Fallout London maybe it would be something good unique we have history outstanding architecture. leave your comments what do you think

MEH maybe but you're in in wrong forum so this will eventualy be moved

what forum i need to be in ?

The Fallout series discussion but a moderator will probably move this so...

K for the last time. Fallout London is a terrible Idea. This is an American Game. Not an English game. People from sweden want Fallout Sweden, people from australia want Fallout Syndey but let's face it. The U.S. is where it's at.

Sweden Australia sorry but who would wanna play that London got it all perfect setting architecture WOW GTA is made in the UK/Scotland but set in the US why ask yourself that. mass effect 3 alot of it set in london and isit an American Game ? i think so

i dont see how it would not make a good fallout game

Fallout was supposed to be set in USA and only in USA, Europe was destroyed by a civil war according with the Fallout 1 Opening

Fallout is about a world wide thermal nuclear war. There would be nothing wrong with a game once in a while in other countries.

The United States is certainly not the world.

This post should be in Fallout Series disscusion.


Does any one have a quote from Tim Cain that says fo should never leave the states. The only quote I see floatind around he says world.

No one here knows what Cain or other original fo devs had planned for this series.

If done right fo in the U. K. would be sweet.

So you could have a Fallout game where some US peeps built a boat and decided to repopulate other countries. Hunting for resources. Or to start up their own brand new factions. :laugh:

I need a badass like Desmond from Point Lookout

Yay for parochialism!

Anyway, the offical line is, that Fallout games are big on Americana and a white-picket-fence-gone-wrong vibe, and that this wouldn't translate to a non-US setting. Which I can see the logic of, even though I think it'd be ace to see a glimpse of the wider world myself.

If Bethesda did things right they could put the game in London, we are after all allies with our friends across the pond. I have never been to London but I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a lot of American culture to be found in larger UK cities and adding some of their culture to a Fallout game would not be that hard.

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I would like to see what's happened to the rest of the world.
But gutting the series of it's Sci-Fi 50's Feel would be taking out the the series best quality..So..Yeah. That's where I'm at.

It would get alot of hate

this can go bad or good i mean am all for it good idea and what if it was an expansion

Yah and America became a police state basically descending into Anarchy adn then got nuked to hell, what is your pointé

But they survived :spotted owl:

Nay sayers, look up resource wars at the wiki, if it ever would see the light of day, it would be kind of nice if it had some maps in London =)

Would be epic - Tenpenny was british and travelled the Oceans from Fallout 3, so it is very possible to make your way to america from England

And to think, Tenpenny came all the way to the Capital Wastelands to look for a better place - makes u wonder what Europes like

I am wondering why you made two threads about this, one here and one in the Series Discussion?

While it would be neat, I don't see any Fallout games outside of the US for a while, if at all. This has nothing to do with the idea that America is better, or that other countries can't support the concept of a post-apocalyptic wasteland. The problem lies in the core of Fallout's setting and sense of humor.

Fallout as a series (well, the proper Fallout games, ie, 1, 2, 3, and New Vegas) is, if nothing else, a giant satire on the American culture. Much of what is being satirized is not just a general sense of Cold War Paranoia and stodgy values, but specifically an American look at said subjects. It can be really blatant or really subtle, like how the book that teaches stealth is a Chinese training manual. Also, most of the cultural idiosyncrasies that are mocked are uniquely American. Not going into too much detail, but that town in Fallout 3 was a dead ringer for the "Leave it to Beaver" show. Even when you look up at the banner above this article, the blurb in the bottom left corner states "America's First Choice in Post Nuclear Simulation". Everything about the game is making fun of America.

Now, here's the thing, if there is a Fallout that is set somewhere else, there's only two ways to approach the subject: either someone from Wasteland America travels there, or the game is simply, independently set there already.

The problem I have with the first option is that if the game stays true to the previous Fallouts, then I can only assume that what has happened in other countries is going to be viewed by someone who, for better or worse, is influenced by this retro-50's mindset (influenced, not completely controlled by). Even the pipboy is clearly a parody of the American retro feel. This is going to superimpose itself with the given surroundings and appear, at best, awkward, and, at worst, very racist.

The problem I have with the second option is a little more oblique. Sure, any place in the world could probably have a great post-apocalyptic story set in them. Let's use the UK for instance (I think expanding out of London to all or most of the UK would be more interesting. One of the things I didn't really like about 3 being only in DC). Now, if the game is firmly set in the UK, the main character being brought up in, say, a Vault of some sort in London, then everything has to change. The pipboy would be different because the art trends, mentalities, and cultural queues would be uniquely British. The sense of satire would have to shift to accommodate a different view on society. Did you ever see the movie 'When the Wind Blows', about a couple in Sussix who don't realize that their country was devastated in a nuclear attack? Yes, that story could have been anywhere, but much of what those two people do are very British in their mindset. But, for arguments sake, say this game is made. Say that the care and attention to satirizing outdated American values shown in Fallout games was done perfectly for the same type of game set in the UK. Would it still be a Fallout game? Besides by name? The game would be so different on so many levels, that I don't think it would.

Fallout is more than just post-apocalyptia. That's why the first Fallout game isn't just called "Mad Max, the Video Game". It seems that, since everything is so heavily grounded in American culture, and dedicated to mocking American culture, that setting the games anywhere else either wouldn't be treated properly, or wouldn't happen at all.

I think it would be good because in the Fallout US area we've reached the point where civilization is forming again so it's post-post-apocalyptic.

With one set in another country we can begin again which would be interesting.

However, it may not do so well in America because Americans may not want to play one set in the UK.

And secondly, British post-apocalyptic stories are of a different nature to US ones. Fallout so far reflects US versions while British ones usually have a group of people living semi-comfortably trying to get on with their everyday lives.

No we're not. Ok in real life yes of course, but in the fallout world they aren't allies. You need to brush up on your fallout lore. Those alliances broke apart when resources got scarce. Last we heard after Europe united under a single banner and wages a war in the middle east to secure the oil there, only to find out that the war had used up all the oil there, they became a bickering collection of nation states scheming to control any resources left on their continent.

Part of what makes the fallout world fallout has to do with the americana aspect taken from the 1950's era where america was looking toward the marvels of the future. This was something not present anywhere else in the world at the time considering europe would be desperately trying to rebuild for the next few decades. It wouldn't transition well and would give up so much of what makes fallout, fallout.