Hello fellow Fallout fans, I as Apple PC user will most likely not be able to play Fallout 3 or New Vegas on my Mac PC this year. This is the most annoying thing about having a mac... no good games, so after its release I sought out to get fallout 3 and eventually found out its only Windows, I was incredibly pissed off. So i looked for a way to port it to mac,i had no success, I boot camped it... and it wouldn't work, well it did once and that was fun, leaving the vault as a baby, thermonuclear bomb launcher mod, spawning millions of ghouls in one spot and annihilating them with one click of a button (this was priceless and caused my Mac to crash). Now i hope that this time i wont have to spend money for a p.c., or boot camp this mac with no success all i want is to, one day walk into a gamestop, go to the computer game section, and find Fallout: New Vegas with the Universal/Mac compatible symbol on the back. Sorry for the long message, basically I want Fallout: New Vegas on the mac, and i'm pretty sure some of you guys want this to as well. Ty for reading and please answer the poll

New Vegas is confirmed to be a Games for Windows title.

Finally, another mac user! I wanted to get Fallout 3 for my computer as well so I could try out the mods, but sadly they did not make it for macs. I was a sad panda. Good thing I have a 360.

Its weird cause FO1 and FO2 were made for macintosh.

Well Bethesda isn't BIS . Imagine how much success this game would get if it was sold for both mac & p.c.!!!! Also it would encourage other companies to do the same!!! Imagine, mass effect 2, dragon age origins, etc. being brought into re-production for macs!!

Its unfortunate, lol. BIS knew what was up!

I know many Mac users that wish they could game on their systems (we've got WoW and WAR and SPORE but that is about it, and I'd like something more than an mmo).

I'd rather they encourage people not to buy macs in the first place lol.

I'd rather you svck on my left testicle. JK. But seriously now, the PC gaming community has no respect for Mac users. They're really just shooting themselves in the foot by shutting out a large part of the market. It's kind of how yoghurt and toothpaste commercials never show men eating yoghurt or brushing their teeth. When I was a little kid, I thought most toothpastes were women only products because they were never advertised any other way.

Games are the only reason why I keep crappy Windows around.. Unfortunately the companies who sell APIs for *nix systems are not quick to code the APIs, and with some games they don't do a very good job. At one point I considered getting Cedega, but they're just too far behind.. their latest version doesn't support FO3... The day gaming companies start putting out games that run on *nix systems, it is the day Windows dies. I'm pretty sure Micorsoft will keep on bribing developers into not doing that.

Is there even much else they need to do to the game development wise to release it on mac? it can't be that hard surely. Though I would argue as to whether they are shooting themselves in the foot - Microsoft probably pays the game companies a lot to release it as a windows only title, I assume. I can't see any other reason not to release it on mac tbh.

No, Macs are trash.

Back in the "good old days" most games were made on MAc and then converted to PC since it was faster/smoother/better/easier to make games on a Mac. However, less gamers played on Mac (was a small market to begin with) and the newer windows didn't take all the resources so you could make games on Windows from start. Since the Macs were a small % of the buyers to begin with, the companies saved them selves some money by not converting the games (who doesn't have a PC?), and gaming for Mac became more and more rare. I think that few companies these days want to pay their programmers to make a version of a game for a system used by only a few %, and of them even fewer doesn't have a PC so it's, simply not worth the time + money. :shakehead:

No one but Mac users have respect for Mac users.



Same here. It's quite honestly thinking only reason anyone uses windows. Microsoft have used, presently uses and will use in future rather coercive business practices, like giving only partially working versions of their API's to their competitors. Goal of MS is still monopoly and they are quite close it, they only allow competition on level that isn't threat to them, that acceptable level is mostly symbolic. Problem is that open source competition doesn't have enough market potential right now. Quite many game IP owners would be willing to license their games to third parties to be ported into linux native versions, but there isn't enough markets for those third parties to make it viable and competitive in pricing. I hope that DX loses it's competition advantage to OpenGL in future, but that is quite unlikely to happen in near future.

Ditto.

Now, would all the effort be worth it for such a small market?

A BootCamp Windows install works beautifully with FO3 and Oblivion, so I'd imagine FNV will work just as well.

I'm not against another system getting the game. I mean...what the hell? Won't hurt anything. Just because I don't own a mac doesn't mean I don't respect it as a...rather increasingly popular computer platform.
I say let them have it. What's the worst that could happen?

Dual-boot FTW! There's no reason one can't have the best of both worlds, thus I voted 'I don't honestly care' and yes, I own a mac.

... and why is that?

Macs are ridiculously overpriced. Macs regularly ignore mainstream industry trends. Mac OS X is merely a locked down version of open-source Linux. There's not even right-click. The Dock, and general screen layout svck. “It just… doesn’t work.” (Macs crash, freeze, and have evil viruses too.) Software and hardware options for Mac are lame, or slim at best. Gaming, and graphics in general, svck on Macs. Macs are not flexible or customizable. And plenty more reasons...

All the time and budget they'll waste on it making our versions of the game svcky and then when the Mac version is released it will hardly sell and all the time and budget will have been wasted.

I've had a lot of those problems on a PC~ It's really no different. There's no such thing as a perfect computer system- eventually they all have their issues.

I doubt it, read the post. The Mac Pro (along with it's inferior components) costs as much as an Alien Ware (which will destroy a Mac any day). PC doesn't ignore the mainstream trends, you always see Microsoft trying to get all the good stuff out for people, correct? MAC OS X is copying Linux and in the end, it uses Unix BSD, how could PC have problem with this? Hilarious, Windows is entirely different from Linux. Windows has right click and offers many options, once again you didn't read the post. Here I can agree, they both have viruses but as long as you are prepared, PCs get less. Software and hardware options for PC are pretty good. PCs tend to be pretty customizable and flexible.

You didn't read the post.

Macs are, aptly, expensive. There is, in fact, R-Click in OS X. On the whole, OS X is by no means broken as you've described it, but was probably just unfamiliar to you when you used it. People are generally creatures of habit and might think anything they are familiar with from using Windows can be extrapolated and will be applicable on another OS which simply isn't the case, but that by no means makes an OS inoperable. As for gaming on a Mac, that all depends upon the hardware. Fallout 3 and Oblivion both perform exceedingly well with everything maxed out (+ HiRes texture replacers) on a MacBook Pro, so the statement, "Gaming, and graphics in general, svck on Macs" holds no water unless you're referring to a dinosaur of a Mac... :shrug: As for customization, I've a Windows install which is every bit as customizable as any other and, from all I've seen, OS X is every bit as malleable as Windows, but is just ...different.

yes I did read the post, you weenis. I just chose the specific part I was going to comment on. Listen, I'm no tech expert. I don't look at specs of my machines. But being so foamy at the mouth about is not very becoming, nor ladylike.