Fallout 3 is better in terms of atmosphere and exploration, New Vegas is better in terms of story, writing and characters.

Keeping in mind that exploration (in the Oblivion sense of aimlessly wandering,) was not a major aspect of the original Fallout games (yeah I'm looking at you, people who have only played F3.)

Yes and I wouldn't change that for the world either, I've played the other Fallouts and if I had have played them when they first came out I may probably be with the original crew in the opinion that they were the best or even better than FO3, but I didn't and FO3 blew my socks of when I played it, it is in fact my game of the Decade! It was so good! If I had have played the others first then FO3 mighten have been as good, which is something I would never change, it was a fantastic game for me, although you mighten agree with me, but I loved it Vegas is a great game but it failed for me personally to live up to the greatness that was FO3! Thats my opinion and you have yours which is different but not wrong and neithers mine Vegas just isn't as good imo but thats not to say its a crap game, it isn't, its a great game.

i'd choose fallout 3, its the ideal rpg and it offers a wide range of exploration and a good initiative story, fo3 story line is relatively simple

new vegas concentrates on weapon upgrades, factions conflict, good craft and customization and more concentrated on advanced effects.

Ideal RPG... Say what now? :huh:
So... An ideal RPG is one that has a simple story line and a lot of exploration?
Dungeon crawling is not really what makes a "role"-playing game.
And simple story is your preference and I respect that but you really need to explain more in detail as to how it's an "ideal" RPG.

Let's not get too nostalgic. There was plenty of random exploration in the first two games; do you not recall all the special random encounters that dropped you in some weird place? I mean, you could find a dead whale next to a potted plant. Even in the main location maps there were houses and other areas that didn't have any overall use except to be looted.

The Gamebryo engine doesn't do things the same way as the first two games; it has a large, consistant world instead of just having a fast travel map and individual location maps. The random locations are necessary for immersion.

I consider this to be a positive innovation for the series, honestly.

An RPG need to give you more than a just one option, and their plots must be complex, not simple

Fallout 3 wins in exploration and ambience, but not in story and handwriting

Fallout 3 pretty much trumped NV in exploration, atmosphere and overall feel/experience. Much of the time I felt NV was dreadfully boring, tedious or forced. Any game that makes me feel, "I hope I finish this soon" is doing something wrong. By the end of it, I just wanted to be done. I no longer cared how the game was completed, what the outcomes were or what ending slides I might get for finishing different quests.

NV is much meatier in dialogue and quests but it was like eating a dry turkey. There's a lot more "depth" to the story. The writing is even better (in most places). It was a mental Thanksgiving feast held in a cold room with uncomfortable chairs and all the relatives I can't stand. NV is a game that should technically be better than Fallout 3 but was delivered in a way that did not make me want to stay and take it all in. This is probably the difference between an Obsidian game and a Bethesda game and why people can play Oblivion/Fallout 3 for hundreds of hours.

If people want to know the outcome of the "vs" wait a couple years and look back at the sales numbers. Check out whether NV is still in Live's top 10/20 played list. The majority of people will speak with their money and with their playtime:

http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/11/30/live-activity-for-week-of-nov-15.aspx

You've got an entire histoy of literature and cinema to plunder for original plots (good luck on that btw...) that aren't Twilight-related. Or have you read every novel ever written and watched every movie already?

Seriously, "Books nowadays = Twilight" lol.

http://www.nybooks.com/-http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/the_tls/.

Still, good luck looking for moving, thought-provoking and entertaining stories in a medium inherently ill-suited to providing them!

Fallout 3 easily (excluding New Vegas' bugs)

It was just better done and I never got tired of it (until my dog chipped it causing it to say ERROR whenever I try to turn it on). Whereas I got sick of New Vegas two days into the game.

I say Bethesda hires Obsidian to give them quest, charatcer, location, and faction ideas but Bethesda makes it. New Vegas was full of good ideas but it just wasn't done with the nice atmosphere of Fallout 3 (which oddly enough lacked creative ideas)

Uh.......hardcoe mode has nothing to do with difficulty. It's an immersive aspect.

It's still beyond me how anyone can find FO3 more challenging with an invincible VATS mode and overpowered weapons. To each his own.

Oh yes it is and its also about immersion as well I suppose but it was stated by the Devs that hardcoe Mode was added because people like you found FO3 to easy, so if the Devs say its about Difficulty then its about Difficulty, are you going to deny the people who made the game?

You had me going for a minute.

Good one.

If I had to pick one right now I'd probably go with Fallout 3 but one year from now I'll change that answer to New Vegas because of the DLC. Both games are good, Fallout 3 is easier in certain aspects but tougher in other catagories. New Vegas is bug galored but is still an amazing game to play.

Maybe harder in the aspect that you have ammo weight, stimpacks aren't magic and that limb damage is a bigger issuere. Of course that doesn't make it EASIER. But it is NOT a difficulty SETTING. Some on the board seem to confuse that since the word "Hard" is in "hardcoe Mode".

And you're right. I wouldn't "deny" the devs. They are right, FO3 was too easy.

:goodjob: :biggrin:

Fallout 3 was just sad.... I mean sad... I could kill super muties with my 10mm pistol at level 8 when they had a MINIGUN and an ASSAULT RIFLE.

FO3 is great for people who love games like Oblivion where you can do everything and mindlessly grind npc's in misc. copy/pasted dungeons all day. If I want to grind I will play an MMO.

Fallout 3 is the best game

Fallout New Vegas is the best FALLOUT game

Fallout 3 is, well, without offense, Oblivion; Wasteland Edition


Maybe the game became the worst game ever in 2077, but, still im gonna play it

If Fallout 4 sucess, neither NV or FO3 its gonna be in the Live top forever, in the coming years a lot of game its gonna be released

I will go with Fallout 3. It is a better game because of what it made. Talking game mechanics it raised fallout from the dead which is the same as raising your character 10-15 levels and Fallout New Vegas not only would have never existed without it it only done a small upgrade which will help make F4 better.

Made of what?

and how is that raised fallout from the dead?

At least in my area, Fallout 2 was still selling in retail stores even before FO 3 came out.... does that mean it was dead?

Fallout was far from dead by the time Fallout 3 came out, it was being distributed from combination packs that Interplay released.

Well I thought they were both fantastic games and *gasp* I have played Fallout right from the start and believe that the series has improved with every installment (we don't count BoS do we? Because this would ruin my point.) There were things I loved and things I hated in every game (Even the origional, which I realise will be viewed as blasphemy by those among you who consider fallout 1 the perfect game.) But I honestly don't think that I can choose between the two games. In Fallout 3, when you leave the vault for the first time and see the capitol wasteland spread out before you, that just took my breath away. But then in New Vegas I instantly fell in love with Victor, left the docs house and see a robot trundling down the road, wander over to investigate and the robot starts acting like a cowboy. Both had me enthralled from the very start.

So who's gonna join me up here on the fence?

P.S all the militants who are adimant that 3 is better, NV is better or that they can both [censored] off because nothing can top the first two, please keep posting, your' insults to each other are funny, funny stuff :rofl:

Wasn't perfect, it didn't have a Take All button when looting, we could pick up enemies armor and Power Armor made game complete cakewalk.


What kinda fence is it?


Hmmm...
Star Wars Episode 1 was the best Star Wars film ever! Jar-Jar even made it better!
But yeah I'll try to humor you further with my elitism.

Blasphemer!!!!! :toughninja: