I didn't make this post to start a flame war... both games are good in their own way, but they should not be copared. They should be thought of as two different games.

Actually a lot of those mountains are climbable. It's true the beasts are there to bar your way but that's just part of the fun.

Try Goodsprings - Tribal Village for a different way to play the game. You do have Cadzadores at a low level but it's certainly possible on hardcoe very hard, so for anyone actually. Then you can get to the Khans at a very early stage in the game.

In Fallout 3 I can have fun just running around where ever I want when ever I want, in Fallout New Vegas it feels like theirs really isn't anything to do other then the missions so theirs really a lack of exploration and just find myself rushing through the game and to tell you the truth I really don't know why I rush through it. I already beat NV 6 times and each time I put in about 40 hours but in Fallout 3 I put in about 100 hours just for one play through and I still haven't seen it all every-time I play I find out something new and the stakes felt way higher in Fallout 3 then they did in Fallout NV. If only they had more dialogs for your companions and missions in NV because to me thats where it was at thats is what made me want to stay in the game I really hope they make some DLC for some more missions with them and a LOT more dialogs with them.And Fallout New Vegas isn't bad at all it just feels like I seen it all already i'm about to go through another play though but this time i'm going to take as much time as i can to beat it.

Fallout 3, IMO, was far worse than Fallout NV, Fallout 3 combat was a joke because level scaling made all enemies pushovers, the DR-only system was ridiculous for I could beat an Enclave soldier in ADVANCED POWER ARMOR to death with a tire iron, Fallout 3's story was stupid in that is was fixed, a railroad, the game wouldn't let you make a change until the end, which was "Save everything or kill everyone" ... I wanted to kill James, "OH NO HE'S ESSENTIAL", I wanted to join the Talon Company, "OH NO THEY ARE EVIL" "(response)But... so am I..." "OH NO THEY EVIL-ER"... I wanted to kill the BoS and Enclave and have Purity be my cash cow, "OH NO... uh... YOU CANT DO THAT BECAUSE-.... because.... YOU CANT"

Detrimentally next time avoid the main quest and explore you'll have tons of fun. And when you do go back to the main quest make sure you try siding with a new faction.

But there is no any relantionship of the past 2 games,

And a Spin Off, can be canon too

Then thats what i'm going to do your probably right. Mako Vlazkov what game did Talon Company come from? Really because I really don't know. And you know what I wanted to kill that stupid robot in Bitter Springs But No!!! same thing. And your right I never liked the fact the Enclave and Brotherhood and Talon Company were to easy to kill but NV gets the same way for me at level 15 by then i'm already playing it at God Mode and I don't mind that at all, the whole point to the to the leveling up system is to get stronger isn't it. And yes I have played it on the hardest mode they have with the whole hard core thing on to so ya. :disguise:

- Is anyone else having the same feeling about this game as i do?
No

- Is there anything i can do in the game, maybe different choices, that will make my experience playing the game any better?
Yes by doing side quests.

- Should i wait for all of the addons to come out for the game? Like a kind of Broken Steel for FO:NV (if there will ever be one).
If you using pc don't hold your breath. You turn blue. If using X Crappy Box get it now. With DLC no matter how good or bad they are, they add depth to the game.

- Are there any specific side quests that are special in some way, grants you some good loot, or is just very good and funny in general?
The only one I can think of (If some one else beat me to it so bit it) if you have a certain companion in some point in the way you have to help her and aid her kin, you pick a certain way/path, oh I must warn you there is a lot of running to do and bribing, you get a nice little toy and its nasty when you when you activated it for the first time. You can use it straight away and the target dosen't know what hit them. But it has one BIG handicap, its slow to recharge. But you don't like side quests so why did I type that down.

- Are there any good places to explore, that you might wouldn't have found on your own?
Quarry Junction.

- - Who are the best to side with for the battle of Hoover Dam? Your self, Mr. House, NCR or The Legion
I don't know yet I only sided two so far. I went for the Yes Man what he said that I could not go near the President because my character wasn't in good terms with the NCR. It was a bloody corker I burst out laughing.

My vote goes too fallout 3 in terms of psychological ways i find fallout 3 much better there a many moments i feel guild, hate , happyness and other emotions that i didnt had playing new vegas .

Talon Company is from Fallout 3. You mean Victor? There is at least an explanation why, even if you destroy his current "body", he comes back, his AI is transfered into another Securitron, all well explained.

No because in the first hour of the game there are no other robots around its just Victor and the very first thing I did was try to kill him and it always says Victor is unconscious, he should had just died and not come back in till I got to the Strip where there are more Securitrons around, or at least see another Securitron role himself in from somewhere else and take his place, and if that happed there would have been a pile died Securitrons, but instead of that what I got was plot convince, Victor is unconscious so come on.lol its kind of funny when you think about it and I know another one takes his place but thats when you reach NV . :dance: And thanks I always thought that Talon Company was from one of the older games.

I killed Victor a lot, every time i saw him.

What game do you like the most?

Both games

Yes there is.....I am. There are plenty of others who simply feel that Fallout 3 "did it better" for them. Don't assume things please. :wink_smile:

Well, like you, Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game and I absolutely loved it. Unfortunately, I was only borrowing the game from a friend so I had to quickly beat the game, not leaving any time for any side missions, although I was able to play some. However, I got Fallout: New Vegas for Christmas and although at first I didnt like it as much compared to Fallout 3. It eventually got much, much better. The only thing I was disappointed in was the lack of great songs and a radio announcer like 3 dog. Also, Ive noticed that there are much less random events that happen and far less mutated objects than there were in Fallout 3. You just have to recognize that the game takes place in a different area and almost make the game fun for yourself until you stumble upon some funny locations and quests. I also would recommend the perk that makes more random events occur when your exploring the wasteland.

Its my point of view. That is why I typed no. I did not type it for others. They have their point of views. No skin off my nose.
They are both different games. New Vegas has a different feel to Fallout 3. With Fallout 3 the music is great that is including DJ who is playing them. Random events. Why is that fridge is in the middle of no where. Nothing like that in NV.

With NV, the companions are much better and you can do their quest. You can pick sides in the main quests unlike in Fallout 3 which you can pick sides in the side quest. That Super Mutant DJ make me laugh. Guns there is more of them. Pity the textures is not outstanding. The type of ammo. Its a pity that NPC's don't use them. It not out of balance for example, Deathcrawls are feared in this game unlike Fallout3. Damn invisible walls.

I am not disappointed in this game and I am not disappointed to the other . Thank goodness they are played differently.

I should typed 'no I don't'

Sequel: 1) A book, film, or programme that continues the story of an earlier one. 2) Something that takes place after or as a result of an earlier event. -Origin Latin sequella.

FO3 does not continue the story of FO2. Nothing in the game has anything to do with the result of anything in FO2 when it comes to the main story. Only thing that makes it a "sequal" is that it takes place after the events of FO2. New Vegas is more of a sequel to FO2 then FO3.

Like it or not Bethesda does not control what the definition of Sequel is.

Edit: I hope you're not saying New Vegas is not Canon because it is. My original post was about someone saying New Vegas is a sequel to FO3 which its not.

Yes that would have made it a bit more clearer as to your point. When you answered the question of "does anyone feel the same way about the game as I do?" with a "no" it seemed like you were speaking for everyone like it was inconcievable that there would be anybody who would have a different view. Things like that just kind of set me off since when I recongnize others views, I would like the same courtesy to be done for me. Thanks for explaining that though. :foodndrink:

No hard feelings and I hope my post didn't sound too blunt.

I still prefer FO3 over NV because there's more stuff to poke around in.
I see a shack off in the distance that's not ion the map in NV, and I run up to it,
and find it's yet just ANOTHER building I can't go into....

FONV is big and empty, I realize it's a desert, but to me, there's not a heck of a lot to do,
I've done every single side quest I can find, but I'm still bored, because for me, the fun is
the Exploration.....and there's really not a whole heck of a lot of that going on in FONV.

That's why I favor FO3, I explore, Heck in my current game I've done the Pitt, Zeta, OP:Anchorage and Lookout Point,
and I STILL haven't talked to Moriarty about Dad yet...., I've also finished
the entire Wasteland Survival Guide, the GrayDitch Quests, I've got my Megaton House,
I've Deactivated the Bomb....the list goes on.....

I'm doing that with FONV too, I'm close to level 30 and haven't even talked to Mr. House yet, instead I've done every side quest I can find,
but the Exploration just isn't there.....

And c'mon, most of the cars don't blow up, at least none of the ones I've shot in FONV.

I use that as a tactic in FO3, especially using Mart Mutant Mod, and I see a cluster of Mobs around
a car, I';; snipe the car from as far away as possible and let the resulting explosion do most of my work for me.

@ Lt. Andronicus Don't worry about it. I been and seen worse. This Forum is tame compare to BioWare after Mass Effect 2 came out. I felt like cutting my wrists.

Strangely I remember not 4 months back..
A lot were complaining that FO3 was not as enjoyable due to the fact of all the burned out buildings, and bolted doors with no access.
Just saying opinions change a fair bit in a very short time, either that or they don't blooming change quickly enough.

However NV does seem to lack nooks and crannies at first glance.
I'm still finding new stuff and overlooked objects, not to mention other paths of completing quests.
Unfortunatly not the main one however, that just does not do it for me any more than FO3 at the later stages post NV strip.

F3 was my first Fallout game and I think it's a fantastic game. I have put many, many hours into it.

But IMHO FNV is far better.

Better writing, more quests (even if some are incredibly tiny), more interlocking quests, factions, more choice, more weapons, crafting, toned down the 'master of everything' possibilities.

As a fictional world, F3 no makes no sense. In 200 years, it doesn't seem to have occurred to anyone to even attempt agriculture. There's no distinct areas of haves and have-nots, except for Tenpenny Tower placed randomly in the wasteland.People thinki it's a good idea to build a town around a live nuke (!). The locations are just random places arbitrarily plonked wherever without any attempt to show how this fictional place is supposed to function.

People moan about NV sending you in a certain direction early on, but I think Obsidian put far more thought into world design.
N V - the game nudges you along a path that reveals the game world, introduces the Legion and NCR and isn't too challenging for early on. You can bypass this if you look, something you'll most likely do on subsequent playthroughs when you're already familiar with the world. If you choose, you can also take on the toughest creatures right at the beginning. You know you're reasonably safe on roads, you can go and find some action off the roads if you choose.

F3 - Everything is magically geared to your level, so it's rare you'll encounter anything difficult to handle or have to think about where you're going. Walk anywhere, and you'll encounter endless random adversaries that have no reason or purpose for being there. But don't worry, because the game will make sure they're specifically geared just for you. In time, your walking God character will patrol a wasteland crammed full of constantly spawning hordes the most powerful enemies only you could possibly survive in.

IMO the Mojave is sometimes too empty - I think they should have more Legion vs NCR vs Vipers vs Wildlife action like you can get on that stretch of highway between Nipton and Novac, but at least it's not deathclaws, sentry bots and giant radscorpions just appearing all over the place and shredding all the caravans just because you're level 20.

Karma is now totally messed up, but it wasn't that great in F3 either and faction rep is a great feature.

It also has too many 'it's a shack' locations compared to F3, but the fact Obsidian produced NV in a smaller amount of time (and yet managed to create more depth in other areas) may be a factor here.

F3's random encounters were also kinda fun, but Bethesda's insistence on across the board level scaling also kinda ruined them. Like when a couple of hunters with a dead mole rat spawn in a patch of wasteland crawling with sentry bots and albino radscorpions - how the hell did they get there? Are they insane? Everyone knows when the lone wanderer gets past level 15, the entire Capital Wasteland outside places like Rivet City and Megaton is a totally lethal no-go area to lesser mortals. I'm sorry, but I find Bethesda's approach pretty lazy - just give 'em scaled enemies everywhere and they'll be happy. It doesn't matter how incoherent and nonsensical the game world is, we're just here to shoot things.

I think you've created a new internet meme (if it doesn't exist already)....
I can see it now, a picture of Admiral Ackbar with "It's a shack!" in text photoshopped onto the picture.

His point does sound like his a fan doesn't it. As a consumer I would've preffered to have seen the full potential of NV realised even if it meant delayed launch date. It's like it could have been but it's better because less time was spent on production.

Seeing one of the biggest complain about NV is that is still use TESIV-Havoc-Gamebroy, further delay wouldn't do any go.

However, an full-size expansion pack/Director's edition for overhaul in 12 months time would be nice.