Again, I want them to take two extra years on developing an engine SPECIFICALLY for Fallout. I think its nice that TES is getting a new engine, I really do, but what works for TES doesn't necessarily work for Fallout.

So, at least I suspected right. But anyways, that leaves them guaranteed free hands for at least one game.



I can only agree. Though I'm already seeing the headlines: "Fallout 4 uses a slightly modified version of the Creation Engine first seen in TES 5: Skyrim - G4TV faps ferociously with [insert name] over the subject". Still, there is a .001% chance that they optimized their enginge to be flexible ebough to handle at least slightly de-TES-ified Fallout 4.

I thought 1 and 2 where awsome 3 was crap nv is awsome bethesda games are horible

Indeed. Bethesda didn't "lived up" anything. They just heavily modified a game they already had to look like Fallout.

Still, I think it's high time for Interplay to roll over and die. Their glory years are long over, and have ended since they shut down Black Isle Studios.

oy vey...FO3 was crap ?? well obviously sandbox/openworld games aren't you're thing then, cause nobody makes open world games better than bethesda as far as i'm concerned, you're not gonna like FO4 then either cause bethesda is gonna be making it, thank god, especially after that ridiculous cowboy themed desert, since when is fallout a cowboy game? it didn't even have any ratpack music in it really. so new vegas was a big blunder and most people know it, the map was so static its not even funny, not one random event happens on the entire map and most of the map is just a lifeless boring desert, so not everyone thinks new vegas was a great game, it was ok. thats about it, fun to play a couple times then on to something else.

You sure do preach a lot about something that is relatively low priority in New Vegas, and Fallout in general. Fallout != TES. Quit looking at it like one.

+100

Bethesda just bought the series for be the high bidder




This the new logic I guess,

sad, really sad :sadvaultboy:

the own the franchise outright, but i think if interplay didn't get to make a mmo then it would be they are only allowed to make 3 games, but they own the franchise outright, they bought it, i'm sure its gonna get sorted out.

Quite frankly, it's pissing me off. The TES fans are looking at Fallout as a whole new franchise just for them, and it's not. I don't care about exploration in Fallout. I don't care about pretty graphics. I care about a logically presented world that offers a good story that leaves me thinking.

Don't get me wrong, I like TES. I don't like it how Fallout is apparently now a spin-off series for TES.

i tyierd of hearing about fallout 3 being terrible but it was bethesdas frist try at fallout and it was great and im not saying that fallout 1 and fallout 2 and tactics was bad cuz i think there great but they had there flaws like 3 and vegas witch was also goodish but im confidant that bethesda will do better with 4 and interplay is whay to small to get back the fallout rights

This

Fallout=/=TES
TES=/=Fallout

Agreed. And if history were different and Interplay/ Obsidian bought TES then I wouldn't want it to be like Fallout.

Fallout != TES
TES != Fallout

:fallout: all their games offer tons of exploration, oblivion had loads of it, just like FO3, and FO4, gonna be tons of dungeons to explore, its what they do, its one of their trademarks, its one of the reasons their games are so popular, as far as the stories, the stories are fine, its not like new vegas has the best story in the world, it was about the same as FO3's story, i don't care about the story actually, as long as there are good dungeons and enemies to fight, the story takes a backseat as far as i'm concerned. and this idea about everything making sense, these games are about fantasy, if everything had to make perfect sense, that makes for one dull game, cause realism isn't very exciting, and everything having to be believable isn't what bethesda games are about, come on, oblivion had faires, ogres, giants to fight, magic power, etc, i get tired of hearing people say everything has to make sense or be believable, maybe obsidian makes games like that but bethesda doesn't, and thats why their games are fun to play. believable=no fun

I really do hope Bethesda steps on Interplay hard; Bethesda revived the series and made it great again, and Interplay messing with that is simply infuriating. Hope they get smacked down hard; anything endangering the future creation of Fallout games is no good by me.

Personally, I'd expect FO4 sometime in 2012; doubt they'll be working too hard to get it out anytime before Skyrim is released.

I've played both Bethesda Fallout games but have yet to play a TES game; Fallout is hardly a subordinate game to the TES series. Just look at the myriad of awards Fallout 3 and New Vegas won; they speak for themselves. Fallout stands on its own two legs without any issues, and easily matches TES in reputation as a gaming franchise; both pre-and-post revival.

Just because it is a trademark is TES doesnt mean it is a trademark of Fallout, they are completely different game series'.

If they showed anything, gameplay would be out of the question, something more along the lines of a teaser. You know.... some sand, maybe a landmark, the logo and the year it would come out (for example:2013)

I keep telling Fallout 3/ TES fans this, and they don't listen. I don't give a damn if it worked for TES. I don't give a damn if it's how they made TES. I don't give a flying [censored] if TES and Fallout 3 were successful, because so was Fallout 1 and 2. FALLOUT AND TES ARE DIFFERENT SERIES AND SHOULD REMAIN SO.

Exactly, exactly, I couldnt agree more. You know, a lot of people have barked at me for my comments on Fallout while I am a fan of Talon Company, but always retort high ratings when i approach them with the bad writing.

they own the franchise outright, the 3 game deal is only if interplay doens't get to make a fallout mmo, but bethesda could just make their own post apocalyptic franchise anyway, with a different name, different factions, different creatures etc, they could make a brand new game all their own and not even need it to be called fallout.

Thats pretty much what they did in Fallout 3, but they still called it Fallout, that is why we (the old school fans) were mad, they made the BoS a bunch of hippies and revived the Enclave and made them cannon fodder, and coupled it all together with a linear storyline and, count 'em, almost no faction interactions!

Wait, so are people suggesting they'd rather Fallout 3 not have such a strong exploration aspect? Seems a little silly.

I mean, I get the other complaints leveled at Fallout 3, but complaining that Bethesda applied their world-building expertise?

No its just that people use it as an excuse for all the other bad things, when it is not a a key characteristic of Fallout, which they claim, and then they complain when NV wasnt centric on prancin about with ya head full of eyeballs.

IM [censored] CONFUSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did anyone who worked on fallout 3 evens play 1 and 2 it seems like they just threw in random crap and only a few Fractionsfrom 2