Fallout: NV vs Fallout 3

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:14 am

Maybe what's missing in NV are a few more random encounters and/or random enemy spawns.

Yeah I've been suggesting them to add Random Encounter Zones in the DLC suggestion thread a couple of times.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:49 pm

Maybe what's missing in NV are a few more random encounters and/or random enemy spawns.


Yeah I've been suggesting them to add Random Encounter Zones in the DLC suggestion thread a couple of times.


The Devs of New Vegas desided to go agaist special random ecounters because they had to deal with ten years or so of fans fighting over the special random encounters of FO2. That's why they came up with Wild Wasteland. We are lucky to have that I think Chris Avellone was the only one fighting to have them. New Vegas has some pretty good ones that are not popculture like FO2 in which you don't need wild wasteland to encounter.

The game could use more random nightkin looking for stealth boys for they are schizophrenic and unpredictable. They don't care whos territory they are in. FO3 bugged me with the random spawning of raiders and mercs. That to was predictable, so many times I knew walking out that door I would run into talon company. That would not have been so bad if only there was a reason for it. The Legion and NCR come after you if you do something really bad against them, you earned a bounty. FO3 talon company comes after you because you have good karma :facepalm: Fiends can spawn at random but only in their territory which makes sense. FO3 its just generic raiders. New Vegas there are vipers, powder gangers, jackal and fiends which give the game more personality IMO.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:09 am

For exploration: Fallout 3...

For everything else: New Vegas.

Truer to originals
Better storyline
Better dialogue
More realistic NPCs.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:30 am

/snip

Not talking about "Special" encounters.
I'm just talking about going down to Dry Lake at lvl 30 and finding a group of cazador's, Nightkin, Desert Rangers or Legion Frumentarii(??).
Stuff like that yknow.
To have some zones where it's possible for enemies scaled to your level to spawn.
Right now the only places which are a challenge are to the west of Vegas, north-east part of map and deathclaw quarry/promoinotoryasdioaslkn(???).
Not even if I put on a grimy pre war suit and go out with a 10mm submachine gun is any of the enemies on the southern half of the map of any challenge at all.
P
oint is, once I reach mid-level, there is no point in exploring the southern half of the map cause everything down there is cakewalk.
Adding level scaled random encounter zones would mix things up and there will be parts where things will be challenging.

(This would not replace fixed spawns nor would this mean that we would meet level scaled enemies every 30 meters like in Fallout 3)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:22 pm

New Vegas makes FO3 look like child's play.

Sure, FO3 had better "exploration" in some people's minds, but having goodies at every corner is not "exploration." (In my opinion.)

I like FNV because it is close to the originals which are dear to my heart. The dialouge in FNV makes FO3 look like it was written by a 4 year old, and the ending in FNV is just plain awesome.

PS..When I was four, I was writing better stories than FO3 :D
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:18 am

FO3, for the atmosphere, the aesthetics, the art design, and the attention to detail.

More realistic NPCs.


Once, I walked into a restaurant and punched a man's head from his shoulders, whereupon it landed in the soup bowl of his dinner companion. She elected to ignore this turn of events, and continued to blankly sup her starter. The much-improved writing doesn't do a thing for realism when the AI is so monumentally awful.

PS..When I was four, I was writing better stories than FO3 :D


Really? Have you got any to share?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:23 pm

Really? Have you got any to share?


Nope, they are all gone by now. I know that by four, I could write better stories than just a rehash of two other stories :D
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:18 am

I could write better stories than Fallout 3... Sadly, they prefer cliches now.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:36 am

Better writing: New Vegas
Better story: New Vegas
Better characters: New Vegas
Better character interaction: New Vegas
Better storyline: New Vegas
Better RPG mechanics: New Vegas
Better side quests: Debatable
Better voice acting: New Vegas
Better combat: New Vegas
Better sandbox game: Fallout 3
Better Fallout game: New Vegas

Obsidian developed New Vegas for Fallout fans rather than Bethesda fans. They focused on the qualities of the originals rather than Fallout 3(exploration...). The Fallout series was never about sandbox exploration until Fallout 3, so I prefer New Vegas as it succeeds at being a Fallout game rather than a BGS game.

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Everything I've stated above is my opinion.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:50 pm

New Vegas is better in every aspect, it makes Fallout 3 look like a joke.


No it isn't and no it doesn't.

While Vegas has improved certain mechanics in the game over FO3 and added some new things like Rep. etc (Which I like). Overall FO3 is superior to Vegas, I am playing Vegas on Very hard with hardcoe Mode on, it has become a most interesting game for me, but FO3 was harder. When the bug kicked in on my replay of Vegas which I couldn't level up it made me think Vegas would be even more challenging and enjoyable if in hardcoe Mode, you didn't level up but pehaps Hardc. Mo. would be better if you only had 300 skills points to distribute at the start and you can only pick two perks as well (including your 2 starting Traits) and you had to work with only those limited skills and perks and can choose no more for the rest of the game in other words you don't level up for the rest of the game or assign anymore points. You can only assign points to what you consider necessary like Lockpick or guns and a few points left over for other skills. What u think, make the game even harder?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:18 pm

*snip*


And how is *that* making F3 harder(objectively speaking)? It's a common fact you can create a demigod with all those inbalanced perks(Gunt nut, little leaguer = straight upgrades) and having them every level in F3. Now add the svcky level scalling, and this weird damage system(Power Armor being useless even againts BB's) and it's a walk in a park. A pink park with roses I gotta say.

I could also annihilate a super mutant on level two with nothing more than a... wait, I already said that somewhere right? Go figure. :whistling:
The only time I *could* get a proper challenge was installing the FWE/MMM mod, and majorty of those features are already included in NV.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:58 am

And how is *that* making F3 harder(objectively speaking)?


I wasn't talking about making F3 harder, I said I thought it was a tougher game incomparison to FNV (Even with hardcoe Mode). I was actually talking about making hardcoe Mode harder. Because I had a harder time completing F3 as opposed to the not so hard FNV. But the off-topic question was lol, should future hardcoe Modes in FO games not allow your character to level up at all? And even if I was talking about making FO3 harder, not leveling up and no perks would make the gamer harder anyway, so how can it not make it harder but I don't play Easy or Normal diff.settings, its hard and V.Hard so my mutants don't die as easy as the Easy/Norm. Diff. setting, of course it would make the game harder don't talk...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:21 pm

I really don't know lol! They are both epic,awesome stories,good weapons and still have vats.
I would have to say new Vegas because I always wanted an eyebot follower. I can't wait for DLC!!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:39 am

I like Fallout 3, btw some guy above me was jiving about killing easy super mutants guess he never fought super mutant overlords. Anyway Fall out 3 is just a better game to look at and experience. Just look at the post here any time some one says they like fallout 3 the new vegas fans take it as an offense and flat out insult fallout 3 in return. All i have to do is look at the dam screens shots for NV and i can tell it looks a hell of a lot like fallout 3 geez they use the same engine. Sorry but they cant be that dang different yada yada different story ect. Come on gimmie a break If you hate fallout 3 that much how can you like fallout nv, again same game engine as fallout 3. Im sorry i dont belive that less is more. All i see here is 2 different types of gamers one that really likes bethseda's style the other basically dont. If you didnt like fallout 3 then you probably would not like any of Bethsedas other games.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:50 am

Sounds like you never played Fallout New Vegas, thus you have no real opinion on it, also I like Morrowind, if Bethesda wen't back to that quality of game making then I would be happy, but all they do is fill their games with cool [censored] and [censored] lore.

and Fallout 3 was insanely easy, even on Very Hard mode I could kill anything at level 1, it was dumb.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:52 pm

I like Fallout 3, btw some guy above me was jiving about killing easy super mutants guess he never fought super mutant overlords. Anyway Fall out 3 is just a better game to look at and experience. Just look at the post here any time some one says they like fallout 3 the new vegas fans take it as an offense and flat out insult fallout 3 in return. All i have to do is look at the dam screens shots for NV and i can tell it looks a hell of a lot like fallout 3 geez they use the same engine. Sorry but they cant be that dang different yada yada different story ect. Come on gimmie a break If you hate fallout 3 that much how can you like fallout nv, again same game engine as fallout 3. Im sorry i dont belive that less is more. All i see here is 2 different types of gamers one that really likes bethseda's style the other basically dont. If you didnt like fallout 3 then you probably would not like any of Bethsedas other games.


Graphics =/= same game.

Besides the engine, combat, and some reused assets, there really isn't much similarities between New Vegas and Fallout 3. New Vegas tries(and succeeds in my opinion) to be like the originals, focusing on things like story, writing, characters, and choices, while Fallout 3 was more of a Bethesda/sandbox game in terms of defining qualities.

Believe it or not, some people would prefer having a good Fallout game over a TES game set in the Fallout universe.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:25 pm

Graphics =/= same game.

Besides the engine, combat, and some reused assets, there really isn't much similarities between New Vegas and Fallout 3. New Vegas tries(and succeeds in my opinion) to be like the originals, focusing on things like story, writing, characters, and choices, while Fallout 3 was more of a Bethesda/sandbox game in terms of defining qualities.

Believe it or not, some people would prefer having a good Fallout game over a TES game set in the Fallout universe.

*waves his hand around*
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:13 am

There are two Fallout series. I fell in love with Bethesda's Fallout, a.k.a. Fallout 3. Obsidian showed me what a new game in the original Fallout series would be like, and wound up showing me that Bethesda's Fallout is the only Fallout for me.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:16 pm

I like Fallout 3, btw some guy above me was jiving about killing easy super mutants guess he never fought super mutant overlords. Anyway Fall out 3 is just a better game to look at and experience. Just look at the post here any time some one says they like fallout 3 the new vegas fans take it as an offense and flat out insult fallout 3 in return. All i have to do is look at the dam screens shots for NV and i can tell it looks a hell of a lot like fallout 3 geez they use the same engine. Sorry but they cant be that dang different yada yada different story ect. Come on gimmie a break If you hate fallout 3 that much how can you like fallout nv, again same game engine as fallout 3. Im sorry i dont belive that less is more. All i see here is 2 different types of gamers one that really likes bethseda's style the other basically dont. If you didnt like fallout 3 then you probably would not like any of Bethsedas other games.


Yep, overlords? And they were added in a *drumroll* DLC you had to buy! While Vanilla NV on the other hand already offers such challenges.

BTW: LoL, so now we are judging quality by screenshots? That's kinda ...short-sighted, seems like you haven't even played NV at all judging by those comments, thus having no real opinion on it.
Good thing I am not dismissing Morrowind the same way while just looking at your... erm, avatar. :tongue:

EDIT: Nope, it seems you http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1145953-why-did-you-write-this-line/page__view__findpost__p__16765726

Believe it or not, some people would prefer having a good Fallout game over a TES game set in the Fallout universe.


Basicly this & this & this. When I see the name I expect 'that SOMETHING' that made the series.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:00 am

Its funny, but when Bethesda makes fallout 4 using strongest points from both games "fans"of fallout 1/2 will still say that it is terrible and New Vegas rocks. The only real difference was amount of six content while eveything else was mostly reworked modes from Fallout 3 Nexus.
Both games were awesome but i found nothing similar to originals. Completey different games. Its just this patiotism too the old stuff. Nothing else. New Vegas just add around 30 pointless quests.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:52 pm

Errr, actually the damage threshold could be too considered as a critical gameplay factor. ;)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:25 am

Both Games are awesome it depends on personal tastes. How would you compare Mandarin and Orange??? :banghead:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:32 am

Both Games are awesome it depends on personal tastes. How would you compare Mandarin and Orange??? :banghead:

When it comes to which one is the better Fallout game then it's fine to compare them.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:24 pm

Fallout 2. Oh not a choice? New Vegas then.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:31 pm

and Fallout 3 was insanely easy, even on Very Hard mode I could kill anything at level 1, it was dumb.



Prove it! Video it, you leaving the Vault walking all the way to Old Olney and kill some Deathclaws, No Mods, No Alien Blaster, show me your level (1), the diff setting (V.Hard) and your skills. And the enitre journey to Old O and you fighting the deathclaws. And your word will be Gold in my books. :icecream:
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