I think Fallout 3 is better for replayability. New Vegas was fun the first playthrough, but after that it got very boring very quickly.

So your saying a game that has one and one way to play some how has more replay ability than one that has thousands of different combination that change the ending? *scratches head*

I think Fallout 3 is better for replayability. New Vegas was fun the first playthrough, but after that it got very boring very quickly.

I dont understand. FO3 has only one ending...FNV has 4!!

By less freedom they mean they can't go kill things for days and aquire loot in massive quantities. At least that's what I gathered.

Well, thats the problem. I play for different reasons you do. You wanted a story line, and they gave you four different endings that are achieved nearly the same way. I wanted a more exploration based game with strong side quests that are fun to play (not the numerous errand quests that are in New Vegas), which wasn't really delivered. Fallout 3 had delivered on this though.

I lol'd

We should throw a Welcome to Fallout housewarming party

:celebration:

pretty much all of FO3 quest are like that too. It's that or go kill X.

Only if I can be armed... I get the feeling that doing that would incite a riot at some point.

Someone would say they want to explore and then another would argue that the game is too linear. Soon we'd have a full scale insurrection to deal with.

Those quests were rare in New Vegas, which was very disappointing.

They made a few tweaks to the feel of the game that makes New Vegas feel like a superior game.
hardcoe mode, iron sights, etc. However, these are all present in my copy of Fallout 3, as these 'new' features are mostly directly copied from community mods for Fallout 3.

Being in close proximity to the NCR, that has been around for hundreds of years now, makes New Vegas feel less like a post-apocalyptic RPG and more like... a present day RPG set in a slum or something.

People aren't struggling to survive in a changed landscape. They're working their dayjobs in farmsteads or 'prospecting'. Waiting to get their paychecks so they can go to a pub for a drink or a prosttute.

Things aren't as tamed and structured in the Capitol Wasteland as they are in the Mohave. When you're paying for a post-apocalyptic RPG, I think you're looking for a gameplay experience more like Fallout 3 than New Vegas.


New Vegas isn't bad, at all. Granted, you may need a couple.. dozen drinks before you can see past all the little bugs and lazy scripting. But I think Fallout 3 better delivers the post-apocalyptic experience.

Hardly. The only true errand quest was the Nuka Cola quest. The rest were "Go here to enslave these certain individuals for profit", "Go rescue these people from a bloodthirsty group of Super Mutants", "Go and try to locate a long lost brother after learning x's parents were killed in different locations only to come across a group of wannabe vampires." Those quests were rare in New Vegas, which was very disappointing.

Companion wheel - what's the point in this when the AI for companions is near to none-existant. Kamikaze behaviour & glitches and bugs abound with 'companions'.

Companion perks - making a easy game, even easier.

Gambling - money is still too easy to come by, so this is rendered obsolete

Binoculars - no zoom, disappointing

Snow - what? , the snowy peaks you can see in the distance, hardly amounts to a new environmental effect does it?

More Freindly Super-Mutants - this is a boon, except when you pacify Tabatha the whole Black Moutain populace of SM's become mute / can't interact with!

More than twice the guns - pity they shipped the game with that awful bug that effects all shotguns though huh?

New drugs - too many chems removes all sense of danger from the wasteland.

Crafting - the schematics from FO3 are gone! And the availablity of guns/equipment/chems makes the Survival skill utterly pointless.

Ability to Play-Through as a pacifist - yeah, good luck with that! This is still a game about shooting things.

Ability to kill every person in-game except for one - how is that a commendable feature?

Ammo Type Switching - if you've got 1 round of normal ammo, but tonnes of AP ammo, the weapon will default to the normal when first equipped - so annoying!

Electricity - huh???

hokers/Strippers - poorly animated, and not in the least bit 'enticing'. Really, their inclusion makes me squirm.

Stregnth/skill requirments for weapons - you can still equip them though, which is a cop-out for the console masses. No heavy weapon skill - wtf!

Vegetation - is embarrisingly implemented, stalks sticking out of low-res textures.

The quests you just listed are either go and kill x or are the very "fedex" style quests you mentioned. XD

I can put up a pinata or set up a scavenger hunt for those who want to explore and collect lewt while the rest of us play a fallout pnp game

There is a lot of improvements and additions that FONV has that FO3 did not.

Companion wheel
Companion perks
Weapon mods
hardcoe mode
More quests
New factions
Gambling
Traits
Binoculars
Night/Thermal vision
Nightkins
Snow
More Freindly Super-Mutants
More than twice the guns
More joinable factions
Reputation
New drugs
Repair kits
Doctors bags
Unique speach options for low intellegence characters.
Crafting
Poison/Medicine making
Ammo crafting
Disguises
180 quests
Ability to Play-Through as a pacifist
Ability to kill every person in-game except for one.
Iron Sights
Non-Lethal ammo types
Ammo Type Switching
Faction ranking
Advanced power armor
Deeper Main Quest
More choices/endings
Electricity
hokers/Strippers
Stregnth/skill requirments for weapons
More Currencies
Courier Missions
Higher level cap
Vegetation
Perks every 2 levels
Perk that allows you to repair armour with another piece of armour SIMLIAR to your armour (Power Armour repaired with Metal Raider Armour) (Duster repaired with Long Coat).... not sure if there is a "Long Coat" in game, but that is an example. Metal to metal... leather to leather... cloth to cloth

I think FONV wins...

I don't see how "Go save these people inside a destroyed police station" means "Go kill x." There were hardly any quests were you had to go kill a random person or go find random things. Please, other than the Nuka Cola quest, name me quests where you had to do this.

I don't see how "Go save these people inside a destroyed police station" means "Go kill x." There were hardly any quests were you had to go kill a random person or go find random things. Please, other than the Nuka Cola quest, name me quests where you had to do this.

Fallout New Vegas, is Fallout 3, the mega mod...with loads of Invisible walls.

Obsidian just didn't read the brief correctly when Bethseda handed it over and said "we want an open-world rpg". I could handle the restrictions a lot better if it felt like I was being hemmed in for a purpose. Scorpion Gulch for example does it very well. But there are so many other areas of the gameworld in New Vegas where the inclusion of invisible walls is just attributable to Obsidian being Obsidian , i.e. lazy.