HI!

I've bought both Fallout 3 and the GOTY edition along with Oblivion Goty edition for the PS3. So I'm a fan of these games.

I haven't played yet (as we all) Fallout new Vegas and I'm already a disappointed with the look of the game and the creativity of the monsters shown. It looks more a Fallout 3.5 than a all new game. The monsters look similar to monsters in FO3 and the graphics look the same...

Looks like we're gonna play a BIG expansion of Fallout 3 instead of a new game:(

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What about you?

:facepalm:

It is being made with the same engine as Fallout 3 and uses some of Fallout 3's art resources. However it's a separate game in its own right. As it's using the same engine the gameplay fundamentals will be pretty much the same but Obsidian is making changes in these regards, particularly (it seems) to dialogue choices and the impact SPECIAL has on gameplay.

It isn't Fallout 4 nor is it intended to be, it also isn't merely a big expansion to the original despite the similarities. I imagine while some things will play pretty much the same as Fallout 3 many things wont, or at least we'll have a very different take on them.

I only hope that super mutants will be remade, but from what I've seen in the screenshots they won't.

If we were seeing the exact FO3 supermutant models in the NV screenshots I'd figure they were placeholders. However since we're seeing modified models/skins I'd guess those are works in products if not the final models.

Technically, it IS Fallout 3.5, in a way. Or we can simply consider it an unnumbered entry in the series, like Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel before it.

If you really think about it, shouldn't New Vegas be Fallout 3, and fallout 3 just Fallout: DC or something. Bearing in mind that New Vegas has more to do with the first two.

No can do. The packaging over the over 4 million copies sold kinda already say Fallout 3 on them.

What do you mean more to do with the first two? One faction and on the same side of the country?

HI!

I've bought both Grand Theft Auto 3 and the GOTY edition along with Saints Row 2 Goty edition for the PS3. So I'm a fan of these games.

I haven't played yet (as we all) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City and I'm already a disappointed with the look of the game and the creativity of the criminals shown. It looks more a GTA 3.5 than a all new game. The criminals look similar to criminals in GTA3 and the graphics look the same...

Looks like we're gonna play a BIG expansion of GTA3 instead of a new game:(

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What about you?

Man Vice City was awesome. I heard the next GTA game is going to be a next gen Vice City....I hope it's true

Pretty much I guess.

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That doesn't make much sense to me :[

Well, what we can do in his suggestive case is order a recall of ALL purchased game cases of Fallout 3, and refurbish them with the Fallout: DC logo. It's just that simple.

I just don't understand why people see the pictures and think "This isn't a NEW game, this is just fallout 3".
What's so incredibly bad about using the same engine over again?
Does every game really have to be on a new engine with better graphics and bla bla bla?
I don't get it.
If we say like this: Upon hearing about New Vegas what did you expect it to be like?

Everything I know is a lie!

What about GTA: San Andreas? GTA: San Andreas!?

No. You saying NV has more to do with the first two doesn't make much sense. So would a game in Washington (state) that has to do with you handing out hot dogs to the local populace have more to do with the first two purely because it's on the west coast?

I agree with you, I was being sarcastic about his suggestion of Fallout: DC replacing the name of Fallout 3.

Just what kinda hot dogs are we talkin' here? Some nice stadium brats, then maybe................

Makes a fair bit of sense to me. It's involving many of the same factions and in a manner that would actually make sense instead of just dragging them all the whole way across the continent. NV is just barely North East of where the first two games took place, there could conceivably be a decent number of characters from Fallout 2 present in New Vegas. Harold would have made far more sense in NV then in DC.

Your hot dog example is a straw man fallacy by the way. You have made a much easier to attack position than the one actually represented. Of course hot dog vendors don't have more to do with the first two purely because it's on the west coast, but that is entirely beside the point.

OH. I'm an idiot. Mr.GARY said that. My bad. Sorry.

I concur.

You have a point. BUT, the reason I questioned it is because we don't know that much about the game. The only thing connecting it to the first two are two (confirmed) factions, and the fact that it's on the same side of the country. I'd say it's pretty early to say "This has more to do with the first two."



That's what you get when you try to make a quick point without thinking about it.

While it may be a straw man, it would also qualify to be "reduction to absurdity", so is still is a valid rebuttal.