So Fallout 1, 2 and Tactics are on a sale on Steam, does the Steam version of these work properly? I want to buy them on Steam so I know for sure I got them as the disc I have for the collection could scratch of something but I dunno if this version through Steam is going to be modable with things like Restoration Project and other total conversion mods.

Steam does not stop mods in and of itself. So, I see no reason as to why these games won't work.

What will get you into trouble is having Steam in either Program Files or Program Files (X86). The UAC will barf all over these games. Move your Steam install to a non UAC folder, or make a new folder that is not controlled by the UAC and add it to Steam as a Library. The first is the best way to do that, and moving Steam is pretty easy.

BTW, how long is this sale for? A day? I would like to get these games on Steam so I don't have to deal with the disks anymore.

UAC?

Universal or Uniform or Uninformed or Useless Account Control (pick what ever first word you want) It stops unauthorized changes to the Program Files or Windows directory. These being DOS games, that is how they work, by changing and writing files to the install directory.

Since you may not have seen the question, how long is the sale for?

Aren't you better off with the gog versions?

I also thought that the steam version was the same as the fallout collection on disc with the gog being "ready to play"?

Can't buy from GoG.

1. Okay.

2. 47 hours. (It's a Daily Deal. (On that note, maybe you could change the thread title to [Steam - Daily Deal] Fallout Collection))

Because I don't have any way of paying for it there, only way I can add money to the Steam wallet is by using a friend's credit card.

I suppose I could do the same for GoG but I don't buy stuff from there so I haven't had any reason to try.

Don't know if my friend would be okay with using his card there either.

Just ask any friend to gift it to you from GoG and pay them back.

**If you backed Wasteland2 or Torment, then you should have a Wasteland 1 gift code for Steam or Gog (or two). Perhaps you could trade them for another gift code.

... I can't imagine playing Fallout 1 or 2 with a steamwrapper; or FO3.

1. None of my friends uses GoG though and only one of them is capable of using a credit card (the rest are clueless in how to use it or they never have money as they spend it all on alcohol (Yes, I'm friends with future alcoholics...)).

2. I never had any way to fund those games back then so I will have to wait for their release to buy them.

I can throw you a digital WL 2 once it's released, if you want. I'm getting a couple of spare copies from my pledges and I'm not sure if I have use for them all.

I'd love that.

I'm not sure about the Steam version, but the GOG version has the 'no kids' patch.

What none at all?

Yeah

You can install mods to bring them back though.

The EU version had kids cut out (it was also bugged in some cases, so that you could see floating texts over where the kids should've been; and few quests were broken...).

Ask around when it's released, I'll bumb a Steam code to you (if it works like that).

(Lives in Europe)

... Maybe I should just take good care of my Collection disc...

Is this just for the steam version?I can understand to an extent but it seems a little too PC to just remove kids because they can be kil.... and so on (i'm guessing this is against the forum rules to discuss this?).

The GoG version has waaay too many stray dogs in Shady sands prior to a restore patch from NMA..

Again without calling it out directly what's your opinion on the whole kid situation and them being replaced by dogs for reasons that can't be stated?

Ive played Fallout 1 and 2 on Steam, and there isnt any of that EU no kids stuff on the Steam version. Ive also run mods for Fallout 2 and they've worked fine.

I needed to install the High Resolution Patch to get both 1 and 2 to work on my hyper advanced 64 bit machine that people in 1996 couldnt possibly comprehend, though.

It's censorship and in this case it also makes for a defective product; meaning that they are willingly selling a defective product.

*Steam does this a lot; they will sell you a game that cannot run on your machine... but in their case, they have a client APP on the machine that can query the hardware and would conceivably allow them to provide a warning to the consumer prior to getting their money ~but they don't...

Take Bloodlines for instance... The game doesn't run on machines with 4GB ram or greater. Steam's official "Help" for me was instructions to cripple my RAM permanently via the boot.ini file.

(And yet it took 5 minutes to find a user patch to correct it. I had paid for it, and then had to resort to a suspect mystery patch to actually use what I'd paid for.)

I don't like Steam very much.

Oh christ, so that's what I was tackling with after updating my rig...

Odd I run it just fine with 8 gb of ram with no tweaks that I know of. Unless the tweak came with the fan patch I'm using. Also I'm using -heapsize 800000 in the game's shortcut, but that probably is only helping it use more ram.

Likely different OS, but that is surely something available to the Steam client. They should keep track of issues with what they sell and at least mention it to prospective

customers before they pay for it. It's possible they might buy it on a laptop, planning to use it on a desktop ~sure, but no mention of known issues until after you buy?

That's slippery IMO.

I might increase the Heap on my own shortcut.

At the time I had 8Gb, but now I use 12, and all I got from Valve was a note telling how to use /maxmem 2048 [mb].