Please link to this thread instead of a video as somebody might need help with another quest in the area.

See the 2nd post for things we've tried so you don't have to go through the whole thread

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Original Message
Hi,

Been playing for around 10 hours now with no problems and now doing a Settlement quest where I have to go to Monsignor but everytime I go there it crashes straight to the desktop without any error message, there isn't one in the Event Viewer either. I've searched for a while before posting but only found some other people who have had this crash on Reddit (They were doing the BoS questline), I've tried the Beta patch but it's the same.

My System is Intel I5 4670k, 8GB RAM, GTX 970, playing on SSD at 1080p. Windows 8.1.

Seriously any help is really appreciated, cheers for taking time to look at this.

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When it appears
It seems to appear once you've pasted a certain past in the story (either Valentine or killing a certain somebody after rescueing Valentine). Other people have gone to previous saves before then or started new games and been able to do all quests in the area.

The trigger is not the minutemen settlement quest as described in the original message, most people are having the problem without doing/starting that quest.

It could also appear after you unlock/pass a certain location.

If you go back to an earlier save with the crash, you'll probably find you don't crash there so it happens at some point later.

It occurs on PC, PS4 and Xbox One.

No matter what direction you try to enter the area, it'll crash. Entering the area via console commands, fast travelling or just walking into it will crash the game.

Not everybody is getting the crash either, lots of people have completed the game but it's still fairly popular and the Reddit megathreads have had this bug as the most common.

It is fairly Game-Breaking as many main story quests go through this area making the game impossible to complete if you have the bug and don't use console commands.

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Quests we don't don't have Workarounds for yet
If yours isn't here then post it and I'll put it here and if you have a fix, we'd love to hear it and put it here too
If you do post a quest that we don't have a workaround for then giving a location as to where to find the quest will help... a lot (if it's a spoiler then use a spoiler tag, trying to keep this as spoiler-free as possible)

• Butchers Bill 2 (Check http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24562920to see the request. It's a railroad quest. Thanks!)

Workarounds

To open the console, press the tidle key (left to the 1) or the apostrophe key (where the @ sign is + shift)

The Workarounds have been tested but save before using them in case, typing something in wrong could cause something different to happen

Most of the Workarounds don't skip that much unless they say otherwise.

We've tried to keep this as spoiler-free as possible so you should be fine

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Shadow of Steel workaround (PC)

Skipping to area (workaround #1)

If you're having a problem with this Shadow of Steel quest where you crash on the Vertibird then the videos below may help.

The Workaround simply skips the Vertibird ride.

Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgfsd-_HSdI [ORIGINAL VIDEO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jbAZXFc5D0&feature=youtu.be

Credit to cryttek

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Hunter/Hunted Workaround (PC)

Skipping to area (the videos skip you to the target) (workaround #1)

1.) Open console

2.) lnstead of searching for signal, use coc GreenetechGenetics01

3.) clear building, kill target

4.) when you see the door to leave for Cambridge, use coc sanctuaryExt to leave. Going through the door will cause you to crash again.

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Skipping to target (workaround #2)

Videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsQP55mG1dkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsQP55mG1dkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsQP55mG1dk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJMR0_9KPWg (SHORTER)

Step-By-Step

1.) Open console

2.) lnstead of searching for signal, use player.moveto 00064dfc

3.) kill target

4.) when you see the door to leave for Cambridge, use coc sanctuaryExt to leave. Going through the door will cause you to crash again.

Credit to cryttek

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Kidnapping from Greentop Nursery (PC) <----- This is a timed quest btw!!

Skip to area (Workaround #1)

I actually learnt how to do these workarounds so I'll try to do as many as I can

1.) open console

2.) movetoqt MinRecruit02

3.) get the kidnapped dude

4.) to get out use movetoqt MinRecruit02 again

Help from Kazen320

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Silver Shroud Quest (PC)

Skip Northy part (Workaround #1)

Step by step

This quest is outside so I can't spawn you near the person unfortunately but like the rest of the Silver Shroud quests, you just have to kill somebody so we'll use the console to do it.

Save before this one, I did this and it worked but I had a different quest bugged so I cant be sure if the full quest will complete. (I removed a quest from my log which caused the

Den to be bugged, i dun goofed up. lawl) If it worked please post here! If not then do the same and Ill make sure it works, would do that now but super tired. should work tho! cheers

1.) be told to kill Northy

2.) open console

3.) player.setstage MS04 900

4.) continue with quest

If the game tells you to search Northys body then use the command

setstage MS04 1000

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Avoid area / Agro

You can also kill Northy by shooting him and not going into the crash area, may require trial and error so save is advisable (see page 4)

You can also shoot at him to agro him towards you, allowing you to kill him.

If the game tells you to search Northys body but you can't go towards him because of the crash then use the command

setstage MS04 1000

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Quartermastery (PC)

Turn in quest (Workaround #1)

Quartermastery is a repeatable quest which will tell you to get an item, sometimes though the item is

in Morsignor area so it'll crash. You can use the method below to skip getting the item and hand in the quest.

Step By Step

1.) Be told to get a something

2.) Open console

3.) write player.setstage bosr02 40

4.) Turn in quest

Credit to aychesee and fakfejs

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Cleansing the Commonwealth (PC)

Turn in quest (Workaround #1)

This is another repeatable BoS quest, if it tells you to go to the crash area

then use the code below to be able to turn in the quest.

player.setstage bosr01 40

Credit to fakfejs

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Nuclear Option (PC)

Skip to location (Workaround #1)

The two links below is from this thread where somebody has found a Workaround, I'm linking to it as don't have much

context to create a Step By Step but if you're having the crash then you probably know when to use it.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24513332

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24513912

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Boston after Dark (PC)

Complete objectives (Workaround #1)

Most of Boston after Dark's quests are outside so we can't move you to the location unfortunately.

The link below is from somebody on this forum who knows which parts you have to skip and with

the commands.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24516262

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Battle of Bunker Hill (PC)

Complete quest (Workaround #1)

I recommend saving before this one, I haven't been able to test it as I'm not that far - sorry.

The only Workaround I've heard of is completeing the quest at a certain point (heard a lot of objectives in the area).

I haven't been able to look at the quest as I'm not that far yet but if you know the steps to use to get round the crash

then we'd love to hear them

To complete the quest use

setstage inst302 200

The quest giver may not return to his old position though so you can spawn him to you by doing to activate the next quest.

(check if you can carry on first)

prid 0005c337
moveto player

in the console.

Credit to Dracoliat and stmarrow

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Emogene Takes a Lover

Go around the crash (Workaround #1)

The reason people are crashing on this quest seems to be becuase one of the objectives is located close to the

crash area meaning you should be able to go around to get to the location, Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Spawn at you (Workaround #2) (PC)

You can also use the link below to get Emogene to spawn at you

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24544522

Credit to Lynx336

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Rockets' Red Glare (PC)

This quest is more tricky to pass but somebody managed to give very detailed intructions.

Here's the link

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24524306

Lots of credit to Northfield. This seemed like an annoying quest to make a Workaround for.

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Operation Ticonderoga (PC)

Somebody on the thread has been able to give instructions about this quest, it does

require some setstage commands so a save is advisable as it's slightly more tricky.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24531546

Credit to Chaseymelaine

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Ad Victoriam (PC & Console)

Fast travel slightly (Workaround #1)

Before starting the quest, make sure you have the C.I.T ruins on your pipboy unlocked and available for fast travel.

I haven't tested this but it should work and doesn't require any console commands so just save before

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24547076

Credit to Madcan6

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Unlikely Valentine (PC)

Teleport to (Workaround #1)

If you can't get to Valentine then you can follow the link below to teleport to him and complete the quest

This one is more complex so save before.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24547716

Credit to WickedPanda

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Weathervane: Camp Kendall (PC)

Skip setting up MLA (Workaround #1)
1.) Be told to set up MILA
2.) Open Console
3.) Enter command player.setstage RRR05 200

4.) close console
5.) Turn in quest to Tinker Tom

Credit to 3Gregg

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Of course, none of these are ideal (they are workarounds, not fixes) but there isn't any other way I have found unfortunately. If you have any workaround for any quest located in the area then post it and I'll update it here.

If you've gotten help or still need help, don't forget to send this bug to Bethesda! http://help.bethesda.net/app/fallout_feedback

Thanks everyone

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-4-game-breaking-bug-discovered/1100-6432308/http://gamerant.com/fallout-4-game-breaking-bug-802/http://www.gamepur.com/news/21198-fallout-4-has-game-breaking-bug-monsignor-plaza-settlement-quest-no-fix-yet.html, http://twinfinite.net/2015/11/fallout-4-game-breaking-bug-discovered/,
http://www.destructoid.com/yes-the-first-game-breaking-fallout-4-bug-has-been-found-321108.phtml http://www.vg247.com/2015/11/16/first-game-breaking-bug-in-fallout-4-discovered

Thanks for everybody else https://news.google.com/news/story?ncl=dqrnQrU4O-ubOfM1YVpo78NXQxepM&q=fallout&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCUQqgIwAWoVChMIxpGbhKuWyQIVQlAaCh0VwQ6p

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24527934

What we’ve tried

Here's a list of all the things we've tried as requested by http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24522406.

We made this so you don't have to read any posts before posting

> = Title

> = Description

> = Links (Only for ones that may requrie them)

I origianlly did this in a table but you can't put them on this forum :/

> Restarting the game

> People have tried restarting the game, creating a new character to have the crashing return at a later time.

> Re-installing the game

> People have tried re-installing the game to load there old saves and have the crash remain.

> Sending our saves to others

> We’ve also tried sending our save games to others who don’t have the crash to have the crash on our save files.

This other computer would have a different Operating System and specs.

> http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24492444

> Upgrading Operating System

> People have upgraded Operating Systems such as from Windows 8 to Windows 10 to have the problem remain.

> Walking super-duper slow

> IT WORKED!

Loljk, it crashed.

> I made this one up

> Going through each quest to see if a quest causes this.

> This has been done A LOT! Credit to those that did this, must have took ages.

> There’s a lot of them, I’m only linking a few.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24497174

> Changing the area

> We've tried changing the area via console commands and completeing a quest for it the crash to still happen.

> Tried an ENB

> Tried http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/332/ to solve the crash, the crash was not solved.

> Papyrus logging

> Tried using Papyrus to find the error.

> http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24522178

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24522178

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24518034

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24531068

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1546438-fallout-4-crash-in-specific-area/?p=24564458

> Tried different graphical options

> Such as windowed mode, Low, Medium, High, Ultra and the such. People on consoles also seem to be having the problem as well.

> RevertWorld

> We've used the console command Revertworld to reset the world and it worked but it also could've done damage to the game

This was created when we were on page 10 so there's most likely quite a few more I've missed and ones not on this thread.

If you want to try to find out the problem yourself then feel free but you don't have too as Bethesda has our save files and has their own debugging software.

Because I'm 7.5% sure I'm a demon of Satan, I shall be bumping again.

hail to lucifer, one true god, etc etc etc

Same problem, It's effecting people on all platforms. No word yet on my end. Hopefully someone will come to help.

Same here.. different area..

Yeah, before I made this post I only heard of people getting it when on PC. Cheers for the replies tho, I think people get sacrificed for bumping posts 3 times.

I mean, this is a pretty big issue. I mean it literally stops any progression in the game. A lot of main quest require you to go to that area.

Oh yeah dude, I know. Thats why I made this post because I only found a few posts about the issue and I searched for a while, the posts I did find had like 3-5 upvotes max. I'm not even playing the game until its fixed because I'm extreme and completely irrational like that

It's a huge issue. It makes my game totally unplayable.. I'm wondering why I'm not seeing anyone address these issues... and why I used to get a "chat" button when submitting a ticket but now theres no chat button anymore. UGH.

Well I'll link a couple of posts I've found about the issue so you can check them every now and then to see if theres a fix otherwise we'll have to wait on a patch.

https://w ww.reddit.c om/r/fo4/comments/3s513s/technical_support_megathread/cwvk90n

https://w ww.reddit.c om/r/fo4/comments/3sd6nv/crash_to_desktop_in_a_certain_area/

https://w ww.reddit.c om/r/fo4/comments/3sbnwu/shadow_of_steel_instant_crashes_at_the_same_spot/

https://w ww.reddit.c om/r/fo4/comments/3s4zoo/bugs_megathread/cww2cqo

https://w ww.reddit.c om/r/fo4/comments/3sbnwu/shadow_of_steel_instant_crashes_at_the_same_spot/

http://w ww.gamefaqs.c om/boards/164592-fallout-4/72802986

There are spaces between the www and com because I don't have permission to post links There's also a few Steam ones but they got 0 replies.

So I got good news and bad news.

Good news: It's not our rigs!

Bad News: It's our save files!

I Tried going back to a previous save, before the airship arrives, and it still crashes. So it happens before then.

Just loaded a save from when I just got out the vault and used tmm 1 and went to were I had the crash and I can actually walk around it. Maaaan, reminded me how much I wanna play it and how bad my freakin loading screens are for a SSD but i'll spam the forums about that another day. I jk^{OR DO I}

Not exaclty sure is this is good or bad news...

..... Sooo.. if we start all over again what's to say that it wont keep doing this?

We think it happens when you progress in the game dude, but we're literally making slghtly educated guesses. I'm using the word educated very loosly. (http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1545350-shadow-of-steel-mission-bug-game-crashing/)

we're literally going back to pivotal game moments hoping we magically find a connection. I think more people will get effected by it as they progress tho so it should be patched

Bump, I'm having the same issue as well and ill be damned if I'm starting again even though I'm enjoying the game a lot I feel that if I start again I just wont have the motivation to do all the progress I have lost again, here's hoping theres a fix soon :'(

Nah don't start again, it'll probably happen again, just avoid that part for now and hope for a patch. I've seen nobody having the issue to quite a few people so should be patched soon.

Lol, well It happens before the airship. Because I found a save prior to the airship that crashed. The only thing I keep thinking it is, is the Strong companion mission (Where you find him). But I don't know. Just assuming.

STRONG KEPT WALKING IN FRONT OF ME WHEN TALKING SO IF I FIND OUT HE'S BEHIND THIS THEN ME AND HIM AIN'T GUNNA BE PALS

i bet he also caused 9/11. strong is one devious bastard

Hi guys,

I'm having this issue in few placed. One is close to Monsignor Plaza, where the BoS recruit send me to search for artifact. I didn't yet started a vertibird related quest. Have reported this issue to Bethesda thru customer service form.

At this point i'm beginning to wonder if i should just put Fallout 4 to bed and wait for an official patch, tweaking .ini files for several days isn't my idea of fun.

I CTD WITHOUT FAIL in the Cambridge area. The quest is Hunter/Hunted(part of the main quest)

I cannot complete the quest. This literally breaks the game.

I have reinstalled the game, verified cache, updated drivers, changed graphical settings, windowed mode/normal mode. everything! It is crazy that this occurs. Is the game that broken?

Same error here, and ive tried it on 3 different PCs with different specs.

With win 7 home and 10 home.

Tried every single "crash fix" i could find online.

Thank god i didnt took time off for this.

Yeah guys, it really svcks. I'm not playing it yet and I think an offical patch is the best thing we got right now. There's a guy on Reddit who tried upgrading his system and everything but still has it so sounds like a bug with the game itself. cheers for the replies tho, the more known it is, the better.

update: For all those having the crash during a vertibird BoS quest then the guy in the other forum has a workaround for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgfsd-_HSdI Credit to http://www.gamesas.com/user/971718-cryttek/

Just to add... I have the EXACT same symptom and a different place. I do the quick crash (black screen then straight to desktop) as soon as I enter the Museum in Concord. I can stand at the front of room but as soon as I run in boom.

Anyway to add about your save theories... I am not so sure. I restarted my game from scratch (even picked a different gender) skipped sanctuary and garage went straight to concord and boom.

So I assume we suffer the same issue only at different places. svcks.

That sounds even worse, at least we could play ours for a while before it went "lol, no u dont u cheeky [censored]"

And yeah 2 of us tried the save theory thing and we think it happens later for where it crashs for us but for that we only literally loaded a later save file and went there so it isn't much proof haha

Hope it gets fixed for ya dude