And in Fallout 3 it does? If it did, the population of the Capital Wasteland would be around 700 human souls, and Vault 101 having only 16 people living there.

Since there are no marks of bases outside Navarro, it's not very reasonable to claim there are some. It would be possible of course, but since nobody in the game hints that way and if does, the hint is that there was not supposed to be bases in "up north", and Richardson talks only about Navarro, which anyway was a brand new base.


Nobody. I was, as you noticed, just making a point. Making a point that it is of no use to poke at the apparently large manpower of the East Coast Enclave when in California they breed extremely fast and in huge quantities, even after their base blew up.




Yes that is very clear. Yet the Enclave has "recruiting" as their official image. Calling people to join the joys of slavery wouldn't get much support.
I have falled from the wheel of "point of discussion" in this case anyway. How did this have anything to do with bashing Fallout 3 again?

Come now, he's a big boy, I'm sure he can take a little ribbing without getting his feelings hurt. And I only meant it as hyperbole in the first place. I obviously don't actually think he ever said that...

Hyperbole, maybe, but what on earth was the point in it?

Just that's kind of what it seems like, from my end.

Hey, it's nit-picking. I'll be the first to admit that. Am I losing any sleep over not being able to uncover the mystery of Jet in Fallout 3? No. Did I throw the disc out my computer and vow to never play it again? Absolutely not.

But it's just one of those things... Jet didn't have to be in the game. None of the "Vets" would have spent any time walking around going "Where's the Jet? It's not Fallout unless this very specific drug that played a minor role in Fallout 2 is in this game!" And none of the new players would have even known that anything was "missing." In my playthrough of Fallout 2 - I shut down that whole operation. Not only does it feel a little odd to me that there's Jet in the East Coast, I don't see why it should be anywhere, even.

Can I accept it on faith that there's a very good reason for it's continued existance in Fallout 3? I suppose so. None of the rationalizations I've heard really seem all that far-fetched. But it's not the same as Bethesda taking a moment to fill in the blanks. It's like playing MadLibs with one of the words already filled in. Someone, somewhere, at Bethesda had to have said at some point "Let's put Jet in the game as one of the drugs." But either no one also said "Hey, let's maybe give some clues as to what it's doing there," or it was just overlooked. I can accept that as well. They're only human, and it's a small point to be sure. But I don't think it's ideal, either.

But it's still there. Like I said, it's nit-picking. This game has been out for how many months now? That's really all that's left to do at this point, anyway.

It seems the post limit has arrived.