My fallout 4 idea : Fallout Series Discussion

» Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:25 am

make it all happen all around the us

Hmpf, Well some Other Countries need apiece of the Action Australia!! Imagine Mutated Kangaroos!
Or a Giant Emu

That sure would be scary I would [censored] my pants if I saw a Giant Emu attatcking me lol

» Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:50 pm

Hmpf, Well some Other Countries need apiece of the Action Australia!! Imagine Mutated Kangaroos!
Or a Giant Emu

That sure would be scary I would [censored] my pants if I saw a Giant Emu attatcking me lol

Just imagine the potential for Crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin referances.

On the matter of the original subject, I think there are already several post apocolyptic alien games of note. This is just a post apocolyptic game (straight out) which is what makes it fairly unique. It's only real competition being say S.T.A.L.K.E.R. right now, although arguably that game isn't truely post apocolyptic (it simply takes place in a disaster site).

Mutants (we need a larger bestiary actually), raiders, etc... are all good. If Aliens are involved it should be in a very limited capacity, certainly no invasions.

Otherwise I never got the impression that China won, quite the contrary actually. All we know is that Liberty Prime never got off the ground. Then again as I understood the files on it, Liberty Prime was also intended to be as much a symbol to rally behind as anything. Truth be told it's contribution in a war (even as we see it operational) would be fairly minimal. It's both land based, and can only be in one place at a time. Sure it can turn the tide in clearing a stronghold (so to speak) in an army vs. army fight, but overall?

Now granted if they built that one as a prototype, used it as a symbol, and then managed to start mass producing them... well that would have been something else entirely.

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» Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:00 am

No. As has been said, the aliens in the Fallout universe are a gag and nothing more. To add aliens into the mix would be like adding aliens to...say...a Max Max movie. Does that sound good?

I think it would be a better idea to reveal that President Eden is actually a molerat sitting at a control panel inside a giant computer. That's right. Malcolm McDowell is the voice of an especially wily molerat. At the end of Fallout 4 he ingests a strain of FEV that transforms him into a Voltron-style giant molerat and you have to re-activate Liberty Prime to fight him...again, Voltron-style.

yes hell yes.

» Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:55 am

The aliens were a gag in the Fallout universe. It was overplayed and made realistic in Fallout 3, the writers believing they had been continuing the story of the mysterious UFO from Fallout 2. It wasn't funny in Fallout 3 like it had been in the previous ones. It was black comedy originally as government conspiracies were constantly made fun of and had became part of the original framework of Fallout 2, like how all the Vaults were social experiments. Liberty Prime, while what he said was funny, was badly done and became a huge walking plot hole, since he should have been a pile of junk sitting in the citadel as a huge turret or a slow lumbering pile of junk with no weapons that should have been easily stopped. His weapons working was total [censored] if you read the reports and the fact he had been a 200 year old thrown-together-robot built out-of-necessity-as-a-walking-talking-defense-budget-splurge, another black comic joke I thought was funny till it worked, to help the US fight an enemy like the Chinese that they lost to. It should have only been a joke and that it, it would have been better if the Enclave assaulted the Citadel and Liberty Prime, in its last use of helpfulness fired off a blast that vaporized the attackers. That would have made sense.

aliens are a under played faluable resource for fallout and any other game of its type

» Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:14 am

I think there's sort of a thin line with aliens in the Fallout universe. I agree with some of the other posters in that it's mostly a gag when you run into them. Fallout 1 and 2, Aliens were along the same sort of random encounters as running into the Tardis, Pariah Dog (oh, how I hate that dog...,) or the many Monty Python references. Even the "Aliens" (Wanamingos) you run into in Fallout 2 are later explained as genetic experiments gone wrong - not something of extra-terrestrial origin.

I don't have a problem with seeing an occasional crashed alien spaceship, or maybe if I was exploring some sort of military base and found a dissected alien. I actually rather enjoy the occasional encounter with them, even Fallout 3 it was a sort of neat thing to come across (though if I were to get picky I think they should have stuck with the archetypal "flying saucer" of 50's pulp sci-fi.) As a "oh, that's interesting" sort of thing, I think it's a fitting addition. But if you cross that line you're going into the territory of making a completely different game entirely.

An Alien Invasion in a post-apocalyptic world isn't such a bad concept on it's own. (Battlefield Earth was a pretty lame movie, but it wasn't actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.) But as a Fallout game, I think it's absolutely pushing the limit. If there were another game similar to Fallout but not actually Fallout, I might buy that game. But I'd have serious reservations if I saw such a theme in a Fallout-titled game.

It just doesn't go with the underlying themes of the game. In my opinion, at least. It wouldn't be any different than having you follow the Knights of the Round Table around the Wastes, or travelling with Dr Who to try and stop a catastrophe in the game. It would be an unfitting change to make a one-off gag encounter into a major plot point.

» Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:16 pm

what about
you know that "no one knows who fired the first missile"

it was the freaking Aliens o/
:nod:
that would be something funny

» Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:58 am

what about
you know that "no one knows who fired the first missile"

it was the freaking Aliens o/
:nod:
that would be something funny

If you consider throwing some fundamental Fallout lore out of the window to be funny, then yeah

» Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:01 am

If you consider throwing some fundamental Fallout lore out of the window to be funny, then yeah

ahh, come on
it's not like they will ever really tell us who started it anyway

and i think it would be funny, not that it would fit in the game

» Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:22 am

The spacecraft should be flyable, or at least can be salvaged for parts so you can build something you can drive around in. As for the alien invasion, its needs alot of thought. I mean, Fallout allows you to do what you want and tries not to bog you down in a storyline, and include a meaningless enemy in makes it sound pointless.