I know, I'm just butthurt because there's so much wasted potential. If we ever see the west coast in a modern Fallout, I'm sure it will have more identity. Maybe Obsidian should remake the original games in the style of Fallout 4... that would sure create some excitement on these forums.

I assume you weren't impressed with New Vegas, as you didn't mention it.
I thought NV did a pretty solid job of giving us the desert in a modern way.

The forums would explode if we saw a new obsidian entry for sure, but I doubt the series will ever see anyone other than Bethesda ever again.

It would be interesting to see Brian Fargo and InXile give it a go!

I think Fallout 2 they extended into some parody A bit too far (and its one of the reasons I prefer FO1 to 2).

I just see this as another thread saying that Bethesda is ruining Fallout, they're not. They wan't to make it more well known, while trying to respect it's origins. Sure there are issues, and I saw them even though I've never played the original games, but overall I think they are trying to tell the Eastern Story. That story is going to be different, and maybe certain things were more available on the east coast than the west coast.

Leprechaun: We have seen a lot of negative Bethesda/Fallout 4 forum topics disguised as regular topics in the forum of late. That wont change till november and then we will get a lot more. Normally they are fairly easy to identify after reading the first line of the first person posting.

Oh, I don't think Obsidian did a bad job with the Mojave. They don't make worlds as well as Bethesda, but the Mojave didn't suffer from a lack of identity at least. My only criticism of the Mojave is that, with the beefgates and invisible walls (and general smallness) it actively discouraged open-world exploration.

I know the original Fallout was more serious than the later games, but I prefer Bethesda's interpretation as a dark comedy. It's what separates Fallout from other post-apocalyptic games. Bethesda seems to be going in the same direction Fallout 2 started with humor. (Besides, Fallout's setting never really lended itself to be taken very seriously)

stop comparing the original series with bethesda s fallout they are very different games set in the same alternative world

and remember if bethesda hadn' bought the rights the franchise would have died or in the worse case scenario turned into a diablo clone

It's still Fallout.

There may be differences, but, by owning the license, Bethesda has the creative license to make any changes they want while still keeping core elements of the original or preceding titles.

When Disney bought the rights to Star Wars, they made some decisions about what is and isn't canon in the lore ... and, because they own the rights, they can continue to make changes, regardless of how much you, or I, or anyone else likes those changes.

Of course, ownership of a license or product while allowing for the creative license to make changes also runs the risk of alienating and disenfranchising fans of the product. Still, that's Bethesda's call to make, and whatever changes, additions, subtractions, twists and or turns they take with the overall Fallout Universe is all theirs to make, and continue to make and adjust according their creative vision.

If you don't like it, oh well.

Mods are supported.

Take a deep breath, wait a minute, and then make a mod that takes out everything that offends your ever so refined sensibilities about what you think Fallout should be.

There were multiple companies interested in acquiring the Fallout IP one of which was Troika the game studio founded by the guys who actually made the original Fallout. The franchise would certainly not have died. Bethesda did nothing wrong by acquiring the license but there were certainly alternatives that would've resulted in a more faithful sequel.

This, more of an issue is that it does not look like the war was 200 years ago, it looks more like it was 2-10 years after the bombs fell.

You see this everywhere, building, junk, even boxes with food lying around 200 years later, TV set and computers still working, the lack of vegetation and high levels of radiation might be because the retrofuture vision.

This is done to make the world look post apocalyptic, 200 years after an realistic world would look more like Oblivion, new town using new materials have grown up perhaps on top of existing ones. Overgrown ruins would be the only thing left of the pre war world. It would not look post apocalyptic however.

This effect is far more visible in Fallout 3/ NV because of the close in view but is still present in 1 and 2.

Troika? Troika was as good as dead already in 2004... And their last games... Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines was a buggy mess. And The Temple of Elementar Evil was storyless and buggy too. Troika would by no way the rescue for Fallout in 2004. Troika was not an alternative.

It might not have succeeded in making a game you would like, but would have without any doubt succeeded in making a faithfull sequel of their own game.

(unless they would get a severe case of schyzophrenia, which is yet to be proven)

The owners of Troika would seem to disagree. They even had a publisher already lined up in Activision.

It is also pretty funny that you think buggyness would or should somehow disqualify a company from making a Fallout game. There is precisely one Fallout game that hasn't been a buggy mess at release. Maybe two I don't know what Tactics was like on release.

Is it FoBOs ?

Thanks, that is usefull.