Fallout 4 crash in specific area : Fallout 4

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:12 am

I'm having a issue getting ANYWHERE NEAR the CIT building. Including the police station where the BOS is located at. Whenever I get anywhere near the town it decides to CTD on me.

Papyrus log follows,

[11/20/2015 - 07:20:25PM] Papyrus log opened (PC-64)[11/20/2015 - 07:20:25PM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)[11/20/2015 - 07:20:25PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 153600 (max total)[11/20/2015 - 07:20:25PM] Maximum stack depth: 100[11/20/2015 - 07:20:25PM] This is a script log only and does not contain information on any other part of the game, including crashes.[11/20/2015 - 07:20:38PM] VM is freezing...[11/20/2015 - 07:20:38PM] VM is frozen[11/20/2015 - 07:20:38PM] Reverting game...[11/20/2015 - 07:21:13PM] Loading game...[11/20/2015 - 07:21:23PM] VM is thawing...[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (00183C8F): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.stack:	[ (00183C8F)].AttractionObjectScript.Enable() - "" Line ?	[ (00183C8F)].AttractionObjectScript.OnLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (00183C8E): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.stack:	[ (00183C8E)].AttractionObjectScript.Enable() - "" Line ?	[ (00183C8E)].AttractionObjectScript.OnLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (00183C93): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.stack:	[ (00183C93)].AttractionObjectScript.Enable() - "" Line ?	[ (00183C93)].AttractionObjectScript.OnLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (00183C94): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.stack:	[ (00183C94)].AttractionObjectScript.Enable() - "" Line ?	[ (00183C94)].AttractionObjectScript.OnLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (00183C95): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.stack:	[ (00183C95)].AttractionObjectScript.Enable() - "" Line ?	[ (00183C95)].AttractionObjectScript.OnLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (00183C96): cannot enable an object with an enable state parent.stack:	[ (00183C96)].AttractionObjectScript.Enable() - "" Line ?	[ (00183C96)].AttractionObjectScript.OnLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (0003D6BE): the animation graph (SpecialCaseDoors) cannot currently process event "Close".stack:	[ (0003D6BE)].Default2StateActivator.PlayAnimationAndWait() - "" Line ?	[ (0003D6BE)].Default2StateActivator.SetDefaultState() - "" Line ?	[ (0003D6BE)].Default2StateActivator.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error: Unable to call SetValue - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:	[ (001079C9)].MasterAmbushActorScript.SetValue() - "" Line ?	[ (001079C9)].MasterAmbushActorScript.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error: Unable to call GetTargetActor - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:	[None].SentryBotFaceLightScript.GetTargetActor() - "" Line ?	[None].SentryBotFaceLightScript.lightWorking.OnEffectFinish() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error: Attempting to stop an invalid sound instancestack:	.Sound.StopInstance() - "" Line ?	[None].SentryBotOverheatFXScript.OnEffectFinish() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (001C69B7): the animation graph (TRAP) cannot currently process event "Reset".stack:	[ (001C69B7)].traptripwire.PlayAnimation() - "" Line ?	[ (001C69B7)].traptripwire.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error: Unable to call SetValue - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:	[ (001079C9)].MasterAmbushActorScript.SetValue() - "" Line ?	[ (001079C9)].MasterAmbushActorScript.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error: Cannot stop a visual effect on a None objectstack:	[ (0024056F)].VisualEffect.Stop() - "" Line ?	[None].SentryBotFaceLightScript.lightWorking.OnEffectFinish() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error: Unable to call EvaluatePackage - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:	[ (001079C9)].MasterAmbushActorScript.EvaluatePackage() - "" Line ?	[ (001079C9)].MasterAmbushActorScript.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:37PM] error:  (0003D6BE): the animation graph (SpecialCaseDoors) cannot currently process event "Close".stack:	[ (0003D6BE)].Default2StateActivator.PlayAnimationAndWait() - "" Line ?	[ (0003D6BE)].Default2StateActivator.SetDefaultState() - "" Line ?	[ (0003D6BE)].Default2StateActivator.OnLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:38PM] error: Property Alias_Vultures on script Fragments:Quests:QF_GhoulishPerkManager_001D33DA attached to GhoulishPerkManager (001D33DA) cannot be bound because  (10) on quest GhoulishPerkManager (001D33DA) is not the right type[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error:  (00215945): does not have any 3d and so cannot be placed at.stack:	[ (00215945)].ObjectReference.PlaceAtNode() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error: Cannot call spawnBird() on a None object, aborting function callstack:	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error:  (00215945): does not have any 3d and so cannot be placed at.stack:	[ (00215945)].ObjectReference.PlaceAtNode() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error: Cannot call spawnBird() on a None object, aborting function callstack:	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error:  (00215945): does not have any 3d and so cannot be placed at.stack:	[ (00215945)].ObjectReference.PlaceAtNode() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error: Cannot call spawnBird() on a None object, aborting function callstack:	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error:  (00215945): does not have any 3d and so cannot be placed at.stack:	[ (00215945)].ObjectReference.PlaceAtNode() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error: Cannot call spawnBird() on a None object, aborting function callstack:	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error:  (00215945): does not have any 3d and so cannot be placed at.stack:	[ (00215945)].ObjectReference.PlaceAtNode() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:39PM] error: Cannot call spawnBird() on a None object, aborting function callstack:	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.spawnBird() - "" Line ?	[ (00215942)].birdspawnerscript.OnCellLoad() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:43PM] VM is freezing...[11/20/2015 - 07:22:43PM] VM is frozen[11/20/2015 - 07:22:43PM] Saving game...[11/20/2015 - 07:22:43PM] VM is thawing...[11/20/2015 - 07:22:46PM] error: Object reference has no 3Dstack:	[ (000A7985)].Sound.play() - "" Line ?	[ (001A4517)].SpotlightScript.active.OnTimer() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:22:59PM] error: Object reference has no 3Dstack:	[ (000A7985)].Sound.play() - "" Line ?	[ (001A4517)].SpotlightScript.active.OnTimer() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:23:00PM] error: REChokepointCT03 (0018A6B9): attempting to start event scoped quest outside of story manager.stack:	[REChokepointCT03 (0018A6B9)].rescript.SetCurrentStageID() - "" Line ?	[REChokepointCT03 (0018A6B9)].rescript.setStage() - "" Line ?	[ (0018739A)].REChokepointTriggerScript.OnTriggerEnter() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:23:02PM] error: Unable to call SetValue - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:	[ (001978C6)].MasterAmbushActorScript.SetValue() - "" Line ?	[ (001978C6)].MasterAmbushActorScript.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:23:03PM] error: Unable to call SetValue - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:	[ (001978C6)].MasterAmbushActorScript.SetValue() - "" Line ?	[ (001978C6)].MasterAmbushActorScript.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:23:03PM] error: Unable to call EvaluatePackage - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect typestack:	[ (001978C6)].MasterAmbushActorScript.EvaluatePackage() - "" Line ?	[ (001978C6)].MasterAmbushActorScript.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:23:03PM] error:  (0017CE8C): the animation graph (TRAP) cannot currently process event "Reset".stack:	[ (0017CE8C)].traptripwire.PlayAnimation() - "" Line ?	[ (0017CE8C)].traptripwire.OnReset() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:23:04PM] error: Cannot clear a None arraystack:	[alias GhoulBosses on quest MinRecruit07 (00186642)].DefaultCollectionAliasOnDeath.OnAliasShutdown() - "" Line ?[11/20/2015 - 07:23:20PM] error:  (000866C7): model was not loaded when we tried to play an animation on it (most likely you're calling for animations in OnInit.).stack:	[ (000866C7)].Default2StateActivator.PlayAnimationAndWait() - "" Line ?	[ (000866C7)].Default2StateActivator.SetDefaultState() - "" Line ?	[ (000866C7)].Default2StateActivator.OnReset() - "" Line ?

I can't make heads or tails of it.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:28 am

Yeah, we've gotten quite a few Papyrus logs (some about birds among other things) . I'll add this to 2nd post to see if anybody finds out if it's related. Thanks

edit: turns out you can't put a spoiler tag on a quote aha

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:37 am

Kidnapping settlement quest can be completed by traveling to Monsignor from the North; same with the Quartermastery quest. The crater is also accessible this way, but only the top half. The container in its center is inaccessible. The CTD area appears to be an oval centered on Greentech Genetics, with the Charles View Amphitheater being the only other map marked location completely inaccessible.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:57 am

I'll post results of my reinstall. Hopefully something will be different. Because yea, if not ... patches.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:53 am

Which kidnapping quest and where did you have to go? I had to go to Morsignor Plaza on mine and had to use a console command.

I also heard the Quartermastry was a repeatable quest so it might change location? Unsure on that tho

Thanks for the info!

Sounds good, thanks for getting back. Really appreciate the help

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:11 pm

The kidnapping quest I received was "Kidnapping at Country Crossing." I also had to go to Morsignor Plaza, but I was able to go in from the North-side doors. Exiting through the South doors caused a CTD. Try fast traveling to the Tucker Memorial Bridge or the BADTFL Regional Office and approach Morsignor Plaza on foot. There should be 2-3 raiders in a covered entrance, might require some lockpicking.

Yes the Quartermastery quest repeats and changes location. I had to go to Morsignor Plaza for the fourth one I did, "Recover the Reflex Capacitor." Same fix as above.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:45 am

So is it just a corrupted save thing?That will never be fixed?

One night wake up only to see my 124h character is assumedly dead.

Can we just have an official answer or something to clarify if we really have no choice but to restart?

Sorry for my poor English and offence,English isn't my mother language.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:29 am

Ahh fair enough, I remember trying to get into Morsignor Plaza two ways before creating a workaround as it's easier for me then trying every direction. Thanks though, I'll probably give it a try going your way in a sec though. If you do know the questID for Country Crossing then I'll put a workaround in OP for people that still have problems with getting in - I'll also put the method of going round in as well. Boy, a lot of people get kidnapped in that area.

I think a patch will fix being able to get into the area but I'm not 100% on that sorry to say.

I would message gstaff or something but i really don't expect a response, they never so far have given any indication as to what will happen with a patch yet and I don't think this will be an exception. We should find out soon if it'll be patched in the next patch notes for the patch coming out next week. Wish I could be of for help there.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:15 am

Strange thing is that the CIT building coming from the police station crashed me several times yesterday. When I went to ask what the building was (cause I didn't have the quest yet to know what building it was) on https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3tcd8n/ctd_bug_near_fraternal_post_115_looking_southwest/I attempted one more time and magically was able to approach the building door, enter in and exit without incident. Moving on from that and 6 hours later I've run out of quest to do except for the BOS start that now crashes instead and any area anywhere near the CIT building and it's surrounding area. I can load in momentarily and see the area as well as use my Pipboy but the moment I move. CTD outta nowhere. This is increasingly frustrating cause unfortunately all my other games bore the crap out of me and this is all I have right now.

I'm gonna do a custom save and do a revertworld in the console and see what happens.

Revertworld was a stupid thing to do.... messed everything up.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:57 am

Results are in.

I deleted local content via Steam.

I deleted the Fallout4 folder located in My Documents/My Games/

After reinstalling, I didn't change any settings or .ini files, just stuck with what the launcher auto-detected. Started a new game. As soon as I exited Vault 111 I coc'ed to the area I'd been CTDing before (which seems a less common spot) which is the area between DB Technical High School and the S. Boston Military Checkpoint. No problems.

coc'ed to the area it seems the majority of people are reporting problems, Greenetech Genetics. No problems there, either.

I'm going to start another game, and with this one I'm going to track quest progression and CTDs in problem areas and post any results.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:35 am

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:52 am

I feel the same way about always calling graphics cards into play in these situations. Perhaps for a few crashes here and there reported yeah, but for full blown CTD's at a very particular place for a large amount of the fallout community including those people on Xboxes and PS4s it's quite irrelevant.

» Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:33 pm

Here's another weird thought from my QA brain to anyone having issues; when loading a game, first use the "switch character" thing to select a spesific character, then load from that menu. Longshot, but could be that it mixes up different character saves.

Worth a shot i guess.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:43 am

No because I CTD and only have one character.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:33 am

I have the same issue on the PS4.

I can't complete the Silver Shroud, and the Hunter/Hunted quest. The game crashes every time I get near that area. Just like it's happing to all of us.

I have a digital copy, but my cousin who has a physical copy did not have this issue. I don't know if this has any influence.

I was able to explore that area before, even got the locations on my map. All before getting to Diamond City, or Unlikely Valentine quest. Seems like it triggers after the BoS appeareance.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:40 am

I saw that the console command "save funclist 1" should write all used RefIDs into a textfile.

It worked many hours (ca. 36h played) ago. The Greemetech was still funcitonal. Also i've already rescued Rex and Strong from the trinity tower.

~~(but I'm not sure if the Greenetech area would have crashed then, I will check an earlyer save later.)~~

A save ca. 60h40' in can still write the "save funclist 1"-file, but the Greenetech area is bugged.

A save ca. 60h04' in can still write the "save funclist 1"-file, and the Greenetech area is not bugged.

In this time I rescued Valentine, so I replayed this mission and just after the mission no crash occures.

I'm trying to get the RefID from Blackbird (for a Railroad mission) with this function but Fallout4 now instacrashes.

Might it be that some RefID is bugged?

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:52 am

could just be some random broken something is randomly spawning and bugging out.

or like someone mentioned greentech could just be the center of the map and something bad going on at location 0,0

so far no crash for me still, since reloading the last workign game I could find. Still havent progressed valentine more, but don't think that will affect anything anyways since the bug was before I even rescue him the first time.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:02 am

I have a physical copy. I have the bug. I also got the bug well before I talked to anyone in BoS even (I ended up doing that quest when trying to find my way around the area and found the BoS along my way circumventing the area that was bugged as I was trying to get to Diamond City and it was right on my way).

» Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:26 pm

I've been having issues near the ampitheatre and trying to get near smiling kate. When you can in a clear enough view of the ampitheatre and try to go near it, game crashes. Now I'm trying to walk to kate right after killing Northy (west of Kate) and it crashes.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:00 am

I got the bug and manage to finish this one.Just reduce distance of everthing in the setting, I assume you should smash her face without crash. But another target is a different story.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:42 am

I haven't started the main quest yet but just completed the quest to free the captured caravan members from bunker hill. I am crashing now every time I try and head back to Bunker Hill or head to the Cabal House to start that quest.

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:03 am

Yup, this is happening to me on my 70+ hours save. It's crashing around the Kendall and C.I.T. Ruins. Just a CTD, no error message or anything. Really hope they patch this [censored].

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:01 pm

That was one of my fears.
I really have no clue what do to workaround it.
Or howto proceed with the game after that. I'm really hoping Bethesda come up with a patch to fix all of this SOON.

Because as right now, it's really a bummer to try to play
And put the whole story and the momentum build up for it on hold.
=((

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:45 am

Hi guys, I've been following this threat since page 2, I'm on ps4 and I have this bug

, I discovered this when I tried to do the shadow of steel quest, after that I did many other quests and I started Hunter/Hunted and now I started Boston after dark and I found something interesting, during the quest I had to escort a guy through the monsignor plaza, I was expecting a crash but as I went deeper in the crash zone , deeper than before the game froze and the sound looped, and I tried to wait more than 10 minutes but no luck, so I reloaded a save I had in that area and I fast travelled to cit ruins and I went to the crash zone and the game didn't crashed, after some more steps( about 10) the game froze:((( , so I tried to go to the bos outpost to do the shadow of steel, and when I was in the vertibird it went further than before before freezing ( confirmed by dialog, about 4 sec) , if someone could reproduce this at pc and look at the log I would appreciate. I also saw a car coming out of the ground at monsignor plaza...

» Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:30 am

I managed to find a different route from another direction that worked (went north then east).