  Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp1D  Natural Hunger v2_1 by QF.esp1E  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]1F  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]20  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]21  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]22  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]23  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]24  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]25  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]26  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]27  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]28  Get Wet v0.92.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]29  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I also use QTP3 - redimized. My system is plenty strong enough to handle the game:
OS - Windows XP SP2
Proc - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3.28 GHZ
RAM: 4GB
Video card: Nvidia 8800 GTS 512

My video drivers I know are fine. So far, I haven't been able to attribute my freezing to any mod in particular, because it takes over an hour sometimes just for the freeze to occur. However, the freezing has happened with Imperial Furniture deactivated, so I suppose that means it is not the problem.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Considering a mod like the stutter remover seems to mess with the game directly to try and decrease stutter, I'm tempted to disable it next to see what happens.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:14 pm

This would be best in the mod forum, you will get more views their and you get people that know more about the mods. I will ask a mod to move it.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:35 pm

This would be best in the mod forum, you will get more views their and you get people that know more about the mods. I will ask a mod to move it.

Ok, thank you very much! I'll remember that for the future.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:52 pm

Not a Clue, I statred getting them Occasionally, but tend to think it's more of an OS thing... :unsure:
Not very minamal, but if it's any help,

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  VASE - core.esm08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  Better Cities Resources.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp10  Better Cities .esp11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FranDarkSeducerWeapFix.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  Fran Armor Add-on.esp17  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp18  FranOBSEConfig.esp  [Version 0.5]19  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1A  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1B  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1C  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1D  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp1E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.1.1]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]1F  P1DseeYouSleep.esp20  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.8]21  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]22  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.8]23  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]24  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp25  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp26  Adonnay's_Elven_Sabres-MOBS.esp27  Lost_Akiviri_Armor.esp++  RustyItems.esp**  Armamentium female.esp28  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]29  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2A  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp2B  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]2E  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]2F  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]30  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]31  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]32  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]33  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoSpiders.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]3A  MMM - Playable Undead Armors.esp  [Version 1.7]++  MMM - Playable Undead Armors - Oblivion WarCry Compatability Patch.esp  [Version 1.7]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp  [Version 2]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]**  Fransfemale.esp3B  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp3C  Akaviri Imports.esp3D  Amen'thalas.esp3E  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]3F  LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp40  LostSwordOfTheAylied - Claymore Add-On.esp41  LostSwordOfTheAylied - OBSE Add-On.esp42  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]43  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]44  Knights.esp45  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp46  The Lost Spires.esp47  Mighty Umbra.esp48  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]49  Blood&Mud.esp4A  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp4B  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp4C  MannimarcoComplete.esp4D  MannimarcoRevisited.esp4E  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  Gah Falquan Umarile.esp52  mythsandlegends.esp++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]54  CUO_Dwemer.esp55  CUO_FightersGuildContracts_SAFE.esp56  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp57  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]58  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]59  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]5A  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]5B  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]5C  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]5D  Enchant Arrows Spells.esp5E  Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp++  Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5F  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp60  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp61  IDKRRR_C_race.esp62  Chocolate Elves.esp63  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.2]++  1em_Vilja OOO FCOM Fix.esp64  Companion Neeshka.esp65  Sonia.esp66  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]++  cidnothump.esp++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]67  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp**  Better Cities Full.esp68  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp69  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp6A  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp6B  Better Imperial City.esp6C  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]++  Francesco's day lenght rescale 1-16.esp6D  Get Wet - just droplets.esp6E  Get Wet.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]6F  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]70  Bashed Patch, 01.esp71  FormID Finder4.esp72  kuerteeActorDetails.esp73  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]74  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:04 pm

Not a Clue, I statred getting them Occasionally, but tend to think it's more of an OS thing... :unsure:
Not very minamal, but if it's any help,

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  VASE - core.esm08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0C  Better Cities Resources.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  Shivering OOO.esp10  Better Cities .esp11  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FranDarkSeducerWeapFix.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  Fran Armor Add-on.esp17  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp18  FranOBSEConfig.esp  [Version 0.5]19  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1A  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1B  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1C  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp1D  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp1E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.1.1]++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]1F  P1DseeYouSleep.esp20  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.8]21  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.7]22  RAEVWD Imperial City.esp  [Version 1.8]23  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.4]24  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp25  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp26  Adonnay's_Elven_Sabres-MOBS.esp27  Lost_Akiviri_Armor.esp++  RustyItems.esp**  Armamentium female.esp28  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]29  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2A  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp2B  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]2E  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]2F  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]30  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]31  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]32  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]33  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderhardcoe.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]35  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_NoSpiders.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9]36  Mart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Adventurers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]3A  MMM - Playable Undead Armors.esp  [Version 1.7]++  MMM - Playable Undead Armors - Oblivion WarCry Compatability Patch.esp  [Version 1.7]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_ArcheryArmamentarium.esp  [Version 2]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]**  Fransfemale.esp3B  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp3C  Akaviri Imports.esp3D  Amen'thalas.esp3E  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]**  ArtifactsFemaleArmor.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]3F  LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp40  LostSwordOfTheAylied - Claymore Add-On.esp41  LostSwordOfTheAylied - OBSE Add-On.esp42  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]43  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]44  Knights.esp45  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp46  The Lost Spires.esp47  Mighty Umbra.esp48  Ungarion1TheWelkyndSword.esp  [Version 1.4]49  Blood&Mud.esp4A  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp4B  The Mystery of the Dulan cult.esp4C  MannimarcoComplete.esp4D  MannimarcoRevisited.esp4E  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4F  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_WelkyndSwordBlood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]50  FCOM_DulanCult.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  Gah Falquan Umarile.esp52  mythsandlegends.esp++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]53  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]54  CUO_Dwemer.esp55  CUO_FightersGuildContracts_SAFE.esp56  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp57  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]58  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]59  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]5A  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]5B  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]5C  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_UnlockSpells.esp  [Version 0.70]5D  Enchant Arrows Spells.esp5E  Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp++  Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5F  Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp60  _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp61  IDKRRR_C_race.esp62  Chocolate Elves.esp63  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.2]++  1em_Vilja OOO FCOM Fix.esp64  Companion Neeshka.esp65  Sonia.esp66  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]++  cidnothump.esp++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]67  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp**  Better Cities Full.esp68  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp69  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp6A  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp6B  Better Imperial City.esp6C  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]++  Francesco's day lenght rescale 1-16.esp6D  Get Wet - just droplets.esp6E  Get Wet.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]6F  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]70  Bashed Patch, 01.esp71  FormID Finder4.esp72  kuerteeActorDetails.esp73  Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp  [Version 0.2]74  Streamline 3.1.esp

I could see freezes being a little bit more likely for you. I don't know much about Windows 7, or how nicely it plays with Oblivion, but it seems to me like it might be a bit less friendly towards modded Oblivion than XP. You've also got more mods than me, and mods that touch more (MMM and FCOM, namely.)

About how often are you getting freezes? And are they freezes, or CTDs? And do they tend to happen in certain areas / situations?

I think I have only had crashes when I was out of doors, in the Imperial city or around it outside. But that's not saying much, because I just started a new character, so I haven't been anywhere else.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:50 pm

I just got finished doing a complete re-install of Oblivion, and have scaled my mods back to what I consider a very small list. My goal was to just run the mods I really wanted and couldn't live without, and to have as crash-free a game as possible.

Unfortunately, my game freezes after 1 - 3 hours of play. It doesn't CTD, the screen just freezes and the sound stutters until I manually restart my computer. This is frustrating me, because I have a small list of mods, the mods I use seem very well-made and stable, and I am doing everything I can (using BOSS, Wrye Bash, bashed patch) to make everything play nicely. I'm hoping someone can give me recommendations on something to try, or look at my mods and notice a problem that I am overlooking. Here they are:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]04  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]05  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]08  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]09  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0A  Weather Debug Ring.esp0B  Weather Debug Ring - SI.esp0C  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp0D  DS Time Manager.esp  [Version 1.1]0E  Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0F  Living Economy.esp10  Living Economy - Items.esp11  Cutthroat Merchants.esp12  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]13  Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp14  JSRandomTasks.esp  [Version 1.1a]15  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]16  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]17  gardening.esp18  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.1]19  Quest Award Leveling.esp1A  Quest Award Leveling SI.esp1B  Quest Award Leveling SI - no forged items.esp1C  Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp1D  Natural Hunger v2_1 by QF.esp1E  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]1F  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]20  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]21  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]22  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]23  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]24  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]25  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]26  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]27  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]28  Get Wet v0.92.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]29  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

I also use QTP3 - redimized. My system is plenty strong enough to handle the game:
OS - Windows XP SP2
Proc - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3.28 GHZ
RAM: 4GB
Video card: Nvidia 8800 GTS 512

My video drivers I know are fine. So far, I haven't been able to attribute my freezing to any mod in particular, because it takes over an hour sometimes just for the freeze to occur. However, the freezing has happened with Imperial Furniture deactivated, so I suppose that means it is not the problem.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Considering a mod like the stutter remover seems to mess with the game directly to try and decrease stutter, I'm tempted to disable it next to see what happens.

Do you use Oblivion stutter remover. It helps some things you can do
1 Remove UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] This can be done using bashed patch which I see in you LO
2 are you at about 230 +++ Hours game play I have had this problem my self when I got in that time frame for no reason what so ever I would have sound stutter and visual stutter it would take about 1.5 minutes for a door to slide open in a dungeon. I used http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23208 to resolve the Issue.
3 OOO is not upto date you are on 1.33 they are on 1.34.5 Not a big change but it may help.
Also do you use boss.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:48 pm

Are you using the patched version of Quest Award Leveling?
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=12032

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:14 pm

I just got finished doing a complete re-install of Oblivion, and have scaled my mods back to what I consider a very small list. My goal was to just run the mods I really wanted and couldn't live without, and to have as crash-free a game as possible.

Unfortunately, my game freezes after 1 - 3 hours of play. It doesn't CTD, the screen just freezes and the sound stutters until I manually restart my computer. This is frustrating me, because I have a small list of mods, the mods I use seem very well-made and stable, and I am doing everything I can (using BOSS, Wrye Bash, bashed patch) to make everything play nicely. I'm hoping someone can give me recommendations on something to try, or look at my mods and notice a problem that I am overlooking. Here they are: ...

What Zornac said:

02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33] - Update to 1.34 Beta 5 as said.
03 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0] - Update to the latest release - I'm using [Version 3.2.8].
04 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Skip. Use the Bashed Patch option instead.
05 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp - Skip. Probably not needed.

0E Purge Cell Buffers - Loading.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Have you tried without this? Seems an unlikely candidate but I'd try w/o it to make sure.

12 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33] - Update to 1.34 Beta 5 as said.

28 Get Wet v0.92.esp - Perhaps you've counted this one out as it happens in sunny weather as well? Anyway, not using it myself so no idea but I'd try w/o it.

I also use QTP3 - redimized. My system is plenty strong enough to handle the game:
OS - Windows XP SP2
Proc - Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 @ 3.28 GHZ
RAM: 4GB
Video card: Nvidia 8800 GTS 512

My video drivers I know are fine. So far, I haven't been able to attribute my freezing to any mod in particular, because it takes over an hour sometimes just for the freeze to occur. However, the freezing has happened with Imperial Furniture deactivated, so I suppose that means it is not the problem.

Does anyone have any suggestions? Considering a mod like the stutter remover seems to mess with the game directly to try and decrease stutter, I'm tempted to disable it next to see what happens.

And, yes, try http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23208. I have frankly not noticed any difference with it (with no HeapMode), but it doesn't seem to hurt either.

Basically it seems to be overload related as you run into the freezes solely after playing for +1 hours.

There's a http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php, but I think that's for x64 systems? And I don't know much about either as I only have 1 GB so I have no use for it. Someone else has to point to the thread dealing with this - and not sure if it's applicable in your case either as said.

The sound stuttering might of course be a sideeffect of the game freezing in the first place, but I'd double check Direct X and sound card drivers as well as sound settings.

Also, generally, make sure that no background processes are interfering (clean boot or similar), that the drive is defragged, that the registry is cleaned etc., but I guess you already know that. Oblivion is a high maintenance game.

» Sat May 28, 2011 1:48 pm

I'd also look at removing Purge Cell Buffers. Plugins like that can be a problem on some systems. They seem to do wonders for some but play havoc with others. The 4GB patch is only for 64 bit OS. If you're running with the latest All Natural (there's a 2nd fix pack beyond 0.9.9.5), I'd say you can rid of the Weather Debug rings too. I think they sorted most of the issues with fix pack 2.

I also recommend OSR (as listed above). You could try the heap management, but it could cause issues on some systems. If you find you're getting CTD's, then try changing the heap algorithm or disabling heap. I'd play with the different algorithms before disabling heap management though, because if you can get it running, it does wonders. When I was running XP, I found algorithm 1 worked the best, but most seem to find 5 works best. Now that I've upgraded to Win 7, I'll probably have to experiment all over again

There's an explanation of all this in the readme and in the ini.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:49 pm

Ok guys, thanks for all of your advice. Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you.

As of right now, I am still having this problem, only it sometimes happens after as little as 30 minutes of play. So far these freezes always occur when I am outside. It is a complete computer freeze, requiring a manual reset of my computer, which I don't really like doing over and over. The screen freezes completely, and the sound freezes, repeating the last sound or bit of music over and over, where it sounds like one long stutter. Oddly enough, sometimes the sound actually resumes like normal, though the screen never does and the computer always remains completely unresponsive.

Here's what I've changed since I started this thread:

- Actually installed Oblivion Stutter Remover correctly. I thought I had it installed before, but I was wrong. I've played around with different settings, mostly having to do with heap management. But seeing as it didn't seem to fix my problem, I've disabled the heap management, as that seems a "safer" and more stable way to run while I try to check other things.

- Removed Purge Cell Buffers

- Updated OOO from 1.33 to 1.34 beta

- Disabled Get Wet, simply because someone else mentioned it and it isn't one of my "critical" mods.

- Disabled Imperial furniture, but re-enabled it after the freeze still continued to occur.

- I have not yet applied the patch for Quest Award Leveling because it seems the problems it can cause are CTDs when trying to save, which is not my kind of problem. I plan to eventually do this, however.

- Updated UOP, and got rid of the individual fixes that I had installed that other people told me to get rid of.

That being said, this is now my load order:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]04  DLCShiveringIsles.esp05  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]06  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]07  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]08  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp09  DS Time Manager.esp  [Version 1.1]0A  Living Economy.esp0B  Living Economy - Items.esp0C  Cutthroat Merchants.esp0D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]0E  Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp0F  JSRandomTasks.esp  [Version 1.1a]10  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]11  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]12  gardening.esp13  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.1]14  Quest Award Leveling.esp15  Quest Award Leveling SI.esp16  Quest Award Leveling SI - no forged items.esp17  Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp18  Natural Hunger v2_1 by QF.esp19  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]1A  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]1B  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1C  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1D  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1E  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1F  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]20  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]21  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]22  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]23  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Here is some more information about my game:

- I'm only at around 7 hours of play time.

- My HDD has been defragged, registry checked and cleaned, and video drivers re-installed.

- I don't have any background applications running when I play, other than simple things like CoreTemp.

- All of my computer "vitals" are good when I play. Temperatures for everything are very good, my CPU usage is never too high, and my total RAM usage is usually between 40% - 48%. It is usually around 20% when my computer is not doing anything, so it seems Oblivion increases its ram usage by 28%, which is a little under 1 Gig of the 3.5 Gigs of RAM my computer sees. This number actually seems a little low to me, considering what I've read, but shows that Oblivion isn't trying to use too much memory.

- All Natural is updated with the hotfix, though i think i did it in an unconventional way. When installing All Natural, I replaced the original .esp with the hotfix version. it seems to me like that should do the same thing as installing the hotfix later and having it overwrite the original, but if it's not, someone let me know and i'll go back and do it that way.

- As always, I regularly rebuild my bashed patch, and I plan on checking the save for bloat soon - just in case.

That's all I can think of. Sorry this is so long and detailed, but I figure too much information at least keeps people from wasting their time trying to figure out something that they don't need to. I haven't gone about disabling mods yet and testing, simply because I know it will take a very long while and I've already put a lot of time into getting Oblivion set up once again. I also have mostly big-fix mods that I'm not too excited about trying to disable and play for a while without. Plus I start back to school soon, and I was hoping I would get some time to play the game instead of work on it. :brokencomputer:

I know I know - Oblivion's a persnickety old beast that is always very desperate for attention. :wink_smile:

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:44 pm

Ok guys, thanks for all of your advice. Sorry it has taken so long to get back to you.

As of right now, I am still having this problem, only it sometimes happens after as little as 30 minutes of play. So far these freezes always occur when I am outside. It is a complete computer freeze, requiring a manual reset of my computer, which I don't really like doing over and over. The screen freezes completely, and the sound freezes, repeating the last sound or bit of music over and over, where it sounds like one long stutter. Oddly enough, sometimes the sound actually resumes like normal, though the screen never does and the computer always remains completely unresponsive.

Here's what I've changed since I started this thread:

- Actually installed Oblivion Stutter Remover correctly. I thought I had it installed before, but I was wrong. I've played around with different settings, mostly having to do with heap management. But seeing as it didn't seem to fix my problem, I've disabled the heap management, as that seems a "safer" and more stable way to run while I try to check other things.

- Removed Purge Cell Buffers

- Updated OOO from 1.33 to 1.34 beta

- Disabled Get Wet, simply because someone else mentioned it and it isn't one of my "critical" mods.

- Disabled Imperial furniture, but re-enabled it after the freeze still continued to occur.

- I have not yet applied the patch for Quest Award Leveling because it seems the problems it can cause are CTDs when trying to save, which is not my kind of problem. I plan to eventually do this, however.

- Updated UOP, and got rid of the individual fixes that I had installed that other people told me to get rid of.

That being said, this is now my load order:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]04  DLCShiveringIsles.esp05  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]06  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]07  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]08  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp09  DS Time Manager.esp  [Version 1.1]0A  Living Economy.esp0B  Living Economy - Items.esp0C  Cutthroat Merchants.esp0D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]0E  Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp0F  JSRandomTasks.esp  [Version 1.1a]10  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]11  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]12  gardening.esp13  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.1]14  Quest Award Leveling.esp15  Quest Award Leveling SI.esp16  Quest Award Leveling SI - no forged items.esp17  Quest Award Leveling - Finger of the Mountain.esp18  Natural Hunger v2_1 by QF.esp19  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]1A  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]1B  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1C  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1D  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1E  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]1F  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]20  bgMagicAlchemy.esp  [Version 1.57]21  bgMagicPotionNumberSoulGemValue.esp  [Version 1.68UV]22  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]23  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Here is some more information about my game:

- I'm only at around 7 hours of play time.

- My HDD has been defragged, registry checked and cleaned, and video drivers re-installed.

- I don't have any background applications running when I play, other than simple things like CoreTemp.

- All of my computer "vitals" are good when I play. Temperatures for everything are very good, my CPU usage is never too high, and my total RAM usage is usually between 40% - 48%. It is usually around 20% when my computer is not doing anything, so it seems Oblivion increases its ram usage by 28%, which is a little under 1 Gig of the 3.5 Gigs of RAM my computer sees. This number actually seems a little low to me, considering what I've read, but shows that Oblivion isn't trying to use too much memory.

- All Natural is updated with the hotfix, though i think i did it in an unconventional way. When installing All Natural, I replaced the original .esp with the hotfix version. it seems to me like that should do the same thing as installing the hotfix later and having it overwrite the original, but if it's not, someone let me know and i'll go back and do it that way.

- As always, I regularly rebuild my bashed patch, and I plan on checking the save for bloat soon - just in case.

That's all I can think of. Sorry this is so long and detailed, but I figure too much information at least keeps people from wasting their time trying to figure out something that they don't need to. I haven't gone about disabling mods yet and testing, simply because I know it will take a very long while and I've already put a lot of time into getting Oblivion set up once again. I also have mostly big-fix mods that I'm not too excited about trying to disable and play for a while without. Plus I start back to school soon, and I was hoping I would get some time to play the game instead of work on it. :brokencomputer:

I know I know - Oblivion's a persnickety old beast that is always very desperate for attention. :wink_smile:

Instead of using Living Economy, I would recommend using Enhanced Economy. Its basically a better version of Living Economy.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:16 am

Instead of using Living Economy, I would recommend using Enhanced Economy. Its basically a better version of Living Economy.

Ok, I'll look into that, thanks. Is it better simply in terms of how it affects the game, or is it more stable than Living Economy?

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:23 pm

I know this might not be what you want to hear but if you're entire computer freezes (i.e. cant escape even using ctrl alt delete) then it might be something not related to mods! You do have a very nice computer, but you're problem seems pretty menacing!

Make sure you have all the latest drivers from Intel and Nvidia. I wish i could help, but with that tiny load order, i find i hard to believe it's mod related! (as most mod related crashes/freezes happen in a specific spot/when a specific creature appears) And especially since it's only after an hr + game time...

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:46 pm

I could see freezes being a little bit more likely for you. I don't know much about Windows 7, or how nicely it plays with Oblivion, but it seems to me like it might be a bit less friendly towards modded Oblivion than XP. You've also got more mods than me, and mods that touch more (MMM and FCOM, namely.)

About how often are you getting freezes? And are they freezes, or CTDs? And do they tend to happen in certain areas / situations?

I think I have only had crashes when I was out of doors, in the Imperial city or around it outside. But that's not saying much, because I just started a new character, so I haven't been anywhere else.

I Was only getting a Freeze once every couple of days, I've started getting Crashes now. and earlier today, my system went dead (Keyboard, Mouse And Video (That's a first)) it almost seems to be connected to Streamline's Streamsave, every time Streamsave makes a save, the screen freezes for a few seconds, and I never know if it's a save or freeze... and the freezes, when they Do occur, seem to be around the 10min. save interval...
I never noticed any paticular pattern to it freezeing, amd I never really know if I wait long enough it Might come back.

I ran into some Major Stutter lastnight, came up to Bravil, and it started slowing down, by the time I got to the Moat, and jumped in the water, I was at ~1-5 frames/Minute, thought I'd be smart, saved quit and reloaded, and No improvement??

I'm not currently using OSR, ~~Streamline is set for just purges and saves, no Smoothing~~, I don't really think it's Streamline, but I Am using a Raid array, if That might be a factor

Also, I have Bluetooth keyboard/mouse with Logitech Setpoint software.(I'm pretty sure I've had the same problems with it disabled though)
(I will occsionally lose functions of my mouse, and have to reset it)

I've been watching my System stats with http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html and do not run anywhere close to stress

*typos

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:07 am

I know this might not be what you want to hear but if you're entire computer freezes (i.e. cant escape even using ctrl alt delete) then it might be something not related to mods! You do have a very nice computer, but you're problem seems pretty menacing!

Make sure you have all the latest drivers from Intel and Nvidia. I wish i could help, but with that tiny load order, i find i hard to believe it's mod related! (as most mod related crashes/freezes happen in a specific spot/when a specific creature appears) And especially since it's only after an hr + game time...

Yeah, it's not what I want to hear, but it's a possibility that has definitely been on my mind, for the reason you said - I have a very small load order, filled with pretty safe and stable mods, and my problem is very generic. That makes it a little hard for me to believe that it's any mod in particular, but hey, who knows?

What makes me believe it may not be my system in general is that I only experience this problem in Oblivion. Other games (Fallout 3, The Sims 3, Portal, Half Life 2) all run without a hitch, and my computer doesn't freeze up when just sitting or browsing the internet or anything.

My drivers are the ones that shipped with my card back in '08. I know that's old, but my experience has been better with them than any newer drivers from Nvidia, and Oblivion at one point ran like butter on them. So I'm not inclined to look at them - yet.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:28 pm

That makes it a little hard for me to believe that it's any mod in particular, but hey, who knows?

Then again, sometimes it's just an unlikely combination of mods... :shrug: but that still wouldn't explain why you would have to do a hard reboot of your system... My game (which is there is pretty much no trace of vanilla left lol) crashes plenty, but it's nothing ctrl alt delete cant fix which worries me about your problem... Has Oblivion always done this...? or is this a recent problem...?

And what always works for me is take out a few related mods at a time, and play for a while and see if the problem persists, and if it does, then put back the few mods you've taken out and take out a few more related mods. Just keep cutting down your load order until the problem is solved! :goodjob:

Also, in my experience, All Natural has caused a freezing/crashing problem with my game, but I use it anyway because it's such a brilliant mod! That seems to be the only suspicious character in your load order that i can spot... :shrug:

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:11 pm

Then again, sometimes it's just an unlikely combination of mods... :shrug: but that still wouldn't explain why you would have to do a hard reboot of your system... My game (which is there is pretty much no trace of vanilla left lol) crashes plenty, but it's nothing ctrl alt delete can fix which worries me about your problem... Has Oblivion always done this...? or is this a recent problem...?

And what always works for me is take out a few related mods at a time, and play for a while and see if the problem persists, and if it does, then put back the few mods you've taken out and take out a few more related mods. Just keep cutting down your load order until the problem is solved! :goodjob:

Also, in my experience, All Natural has caused a freezing/crashing problem with my game, but I use it anyway because it's such a brilliant mod! That seems to be the only suspicious character in your load order that i can spot... :shrug:

Well, it has done this before. I was playing the game regularly about 7 - 8 months ago, and I had a very heavily modded game. I didn't really pay attention to what i was doing, didn't worry or know much about things like bashed patches, and just kind of threw mods together with OBMM and bossed it sometimes. Sometimes it ran fine, then sometimes it developed this problem. If I went through and deleted several mods, a lot of times that would fix it, but I never tracked down what was specifically causing the problem. When I decided to play again, I figured a complete re-install with just the bare minimum of mods would be an easy, safe bet. :whistling:

All Natural will probably be where I start working first. It seems to me like it could be the most likely culprit, only because it makes such a sweeping change to the game. If it is what's causing the problem...I'm not sure what I will do. I don't like these freezes, but I really don't want to play Oblivion without it. Guess I'll figure that out when I get there!

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:51 am

I Was only getting a Freeze once every couple of days, I've started getting Crashes now. and earlier today, my system went dead (Keyboard, Mouse And Video (That's a first)) it almost seems to be connected to Streamline's Streamsave, every time Streamsave makes a save, the screen freezes for a few seconds, and I never know if it's a save or freeze... and the freezes, when they Do occur, seem to be around the 10min. save interval...
I never noticed any paticular pattern to it freezeing, amd I never really know if I wait long enough it Might come back.

I ran into some Major Stutter lastnight, came up to Bravil, and it started slowing down, by the time I got to the Moat, and jumped in the water, I was at ~1-5 frames/Minute, thought I'd be smart, saved quit and reloaded, and No improvement??

I'm not currently using OSR, ~~Streamline is set for just purges and saves, no Smoothing~~, I don't really think it's Streamline, but I Am using a Raid array, if That might be a factor

Also, I have Bluetooth keyboard/mouse with Logitech Setpoint software.(I'm pretty sure I've had the same problems with it disabled though)
(I will occsionally lose functions of my mouse, and have to reset it)

I've been watching my System stats with http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html and do not run anywhere close to stress

*typos

I wish mine would go from freezes to crashes. :facepalm: I can handle saving often and restarting the game, but I don't like manually restarting my computer.

It also sounds like you have a lot of factors playing into it, like Streamline. I don't have a bluetooth keyboard, but I am using Setpoint with my mouse, a logitech rollerball. I think it's called a "Marble" or something like that. But I haven't had problems with mouse or keyboard. Just the whole system, freezing.

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:04 pm

All Natural will probably be where I start working first. It seems to me like it could be the most likely culprit, only because it makes such a sweeping change to the game. If it is what's causing the problem...I'm not sure what I will do. I don't like these freezes, but I really don't want to play Oblivion without it. Guess I'll figure that out when I get there!

Maybe you could try a less intrusive weather mod...? (if that is the culprit) I know, again, that might not be what you want to hear but having a mod you love that destroys the game is kinda pointless!

Not sure of any other weather mods off the top of my head, but im sure a quick search on the Nexus could be fruitful!

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:21 am

Maybe you could try a less intrusive weather mod...? (if that is the culprit) I know, again, that might not be what you want to hear but having a mod you love that destroys the game is kinda pointless!

Not sure of any other weather mods off the top of my head, but im sure a quick search on the Nexus could be fruitful!

I'm sure it would! It'll probably be a long time before I get there, however. If All natural does eventually seem to be what's giving me problems, you can bet I'll be trying everything I can to change .ini settings and the like to see if I can't stumble upon something that works. :goodjob: I could also post on the All Natural thread, if it does turn out to be the problem. Those guys are crazy helpful.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:27 pm

Ok, I'll look into that, thanks. Is it better simply in terms of how it affects the game, or is it more stable than Living Economy?

Its both. It fixes bugs like the 64K bug but it also adds lots of interesting features. It's also constantly updates whereas Living Economy is not.

You can turn off any features you don't like because it is fully customizable.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1100653-relz-enhanced-economy/page__hl__Enhanced%20economy

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:46 pm

Its both. It fixes bugs like the 64K bug but it also adds lots of interesting features. It's also constantly updates whereas Living Economy is not.

You can turn off any features you don't like because it is fully customizable.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1100653-relz-enhanced-economy/page__hl__Enhanced%20economy

Thanks a lot for pointing that out then! I'll replace Living Economy with Enhanced Economy first. It could potentially be my problem, and even if it isn't, I still wind up with a better mod that does the same thing or more.