So I heard that gamesas is having trouble raising money to develop V13, and I was thinking of some ways for them to raise the money.

1. Load Screens are an inevitable of programs, and generally i hate commercials and advertisemants. But I could live with some tastefully done ads on the load screen. For example an old "pre-war poster" advertising a Nuka-Cola bottle that look suspiciously like a coca-cola bottle.

2. Quests can integrate advertising techniques too, like F3 with the "Nuka-cola" challenge.

3. You can have a city named after a company like Nike, because there's a huge Nike Factory or billboard by the town.

Agree or oppose;
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Personally I think it would ruin the feel of the game by having endorsemants for modern products in a game set so many years ago.. sure i know some of the ones still around today originated back then but still.. however on the plus side if it meant the difference between the game being developed or dropped... its a tough call!

Guys, you are missing the point. The funds gamesas needs for the Fallout MMO are critically required at the beginning of the project( maybe in installments) in order to maintain the license and proceed with paying the developers and continuing to pay for rent and admin costs.

Eventually, when the Fallout MMO is released, added revenue will be a good thing to keep the developer interested in supporting and expanding on the game.

The best way I can think of right now to raise money other than someone buying a large equity stake in the company and its Fallout MMO is to have a dutch auction style fund raising ala the google IPO.

Even though IPLY currently trades on the OTCBB, if the management is shrewd they could decide to setup a marketplace to sell IPLY shares and warrants directly to Fallout MMO fans.

The rabid fans will buy whatever they can afford by paying market price for the shares issued with warrants/options for discounts on additional purchases once the stock picks up.

I know that Herve Caen is raising funds privately from more bankrolled investors but it does not hurt to let the fans in on the development so they can enjoy the fruit of their investment and even profit from the money that the Fallout MMO brings in.

There are a bunch of rabid fans here and on other sites that would surely get lots of people on board to buy newly issued shares in order to fund the game. This will also give them more incentives on the success of the game and evangelizing it to their friends and peer group of gamers.

Unless gamesas has the funds and is playing possum while getting the project up and running, this idea could be a revolutionary and first of its kind way of game development fund raising at least a few hundred thousand if not million that is gamesas Management is paying attention

If this were going on and not diluting existing shareholders more than the cozy deals that management have, investors in gamesas could be emboldened to want to buy more shares and support the stock price and hence the company so maybe a bigger company can lend a hand with more capital via a stake but not at these bottom basemant prices.

Hear that Herve

"Load Screens are an inevitable of programs, and generally i hate commercials and advertisemants. But I could live with some tastefully done ads on the load screen. For example an old "pre-war poster" advertising a Nuka-Cola bottle that look suspiciously like a coca-cola bottle."

bad idea. I for one would not buy the game if it had any form of advertising what so ever.

i'll tell u what is really refreshing is driving in korea where there are no billboards.
its quite nice

Commersials could work if remade to look part of game instead of the usual glittery style. A billboard with a tarnished commercial sign could look like it was supposed to be in the game from beginning though. They just have to look enough eroded though.

haha this may be a stupid idea, but they could advertise with like coca cola or something, kinda like they do with T2 on dr.pepper or how they did Jeff Gordon with pepsi. Change the outside label with a Nuka Cola label but for only a limited time only, so most people would buy the coke not knowing whats being advertised but, hey thats a great way to earn some serious money for a project like this.

I would have no problem with load screens as adverts. I think it is a novel approach to marketing. However, I do not want to have to load a video and sit through the video, then wait for my game to load.

However, I do not want in game content to resemble anything near advertising. I do not want to see Obama billboards in game. It kills the suspension of disbelief.

Load screens should be a simple graphic ad "Drink Coca Cola." Game theme the ads too to make it fun. Ad the 50's look to it, etc.

...wow.

Just... Wow.

The fact this is something even up for discussion deeply, deeply troubles me.

Ahh the voice of the upstream elite gamer. My way or no way. Let's ignore the fact that sometimes subsidization of operational funds maybe mandatory just to play. Well if you would rather play Fallout Online in your mind than your computer than by all means raise a fuss and dance the dance of self interest. The rest of us would rather actually play a game than pout. Though I would agree than paying a monthly fee on top of loading advertisemants would be insulting.

If IPLY haven't secured funding for V13 already, I'm afraid we'll never see it.

Believe it or not, I am a hardcoe anti-capitalist, anarchist, and consumer advocate. Furthermore, I am a huge fan of Fallout. However, I understand the grim realities of living in a capitalist world. I questioned myself quite seriously as to what the benefits to in game advertising may be.

Lower cost of the game
Lower cost of subscription
More money to spend on continuous game development
etc.

What are the negatives

I may have to stare at a coca cola ad while loading

I think that this would be quite acceptable. However, I do draw the line at streaming video because the amount of bandwidth and processing power required will cause a greater lag in loading times and decrease my gaming experience a lot.

Think about the success of HULU and realize how a little bit of advertising or "selling out" may improve the product exponentially. This is a solid business plan.

We live in a capitalist world, and until that changes, advertising isn't going anywhere.

Well according to now infamous lawsuit from Bethesda, gamesas didn't secure the funding of the Game in time, but gamesas say that they are wrong. I'd rather believe gamesas, anyway.

Here's hoping for a Beatles-themed quest on V13.

I can help Cris to rob a bank and make some cash.I want only 20 % from the loot ....

I am the Formless in all forms.Strenght si the only measure ,all things can be resolved with violence and blood share.

Believe it or not, I am a hardcoe anti-capitalist, anarchist, and consumer advocate. Furthermore, I am a huge fan of Fallout. However, I understand the grim realities of living in a capitalist world. I questioned myself quite seriously as to what the benefits to in game advertising may be.

Lower cost of the game
Lower cost of subscription
More money to spend on continuous game development
etc.

What are the negatives

I may have to stare at a coca cola ad while loading

I think that this would be quite acceptable. However, I do draw the line at streaming video because the amount of bandwidth and processing power required will cause a greater lag in loading times and decrease my gaming experience a lot.

Think about the success of HULU and realize how a little bit of advertising or "selling out" may improve the product exponentially. This is a solid business plan.

We live in a capitalist world, and until that changes, advertising isn't going anywhere.


So you would actually want a Fallout type world to be reality? Definately not something I agree with.


gamesas needs money and a hell of a lot of it to make this game come to reality, you don't just wake up and have 30+ million in the bank one day. http://www.CyberneticPunks.com hardcoe Gaming Community

Well there's still the possibility that gamesas can create a progam for anyone to give money for the game. Of course there's the risk that the MMO might never happen (God, I hope that's not the case), but good things have risks.

If I had a credit card, I'd give out about a 100 bucks! Combine that with a lot of Fallout fans, and you've got some good amount of funding. Sorry if it's not a good idea.

Here's hoping for a Beatles-themed quest on V13.

So basically gamesas would sell the game to the consumer before the game is even made. It would be an interesting business model if a gaming company started doing that.

Nuka-Cola

There I said it. >:+)

So basically gamesas would sell the game to the consumer before the game is even made. It would be an interesting business model if a gaming company started doing that.

Well not exactly selling the game, fans that have a lot of cash could give some money to gamesas without buying the game, funding it without anything in exchange. Sure, it could also work with gamesas selling the game in a download form before release. It's a good way to secure funding, but that also means that the release date sales would be smaller than if there wasn't this system.

Here's hoping for a Beatles-themed quest on V13.

Maybe this wouldnt be the best path but, like someone is developing a mmo for "that blue ray thing", someone else could share their project with other guys that "rox around"

What exactly are you trying to say? Where I'm from "rox around" means to have six. And I've heard old that when old people talk about viagra, they use euphemisms one of which could be "that blue ray thing". as in, "I got that blue ray thing from the doctor, and then me and the Mrs. really "rox'd around"