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In One Way It Brought Back The Series In Another Way Ruined It

Any where You See Fallout 3 You see Someone Complaining About The First Two And What I Mean Is The Graphics Why?

Fallout 2 Is Nearly 12 years old Why Would You Complain About The Graphics

What Has This Generation Come to When The First Thing You Complain About Is Graphics

When I was Growing Up (snes and up)All We Cared About Was Gameplay graphics Were A Bonus

(Sorry I Just Thought I would Let Off Some Steam)

But It Seems That Everyone Hates FO 1&2 Becaus they compare it to Fallout 3 Graphics What Are Your Thoughts?


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No offense to anyone, but I think FO3 is the superior version. Mainly because of better graphics , not to mention you can change the play style of some things. I think they could've done better with this intro movie, It's good in terms of it explains the scenario, but I think they could've given you more clues and what not. Overall, it's not bad =)

Fallout 1&2>Fallout 3

Why?

They are actual RPGs, they are great RPGs, great storylines, great dialogue, great atmosphere, they are actually hard, and just better.

is your arrow pointing the wrong way perhaps?

Haha, damn my fast typing, I forget to check my posts.

But yeah, I originally meant to say Fallout 1&2>Fallout 3.

Yeah...FALLOUTFTW (you know what FTW actually means right?) the 'open' side of the arrow points to the greater one.

I personally think they are too different to be judged against one another, the people who do so just want every single person to have their opinion on everything. which isn't that uncommon actually

i was going to say

A lot of people preferred the older games because they had more raunchy content. There were prosttutes and druggies in most towns. You could sleep around (fade to black screen) to resolve certain quests. They were text quests with the sad graphics, so parents didn't care. With the new graphics, you have to imagine things being censored better.

Okay, let's take a look into the future here when everyone has a hologram projector in their bedroom. I wouldn't want my future kids to be looking at a person on that thing *at all*. Even an innocent looking school teacher in a dress would be in a dress you could now crawl underneath. Censorship has to go up with this stuff, it's just decency. If you want to see nudity, go to a nudist colony. If you want to see prosttutes and druggies, go to DC irl

Other people I've noticed don't like that the main quest is fast in FO3. Well, that's too bad. That's the way the leveled baddies and quest markers effect gaming time. If you went back to FO1&2, didn't have to worry about difficulty of the baddies, and knew exactly where to go, I'm betting you could finish the games faster than FO3.

FOFTW, what is it you prefer in the older games? You didn't say.

edit: I'm biased though because I like my games censored. I played a version of the Witcher censored and uncensored... the uncensored version was distracting. It broke the mood of the game completely. I was killing monsters then suddenly I'm feeling guilty looking at a naked village girl because I bought her a drink -- totally ruins the game.

OP that quote you posted was more than likely posted by an adolescent moron. Its not all about the graphics there is much more to it than that.

For me FO3 is a top-of-the-line RPG. Its also a modern RPG. You have the options in this game to do and be and go anywhere at anytime. You are given the tools to make this game as hard or as easy as possible. You can literally taylor this game for you, if that isn't an RPG then I don't know what is. What makes FO3 a cut above the rest is the quality at which it does these things. Despite all its faults (what game doesn't have a laundry list of faults) it still manages to capture the essence of what an RPG is. On top of that it has the highest replay value of any game Ive ever played. It has more content than any game Ive ever played. In short it sets a new standard for the genre.

Fallout 3 is like Fallout meets marketing and a console related marketing.

Its amazing that Fallout 1&2 are still played after all those years, despite the graphics. Patches were made and the game is now 99% bug-free.

Im quite sure Fallout 3 is going to be quickly forgotten but the first two will never be. As long as developers are able to offer only superficial game mechanics, mild experience, simplistic dialogues and unchallenging walkthrough, every new Fallout is going to be just-another-fallout-game and people will always get back to the first two of the serie.

On the other hand, the Vegas is being developed by poeple behind Fallout 1&2 or Baldurs Gate series, so lets just hope they wont try to build up on what bethesda clearly [censored]*d up.

So True That It Hurts

Not to be off topic but yeah most of these people now days don't understand FTW does not mean For the Win, and where did people come up with that garbage. It sounds like some whinny motivational speaker crap...... :rolleyes: My 62 year old Aunt even know what it really means FFS.........:rofl: and this wasn't intended at you personally FALLOUTFTW, so please don't take it that way.

Now on topic, I have played all 3 games and they are all great in their own ways just different play styles.

There's your problem.

Im pretty sure For the Win is what he means.

Top of the line, eh? Not much of an rpg left in the game, imo. Most of the perks are useless. U gain experience too fast and U stop earning them too soon. Easy to become demi-god.

If this is modern, im glad there are fallouts left in the past. :cookie:
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And thats the problem. only a couple of the perks are useless, yes its easy to become a god but thats not all you can do, you can be anything you want from a god to a merchant to a wanderer to an assassin. People get caught up on only one end of the spectrum, being a god-o-da-wastes, when it is indeed possible to be something completely different and get an exciting challenging experience from the game. Options is what it is, this game gives you options. Act like nostalgia doesn't play a factor in the other games just like it will with this game. Just give it time.

Not to mention the SPECIAL is meaningless.

You can have one Strength, yet still carry a Minigun.

You can have one Intelligence, yet talk normally.

You can have one Luck, yet all that happens is that your chances for some random encounters are lowered.

I really fail to see how Fallout 3 is a good RPG since the SPECIAL is so flawed and meaningless.

Fallout 3 is an rpg to me, but I wishe they had fined tuned SPECIAL, and added stupid options and, how much a city likes you level.
Wait, FTW doesnt mean f-bomb the world. oops.

No Flaming :rofl:

I blame my gaming/nerd friends for misinforming me.

Another thing I prefer about the originals was that you didn't level so fast. In Fallout 3, in under two hours, I was level 7. Level 7, and I've barely done anything. Good thing there are mods that make you need more XP to level up.

Its all good

I remember back in the day when we gamers judged a game based off of gameplay alone. We didn't have no HDR, or fancy water shaders. We were lucky to have 16 bit colors. Youngsters these days don't appreciate a good Monochrome, 16 color or 256 color game where the gameplay is the most important feature. They got no respect for the days when games were games. We didn't have no blades of grass on our 2D backdrops, we didn't have no exploding heads or flashy weapon projectiles. We were lucky if we got actual sprites for blood. Why when I was a kid we had games like Wolfenstein with flat maze-like levels filled with Nazis who were 2D drawings that all died the same way in plain old fall to the floor fashion. No physics or brutal dismemberment back then. Kids these days couldn't survive without their fancy Havok physics, and their flashy exploding groins. Back when I was a kid we had to actually use our heads to play video games; why just yesterday I was looking back on that adventure game 'Myst' that was a big hit back in the day; you didn't kill anything at all in that one no sir all you did was explore and solve puzzles. The whipper snappers of today couldn't last five minutes in Myst. Back then we knew what was important in video games; now all the kids care about is bloom, senseless violence, blowing grass and bouncing female assets in extreme beach volleyball games.

[/Old guy rant]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that point
I think they really tweaked this thing to stop people from having the "false starts" that plagued 1&2. They were demotivating, but really made you feel accomplished when you got a character that worked.

A member posted some months back that they absolutely could never bring themselves to play any game that was only 16bit color (not realizing that that's 65536 colors), but I asked them a trick question (with fair warning that it was a trick); I asked them if they would play a game that looked like this...
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/Oblivion-1.gif

And another thread about Fallout 3 versus Fallout/Fallout 2...

Are actually opening a discussion or do you just want to vent at the fact that Fallout 3 was below your own expectations? Because if you really want to have a true dialog about these games then I can display an entire laundry lists of things which left me disappointed when I sat down to play Fallout Trilogy and completed the first 2 games.

The problem is that when you really get down to it, everything is just a matter of taste and a matter of opinion. I personally find Fallout 3 superior to the first 2 games and A LOT more enjoyable to play. I finished Fallout 2 last month and ever since then I haven't been even remotely inclined to turn on the Trilogy pack; not to make a new character for either of the originals nor to continue my Tactics game which I abandoned half way through mission 5 in McComb. I haven't uninstalled the Trilogy yet because I have forced myself into the belief that I may someday become inspired enough to continue Tactics and somehow the game will be "better" for me, or that I may want to begin either F1-2 from scratch. But in all probabilities it's all just bs and I'll end up uninstalling it to make space for something else.

To answer your question, I think Fallout 3 complements the series really well and gives both a new perspective to enjoy and a different Fallout experience to be enjoyed within that world.

hahaha nice one Gizmo! Anywya yeah I think FO3 will be quickly forgoten for the next bit of EC game. Be it FO4 or anything else that comes along. FO3 isn't really an RPG, it's more like a Sandbox with rpg-lite elements and a virtually meaningless little story tacked on that has basicly zero effect on the game world. Just take a look at BS whe nyou FEV spike the water. Does anyone actually die besides you?