Wow, you guys are FAST


thats what i was hoping was the case, i can deal with it until i get more comfortable with GECK or someone else who is comes along and updates it(which is by far the more likely scenario)

thanks :fallout:

Hey folks,
i have a little problem. I try to run Fallout 3 Version 1.7 with all DLCs (Anchorage, The Pitt, Broken Steel, Lookout, Zeta) and the following overhauls / bigger mods:
FWE, MMM, EVE and WMK. I attend the FOIP load orders and use BOSS, but my game still crashes on start.

Here is my loadorder:

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow.esm
[X] RTS.esm
[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp
[X] Fellout-pipboylight.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[ ] CALIBRxMerchant.esp
[X] PersonalVertibird.esp
[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers.esp
[X] MTC Wasteland Travellers (Optional)- Crowded Cities less NPCs.esp
[X] BlackWolfs_Backpacks_GERMAN.esp
[X] HoverChair 0.4.2 - MK2.esp
[X] Radio Active.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKitsDV.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
[X] EVE Beta_0.9.2.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp
[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Spawns.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
[X] RTSpatch_RVW.esp
[X] Attentater's Wasteland Economy.esp
[X] Enhanced Weather - Rain and Snow in Fallout.esp
[X] Enhanced Weather - Weather Sounds in Interiors.esp
[X] Enhanced Weather - Sneak Bonus during Storms.esp
[X] Fellout-Full.esp
[X] Fellout-BrokenSteel.esp
[X] Fellout-PointLookout.esp
[X] Fellout-Zeta.esp
[X] CBO.esp
[X] CBO-Ausbildungslager.esp
[X] CBO_Medikamente.esp
[X] CBO - EXPBelohnung20Prozent.esp


I hope you can help me, just sit here for over two hours and try to solve this ... :shakehead:

Try disabling EVE. I have a similar load order and EVE messed things up for me.

You're using an outdated, incompatible version of EVE. The correct EVE file is called only EVE.esp

Thanks, I will try it.



Hm ... i looked at Fallout3Nexus, the 0.95 seems to be the current version!?


EDIT: i deactivated EVE and all compatbility-patches but nothing changes. F3 still crashes.

another edit: my fault. i didn't use the current EVE version 0.95. My EVE is still 0.92. I will download the current version and try it. I will post if it works or not ^^

And you have 9.2, but since the problem persists that's not the source.

Yes it is the source. he has 0.92, latest version is 0.95

Yeah, that's what I was saying, but I assumed that since he got rid of EVE it must've been something else. Oh well, you know better.

You're right sorry, missread that.

And yes another problem would be that he is using
WeaponModKitsDV.esp

Which is incompatible with all the other WMK addons and would cause a crash on startup.

Hm ... and how can i solve my problem? Use the current english version, right?

bingo

Fantastic - it works.
I've got the current version of EVE and WMK and everything is ok now. Thank you all

Hi guys,

I'm a total newb when it comes to adding things to Fallout and I'm having issues with crashes on start up.

Could you please (pretty please with sugar AND a cherry on top!) go through my load order and see where I'm going wrong?

The mods are set out according to the Overhaul Load Order except for the big chunk of mods at the end. They're a bit messy to be honest, but I've disabled all of the ones in the block of mess and the game still crashes on start-up.

Any tips or help would be amazing, I'm really pulling my hair out on this one!

Latest version of FOMM with FOSE:

Fallout 3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm

CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm

FOOK2 Main.esm
FOOK2 [W*NK] World and Neighbourhood Kit.esm
FOOK2 [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

FOOK2 Main.esp
FOOK2 [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.esp
FOOK2 [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp
FOOK2 Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Free Play After MQ.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - FOOK Support.esp

FWE - FOOK DLC Support.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release.esp
EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting and Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

LingsFinerThings.esm
LingsPrettyThings-SeducingWomen.esp
MegatonContracts-Linged.esp
arianacompanion.esm
brookecompanion.esm
ArefuExpandedByAzar.esm
Lings.esm
RRCompanionVault.esm
RR5MoreMales.esm
RR5MoreFemales.esm
RRGuards.esm
LingsFinerThings.esp
Vault_87_[Script_Reversion].esp
TL_Freeze.esp
[DIK]_DLC_Transition_Hotfix.esp
NVG_Activator_Crash_Fix_[Experimental].esp
Vault 101 Security Guard.esp
ArefuExpandedByAzar-Radio.esp
LingsPrettyThings.esp
LingsPrettyThings-BrokenSteel.esp
LingsMMM5patch.esp
Mannequin.esp
kikaiEquipment.esp
Tailor Maid.esp
OutFits.esp
P94-95.esp
Simms' Ammo.esp
Sally Fix 2.1.esp
LingsPrettyThings-FOOK2-MMM.esp
Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp
Tailor Maid PITT.esp
Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp
berniecompanion.esp
anoffertheycantrefuse.esm
Tailor Maid ZETA.esp
bzArmour.esp
bzBodySuits.esp
RR Companion Vault 20thCW Supply.esp
RR_Refurbished.esp
RR Vanilla Companion Integration.esp
RR Vanilla Companion Firing Fix.esp
RRWastelandPosters.esp
RR Companions - Elrawiel.esp

Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp

Crash on startup is usually due to a missing master (ESM file). Check that you have all the re-requisites. I seem to remember that Arefu expanded uses a hair mod, but I can't find any in your load order?

Thanks for the tips guys.

I disabled the 'LingsPrettyThings-SeducingWomen.esp' and the 'MegatonContracts-Linged.esp' and the game seems to load fine.

Is there any reason why the above two files are causing an issue?

I completely missed those two. You need the main files for SW and Megaton Contracts in order to "Ling" them.

Ok Guys, I have no idea which FOIP compatibility patches I should use. All I really plan on installing after DLC,Fook2,FWE, MMM,WMK, and UFP is a few sparse mods, any suggestions what I might be doing wrong is much appreciated !

LOAD ORDER I tried to make it organized for easier reading

[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] Zeta.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm
[X] FOOK2 - Main.esm
[X] FOOK2 - [[censored]] World And Neighbourhood Kit.esm
[X] FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp
[X] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp

X] FOOK2 - Main.esp
[X] FOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.esp
[X] FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp
[X] FOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] MyFOOK2 - No [censored] Victims.esp
[X] MyFOOK2 - Black & White Tranquility Lane.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - UFP Support.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - No Ghoul Raise.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Increased Spawns.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Reduced Wasteland Spawns.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

How would I merge:
Weapon Mod Kits
FOOK2
Marts Mutant Mod
FWE
XFO
Project Beauty
?

Plugins exist for each one individually, but what order/which ones will I need?

Merge FOOK2+FWE+XFO? If you have to ask, you don't.
Even combining FWE+FOOK requires a lot of work, and adding another overhaul into the mix is not recommended. It would be easier to make your own overhaul.

Is it fine to use FOIP WMK + FOOK2 package with WMK 1.1.9 and FOOK2 V1.1?

No, the currently available version of WMK-FOOK2 is not compatible with FOOK2 v1.1. I'm working to update it right now; should be finished fairly soon.

... In fact, it's finished now.

I've just released WMK-FOOK2 v1.0.3, which achieves compatibility between WMK v1.1.9 and FOOK2 v1.1. Grab it from the http://www.fallout3nexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=4968.

I gave it a quick test, but as it's quite an extensive update, with thousands of edits across hundreds of weapon variants, it is possible I missed something; so if anyone encounters any problems, please let me know.

According to the guys at FOOKUNITY, the MMM and FOOK2 compatibility patch needs a little updating. Shall I post about this in the MMM thread, or just leave it here?

Hello, i have a bit of a problem. First of all, having the following mods installed i sometimes run into CTDs when running in the wasteland (not in interiors), but that's not really troublesome.
My main problem is that i'm currently stuck in Ferragult Metro, following the main quest. If i try to leave the area, whether i try to go back or forward, i get a CTD. Also if i try to save i get a CTD as well, whether its a regular save or a quicksave. I tried uninstalling the mods related to FOIP, patches included, and everything worked flawlessly so i could move to the new area and reactivate the mods, but in doing so i lost all my new items related to these mods. I'd like to know if i'm doing something tragically wrong with the load order, since im a bit confused about the different versions... in fact some of the FOIP patches seem to require a bit older versions of the mods i have, even though i downloaded the latest ones.

Two notes:
- I may be wrong, but from what i understand, if i dont use the UPP module that edits vanilla perks it shouldn't conflict with FWE
- In case i should put the whole MMM section before the series of single mods, i tried doing it already, with no results.

Thanks in advance.



[X] Fallout3.esm
[X] Anchorage.esm
[X] ThePitt.esm
[X] BrokenSteel.esm
[X] PointLookout.esm
[X] Zeta.esm
[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm
[X] CALIBR.esm (ver. 1.3)

[X] Project Beauty HD version.esm
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp (ver 5.02)
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp (ver 5.02)
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp (ver. 5.0)
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp (ver 5.02)
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp (ver 5.0)
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp (ver 5.0)
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp (ver 5.0)
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp (ver 5.0)
[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced B-S).esp (ver 5.0)

[X] WeaponModKits.esp (ver 1.1.8)
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Optional Worn Weapons.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] EVE.esp (ver 0.9.6 BETA)
[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp
[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp
[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

[X] DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esp
[X] CONELRAD 640-1240.esp
[X] kikaiEquipment.esp
[X] dD-Less Blood Time, Larger Blood.esp
[X] dD-More Gore-BrokenSteel.esp
[X] GalaxyNewsRadio60[M].esp
[X] japanese_armor_set.esp
[X] Colossus Outcast.esp
[X] colossus BOS.esp
[X] Tailor Maid.esp
[X] Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp
[X] Tailor Maid PITT.esp
[X] Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp
[X] Tailor Maid ZETA.esp
[X] AsharasLightningItems.esp
[X] Existence2.0.esp
[X] MiniHideout.esp
[X] 3EFdrgplate.esp
[X] JNF B.L.A.Z.E..esp
[X] DanWessonPPC357(CALIBR).esp
[X] AQFH_C_103.esp
[X] Citadel Radio.esp
[X] UPP - Pack 1.esp
[X] UPP - Pack 2.esp
[X] UPP - Beverage Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Experience Perks.esp
[X] UPP - Quest Perks.esp
[X] Nano Suit.esp
[X] DeepEyes.esp
[X] 3EFwandererGear.esp
[X] UndergroundHideout.esp
[X] LucyWestCompanion.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp (ver. RC5.0)
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE with EVE.esp (requires EVE 0.9.5)
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty (HD Addition).esp
[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty + FWE.esp (requires FWE 5.0)

[X] Mez's Merged Patch 5-0 - DLC-FWE-WMK-MMM.esp (requires FWE 5.0)