Here is an excellent and informative set of videos on how Fallout's Nuclear War may have occurred:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPEBROvR9w&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6W6WqQkM_0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eruJyOeYrWk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7HUNan4Nb4&feature=related

**NOTE Replace the Soviet Union with PRC**


How the Strategic Air Command would have operated during the "Great War"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWiMGbnhUMo&feature=related


Information for Aircrews:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkTW2xAEc7U&feature=PlayList&p=DCCF21B7D161AE26&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3

They're wearing my avatar's uniform!

Your avatar is from the rather grainy photo resembles a member of the Strategic Air Command's Elite Guard(they were specially trained Air Police/Security Police who were assigned to defend SAC HQ).

Here's some background on your avatar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufj0ZzUYOLk

LOL @ First Strike.

Ivan's missiles were NOT anywhere as accurate as portrayed in that movie. The CEP (Translation: Draw a circle around the target, the CEP is the size of the circle) for the Soviet's sub launched missiles in 1984 was around 1500 meters. Which means, there is a much better than average chance that whatever HARDENED target they had would survive a first strike. That whole movie was nothing more than an attempt to scare people into allowing the US military to FINALLY modernize its nuclear arsenal.

Lets play this game, lets say Ivan pressed the button. Subs would be used mainly to take out comm sites, air bases and very high priority soft targets. Some WOULD be targeted at the Dakotas, but it would be sheer luck if they took out any silos. They'd be lobbing RVs to DENY the US the ability to launch (Even a near miss kicks up a metric crud-ton of debris that could play havoc with a missile) Plus the silos would still have to be sealed until after the blast to protect the missiles.

And one other thing: Once the alert went out, we could have missiles airborne under 5 minutes. WELL Under. The whole bolt out of the blue attack with the Russians was HIGHLY unlikely.

Not to mention the Americans would have subs firing their missiles, have planes about to drop their nukes, and have missiles in the air before the Russian missiles could detonate.

These are the targets that supposedly the Soviet Union would have chosen during a nuclear conflict(Note some of these locations are now highly outdated, but then again this list was promulgated in the 80's).

ALABAMA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Gunter AFB (Montgomery), Maxwell AFB (Montgomery), Redstone Arsenal (Huntsville).
Secondary:
Anniston, Birmingham, Selma, Mobile.
Tertiary:
Muscle Shoals, Gadsden, Childersburg, Tuscaloosa, Phenix City (Columbus GA.)

ALASKA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Warning Radar Network at Eielson AFB (Fairbanks), Elmensdorf AFB (Anchorage), Fort Richardson.
Secondary:
Adak Island, Shermya Island (space radar), Clear (BMEWS radar)
Tertiary: none

ARIZONA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Davis-Monthan AFB at Tucson (Titan missiles, area within a line con- necting Nogales, Cochise, Mammoth, Eloy, south to Mexican border), Luke AFB (Glendale), Marine Corps Air Station (Yuma), Williams AFB (Chandler), Yuma Proving Ground.
Secondary:
Gilbert, Perryville.
Tertiary:
Phoenix

ARKANSAS (community info and maps)
Primary:
Little Rock AFB (Titan missiles, area within a line connecting Shirley, Newport, Des Arc, Little Rock, Russellville, Nogo, back to Shirley), Blytheville AFB (SAC bombers).
Secondary:
Pine Bluff, West Memphis (Memphis Tenn.)
Tertiary:
Fort Smith, Texarkana, Little Rock

CALIFORNIA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Alameda NAS, Castle AFB (Merced), Beale AFB (Marysville), Edwards AFB (Kern), El Toro (Santa Ana), George AFB (Victoryville), Hamilton AFB (Marin), March AFB (Riverside), Mather AFB (SAC bombers, Sacramento), McClellan AFB (Sacramento), Miramar NAS (San Diego), Norton AFB (San Bernardino), Oxnard AFB Point Mugu (Point Hueneme), Travis AFB (Fairfield), Vandenberg AFB (Lompoc).
Secondary:
San Francisco (area within a line connecting Pt. Reyes Station, St Hel- ena, Antioch, Palo Alto, Redwood City, and along the coast to Pt. Reyes Station again), San Jose, El Centro, China Lake, Camp Pendleton, Fort Ord, Twentynine Palms, Lemoore, Portola, Los Angeles (area within a line connecting Malibu, Camarillo, Lake Arrowhead, Perris, Laguna, and along the coast to Malibu again), Oro Grande, Oceanside, San Diego, Lathrope, Santa Barbara, Oxnard, Ventura, Thousand Oaks, Mt. Laguna, Mill Valley.
Tertiary:
Bakersfield, Barstow, Banning, Gilroy, Milford, Modesto, Monterey, Mojave, Sacramento, Santa Rosa, Stockton, Salinas, Fresno, Ridgecrest, Lancaster, Wrightwood, Yermo, Victorville, Warner Springs.

COLORADO (community info and maps)
Primary:
Colorado Springs (NORAD HQ.), Warren AFB Complex (Minuteman missiles, area within a line connecting Grover, Briggsdale, Fort Morgan, Sedgwick, and along state line to Grover again), Fort Carson.
Secondary:
Denver, Pueblo
Tertiary:
Aurora, Boulder, Cheraw, Greeley, Pueblo-Boone area, Broomfield, Rocky Flats (targer is 10 miles west of Sedalia).

CONNECTICUT (community info and maps)
Primary:
Brookley Field, Groten-New London.
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Bristol, Bridgeport, Danbury, Hartford, New Haven, Norwalk, Stamford.

DELAWARE (community info and maps)
Primary:
Dover AFB
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Wilmington, Odessa, New Castle

FLORIDA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Cape Canaveral, Elgin AFB (Okalossa), Homestead AFB, Jacksonville NAS, Key West (Caribbean Joint Task Force), MacDill AFB (Tampa), Mayport (Jacksonville), Orlando AFB, Patrick AFB (Cocoa), St. Petersbutg NAS, Tyndall AFB (Panama City), McCoy AFB, Pensacola.
Secondary:
Miami.
Tertiary:
Port St. Joe, Tallahassee, Gainesville, Daytona Beach, Titusville, Sarasota, Ft. Myers, Palm Beach, Boca Raton, Fort Lauderdale.

GEORGIA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Warner-Robins AFB (SAC bombers, Macon), Dobbins AFB (Marietta), Fort Benning, Fort Stewart, King's Bay, Moody AFB, Atlanta.
Secondary:
Albany, Brunswick, Savannah.
Tertiary:
Augusta, Columbus, Stockbridge, Marietta.

HAWAII (community info and maps)
Primary:
Honolulu area (all of Oahu except Waimea-Kahuku area & Makapuu Point).
Secondary: none
Tertiary: none

IDAHO (community info and maps)
Primary:
Mountail Home AFB.
Secondary: none
*Tetiary:
Boise

ILLINOIS (community info and maps)
Primary:
Chanute AFB (Rantoul), Scott AFB (Military Airlift Command HQ.,Belleville).
Secondary:
Chicago, East St. Louis, Springfield.
Tertiary:
Alton, Aurora, Bloomington-Normal, Champaign, Decatur, East Dubuque, Des Plaines, Freeport, Rockford, Zion, Moline, Peoria, Joliet, Elgin.

INDIANA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Grissom AFB (Stratotankers, Peru).
Secondary:
Crane, Jeffersonville (Louisville, Ky.)
Tertiary:
Anderson, Evansville, Fort Wayne, Gary, Elkhart, Indianapolis, Lafayette, Muncie, New Albany, South Bend, Terre Haute.

IOWA (community info and maps)
Primary: none
Secondary:
Burlington, Sioux City.
Tertiary:
Cedar Rapids, Council Bluffs, Dubuque, Des Moines, Davenport, Waterloo.

KANSAS (community info and maps)
Primary:
McConnel AFB complex (Titan missiles, Stratotankers, area within a line connecting Eureka, Arlington, Attica, Caldwel, Arkansas City and back to Eureka again). Schilling AFB (Salina), Forbes AFB (Topeka).
Secondary:
Fort Riley, Olathe.
Tertiary:
Elwood (St. Joseph, MO.), Levenworth, Manhattan, Topeka, Kansas City, DeSoto.

KENTUCKY (community info and maps)
Primary: none
Secondary:
Fort Campell (Christian), Fort Knox (Harkin), Louisville, Richmond.
Tertiary:
Covinton (Cincinnati, OH.), Henderson (Evansville IN.), Owensboro, Paducah.

LOUISIANA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Barksdale AFB (SAC bombers, Shreveport), England AFB (Alexandria).
Secondary:
Fort Polk (Leesvile), New Orleans.
Tertiary:
Baton Rouge, Sterlington, Monroe, Lade Charles, Lafayette, New Iberia.

MAINE (community info and maps)
Primary:
Loring AFB, Kittery (Pease AFB at Portsmouth, NH.).
Secondary:
Brunswick, Charleston, Franklin.
Tertiary:
Auburn, Bangor, Portland.

MARYLAND (community info and maps)
Primary:
Washington D.C., Camp David-Mt. Weather complex (Presidential survival and command post), Andrews AFB, Fort George Meade, Aberdeen Proving Ground.
*Seconary:
Baltimore-Washington D.C. area (everything within a line connecting Gaithersburg, Reisterstown, Bel Air, Aberdeen, Rock Hall, Annapolis, La Plata, Riverside and the Virginia state line)
Tertiary:
Lexington Park, Wheaton.

MASSACHUSETTS (community info and maps)
Primary:
Fall River, Fort Devin (Hyer), Otis AFB (Buzzards Bay), Westover AFB (area of Holyoke).
Secondary:
Boston, Springfield-Chicopee-Holyoke area.
Tertiary:
Fitchberg, Nantucket, New Bedford, Pawtucket (Providence, RI.) Lowell, Worcester.

MICHIGAN (community info and maps)
Primary:
Sawyer AFB (SAC bombers, Gwinn), Xinchelee AFB (SAC bombers, Sault Ste. Marie), Selfridge AFB (Mt. Clemens), Wurtsmith AFB (SAC bombers).
Secondary:
Detroit (area within a line connecting Pontiac, Ann Arbor, and Monroe east to state line).
Tertiary:
Alpens, Bay City, Battle Creek, Benton Harbor, Escanaba, Sault St. Marie, Midland, Saginaw, Muskegan, Flint area, Grand Rapids, Port Huron, St. Claire, Lansing, Kalamazoo, Jackson.

MINNESOTA (community info and maps)
Primary: none
Secondary:
Minneapolis-St. Paul, Duluth.
*Teriary:
Anoke, Forest Lake, Rochester.

MISSISSIPPI (community info and maps)
Primary:
Columbus AFB.
Secondary:
Biloxi, Gulfport, Meridian.
Tertiary:
Jackson, Meridian Station, Pascagoula.

MISSOURI (community info and maps)
Primary:
Whiteman AFB complex ( Minuteman missiles, area within a line connecting Freeman, Richmond, Arrow Rock, California, Gravois Mills, Osceola, Stockton, Sheldon, Rich Hill, west to state line to Freeman again).
Secondary:
St. Louis, Kansas City, Fort Leonard Wood.
Tertiary:
Columbia, Springfield, St. Joseph.

MONTANA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Glascow AFB, Malmstrom AFB complex (Minuteman missiles, all area within a line connecting Devon, Highwood, a point 10 miles north of Winifred, Winnett, Melville, Neihart, Wolf Creek, Augusta, Ethridge, and back to Levon).
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Butte, Billings, Helena, Missoula.

NEBRASKA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Warren AFB complex (Minuteman missiles, all area southwest of a line connecting Henry, Oshkosh, and Chappell, to state line), Omaha (Offut AFB, SAC Headquarters).
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Dakota City (Sioux City, IA.), Lincoln.

NEVADA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Nellis AFB (Las Vegas).
Secondary:
Hawthorne.
Tertiary:
Fallon, Reno.

NEW HAMPSHIRE (community info and maps)
Primary:
Pease AFB (SAC bombers, Portsmouth), Portsmouth Harbor.
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Manchester, Nashua (and everything within 20 miles of Lowell, MA.).

NEW JERSEY (community info and maps)
Primary:
Fort Dix-McGuire AFB complex (Trenton-Wrightstown), Lakehurst NAS, Fort Monmouth, Perth Amboy.
Secondary:
McKee City, Philadelphia (area within 10 mjles of the Delaware River from Pennsville to Cherry Hill and within 15 miles of the river from Cherry Hill to Trenton), Rockaway (area east of a line from Franklin to Somerville to the state line), Trenton.
Tertiary:
Colt's Neck, Lakehurst, Long Branch, Middletown, Millville.

NEW MEXICO (community info and maps)
Primary:
Alamagordo, Cannon AFB (also area east to state line), Kirtland AFB, Walker AFB (Roswell), White Sands (Las Cruces).
Secondary:
Albuquerque.
Tertiary:
Gallup.

NEW YORK (community info and maps)
Primary:
Griffiss AFB (SAC bombers, Utica-Rome), Plattsburgh AFB (SAC bombers), Stewart AFB (Newburgh).
Secondary:
New York City area (all south of Stony Point and west of Stony Brook to state line), Buffalo, Syracuse, Watervliet.
Tertiary:
Albany, Binghamton, Brookshaven (Brookhaven National Laboratory), Schenectady, Troy, Rochester.

NORTH CAROLINA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Cherry Point (Havelock), Pope AFB (Fayetteville), Seymour-Johnson AFB (SAC bombers, Goldsboro).
Secondary:
Camp Lejeune, Fort Bragg (Fayetteville), Southport, Jacksonville-Midway Park area, Fort Fisher.
Tertiary:
Asheville (south to Henersonville), Carolina Beach, Charlette, Durham, Graham, Greensboro, Morrisville, Raleigh, Wilmington, Winston-Salem.

NORTH DAKOTA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Grand Forks AFB complex (Minuteman missiles, area within a line con- necting Wahalla, Grand Forks, Tower City, Valley City, Devil's Lake, Sarles and the Canadian border), Minot AFB complex (Minuteman missiles, an area within a line connecting Westhope, Eckman, Minot, a point 15 miles south of Towner, Harvey, Mercer, a point 10 miles north of Beulah, Tioga, Portal, and the Canadian border. Danger area extends 10 miles into Canada between Sarles and Wahalla, and between Portal and Westhope).
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Grand Forks, Fargo.

OHIO (community info and maps)
Primary:
Lockbourne AFB (Rickenbacker AFB on some maps), Wright-Patterson AFB.
Secondary:
Cleveland, Youngstown-Warren area.
Tertiary:
Akron, Bellaire, Canton, Columbia, Dayton, Lima, Mansfield, Middletown, Miamisberg, Springfield, Steubenville, Windham, Toledo, Vandalia.

OKLAHOMA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Altus AFB, Clinton-Sherman AFB (Custer), Tinker AFB (Oklahoma City), Vance AFB (Enid).
Secondary:
Fort Sill (Lawton).
Tertiary:
El Reno, Tulsa, 10 miles southeast of McAlester, Oklahoma City.

OREGON (community info and maps)
Primary:
Adair AFB (Mulheur).
Secondary:
Portland, Mt. Hebo.
Tertiary:
Canby, Eugene, Klamath Falls, Madras, Salem.

PENNSYLVANIA (community info and maps)
Primary: none
Secondary:
Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Scranton, Willow Grove.
Tertiary:
Allentown, Altoona, Beaver, Bethlehem, Chester, Erie, Harrisburg, York, Johnstown, Lancaster, Natrona Heights, Mechanicsburg, Reading, Waynesboro.

RHODE ISLAND (community info and maps)
Primary: none
Secondary:
Newport, Quonset Point.
Tertiary:
Providence, Westerly.

SOUTH CAROLINA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Charleston complex (submarine base, area east of Summerville between Goose Creek and Folly Beach), Myrtle Beach AFB, Shaw AFB.
Secondary:
Parris Island Marine Base.
Tertiary:
Aiken, Columbia, Greenville, Greer, Hardeeville (Savannah, Georgia), North Augusta.

SOUTH DAKOTA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Ellsworth AFB complex (Minuteman missiles, SAC bombers, entire area within a line connecting Albion, Montana to a point 10 miles north of Faith, Midland, point 10 miles south of Velvidere, Scenic, Sturgis, Spearfish, and along state line to Albion again).
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Rapid City, Sioux Falls.

TENNESSEE (community info and maps)
Primary: none
Secondary:
Oak Ridge National Laboratory (Anderson), Memphis.
Tertiary:
Alcoa, Bristol, Chattanooga, Knoxville, Nashville, Signal Mountain.

TEXAS (community info and maps)
Primary:
Bergstrom AFB (Austin), Brooks AFB (San Antonio), Carswell AFB (SAC bombers, Fort Worth), Dyess AFB (SAC bombers, Abilene), Goodfellow AFB (San Angelo), Kelly-Lackland AFB (San Antonio), Laredo AFB, Laughlin AFB (Del Rio), Randolf AFB (Universal City), Reese AFB (Lubbock), Sheppard AFB (Wichita Falls), Webb AFB (Big Spring).
Secondary:
Beeville, Corpus Christi, Fort Bliss (El Paso), Fort Hood (Killeen), Houston, Kingsville, Sherman-Dennison, Texarkana.
Tertiary:
Alice, Beaumont, Brownsville, Bryan, Caddo Lake, Dallas, Freeport, Galveston, Harlington, Lake Jackson, Longview, McAllen, Midland, Odessa, Tyler, Waco.

UTAH (community info and maps)
Primary:
Hill AFB (Ogden).
Secondary:
Dugway Proving Ground (Chemical Warfare Center, Tooele).
Tertiary:
Salt Lake City, Orem-Provo.

VERMONT (community info and maps)
Primary: none
Secondary:
Tertiary:
Burlington.

VIRGINIA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Leadership bomb and fallout shelter (Mount Weather) Berryville, Washington D.C. area (see Maryland), Cape Charles AFB, Dulles Inter-national Airport, Langley AFB (Hampton), Norfolk-Portsmouth, Oceana NAS (Virginia Beach).
Secondary:
Richmond, Newport News, Mt. Vernon, Radford.
Tertiary:
Blackstone, Chincoteague, Ft. Eustis, Hopewell, Lynchberg, Manassas, Petersburg, Guantico, Roanoke, Yorktown.

WASHINGTON (community info and maps)
Primary:
Bremerton (submarine base), Fairchild AFB (SAC bombers, Spokane), McChord AFB (Tacoma).
Secondary:
Everett, Oak Harbor, Richland (Hanford reactor and storage complex), Seattle (naval complex, Tacoma (Ft. Lewis), Walla-Walla.
Tertiary:
Copalis Beach, Spokane, Vancouver.

WEST VIRGINIA (community info and maps)
Primary:
Leadership bomb and fallout shelter (Greenbrier Resort) White Sulphur Springs.
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Charleston, Cedar Grove, Huntington, Wheeling (area north of Moundsville).

WISCONSIN (community info and maps)
Primary: none
Secondary:
Madison.
Tertiary:
Appletonc Eau Claire, Green Bay, Kenosha, Miquon, Milwaukee, Onalaska, Oshkosh, Racine, Superior, Waukesha.

WYOMING (community info and maps)

Primary: Warren AFB (Minuteman missiles, area within a line connecting Cheyenne, Federal, point 10 miles northwest of Wheatland, Guernsey, and along the state line to Cheyenne again).
Secondary: none
Tertiary:
Casper.

Crazy Ivan didn't have a decent first-strike capability until the 70's and 80's with the advent of more accurate MIRV ICBMs, supersonic bomber-launched cruise missile, long-range SCUDs, and submarine platforms. From 1945-1974 the U.S. would've crushed the world with a first strike. Granted the Reds would've incinerated our power grids with a handful of atmospheric detonations making even a survivable scenario a Dark Age unto itself. Read up on Wikipedia about the effects of EMP from a nuclear atmosperic detonation, a little goes a long way to turning the 1st World into Mad Max.

You forgot Detroit and Selfridge ANGB. Detroit for steel processing and machine tools, Selfridge for the inflight refuelling of any surviving bombers and national guard post-nuclear aid capability.

Selfridge AFB is listed as a primary target, and Detroit as a secondary.

In Ohio I think that was ment to say Columbus, not Columbia. Columbus is the state capital, Columbia is a hamlet near Cincinatti

And blowing up Dayton would be pointless after blowing up Wright-Patt, since they're in the same place.

Anyways, if only a similar list existed for China.

It's interesting that Vancouver's listed as a tertiary target under Washington state.

Vancouver is a city in Washington State, I'm not sure why you find that odd?
http://www.cityofvancouver.us/Default.asp

I live only a few miles away from Y-12 in Oak Ridge. So if even the slightest hint of war I will be gone in minutes.

i live in southern cali.. id be toast..
so many bases here, san onofre nuclear reactor, the border.

I would be fine in the primary attack but I live just south of Cleveland so I'd be fried in the second wave, since all highways lead to Tertiary targets or the already exploded Wright-Patterson base . Some of my family lives in Winston-Salem, NC so they would die in the third wave of attacks, but they might evacuate to the mountains since they would have plently of warning by then.

Most of those target lists are irrelevant to Fallout's setting. Keep in mind it's an alternate history and many of those bases were post-divergence developments. That divergence has never been specifically defined, but was set at somepoint in the 1940s. Just as an example, most US ICBM launch sites weren't developed until later then that.

Well according to that long-ass list, the great state of Texas would have been transformed into an irradiated [censored] hole of enormous proportions. I thought it strange that Nasa wasn't on the target list, but with every other inch of Texas bombed to hell, it wouldn't have mattered I guess.

And regarding Alaska, I'm suprised Fort Yukon was not on the target list at all.

I'd say hope you're within 10 miles of those priority targets, then you'll be fortunate enough to be vaporized, leave a permanent shadow, be turned into ash, leave a rad-scoured skeleton, or be burned alive instantly. Screw putting up with 1000 rad background for MONTHS and perhaps 100 counts for years after the bombs go off. Not to mention all the fallout, disease, instant famine, and the immediate collapse of all law and order. Watch Threads by the BBC, they give very detailed narration on what's happening to those poor Manchesterites after the big kaboom. Not me brother, I'm looking the mushroom cloud in the eye, throwing up 2 middle fingers, and eating a .45 ACP.

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