Fallout: New Vegas not as fun as Fallout 3? Why?

Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:56 pm

I got the help i wanted, thanks :)

There might be spoilers in this post.

So, i got Fallout: New Vegas on release date. It was really funny in the start, mostly because of the excitement for a brand new Fallout game. Even though it was hardly playable because of bugs and glitches.

But a couple of weeks after i got the game, it became awfully dull to me for some reason. I didn't play any Fallout game in a month or so (which is very rare for me). I then started playing FO:NV a little again, mostly because that most of the glitches had been patched.

I finished the game, mostly doing main quests, because i thought that many of the side quests were boring and not worth completing. Don't get me wrong, there were some funny side quests like That Lucky Old Sun, and Come Fly With Me.

I finished the game siding with Yes Man, and with no factions helping me at Hoover Dam. Simply because i couldn't bother doing all of the side quests for the factions to be idiolized by them.

When i completed the game, even now, I'm not thinking of starting over again, as i did many times with Fallout 3. I even got the Fallout 3: Game Of The Year a couple of days ago, simply because of my hunger for playing Fallout 3.

Fallout: New Vegas is a very good game, indeed. But i doesn't give me quite the same feeling as Fallout 3. And that's why I'm writing all of this. Because i want to know following:

- Is anyone else having the same feeling about this game as i do?
- Is there anything i can do in the game, maybe different choices, that will make my experience playing the game any better?
- Should i wait for all of the addons to come out for the game? Like a kind of Broken Steel for FO:NV (if there will ever be one).
- Are there any specific side quests that are special in some way, grants you some good loot, or is just very good and funny in general?
- Are there any good places to explore, that you might wouldn't have found on your own?
- Who are the best to side with for the battle of Hoover Dam? Your self, Mr. House, NCR or The Legion?

Thank you if you are willing to take your time answering my questions.
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:56 pm

Well, I'm having fun. The combat is better, the weapons are more varied, the map is just as cool as the CW, and there's almost too-much to do, so I can't see the point of your post.

If you don't feel like playing, don't play. If you dislike the game, don't play. Jeez.
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:09 pm

That's not it, i'd like to play the game. I just need to know if I'm the only one having it like this. And what i could possibly do to make my experience better. I haven't found any awesome weapons, or special armor of any kind either. I just doesn't seem to could find any places with such kind of stuff. What am i doing wrong?
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:51 pm

If you don't feel like playing, don't play. If you dislike the game, don't play.

I can understand wanting to like a game but for whatever reasons, not finding yourself able to.
But yeah...that pretty much sums it up. You can't force yourself to love something. Either you do or you don't. Perhaps if you don't play for six months or more and pick it up again, you'll suddenly like it more because you yourself have changed/see things differently. That's happened to me occasionally. But that's all the advice on that topic I could give.
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:41 pm

Welcome and all that jazz.

I enjoy Fallout: New Vegas more than I did Fallout 3. I just think it's more fulfilling game. Combat, Dialogue, The story and better features.

I will admit that is far from perfect. It wasn't the most polished could/should have been. Exploration and random event have been a bit of let down.

On a side note thanks for the politeness. :goodjob:
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:37 pm

haven't found any awesome weapons, or special armor of any kind either. I just doesn't seem to could find any places with such kind of stuff. What am i doing wrong?

Well for one thing, you're skipping all the quests and possibly skipping exploring areas with/related to those quests?
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Post » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:41 am

You cant force yourself to love something that you dont,
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:09 pm

Fallout 3 was your only Fallout, hunh?

Fallout 3 =/= Fallout.

It was a lazy reboot of the series. Fallout: NV is much more like the originals. It IS different than FO3 and most people who loved the originals are psyched about that, but I can see how it might be off-putting if Fallout 3 was your touchstone for the series.

You're not doing anything wrong by not finding any unique or cool weapons, Dopedk. Unlike Fallout 3 in which tons of cool stuff was handed to you during the main quest you have to go out and look pretty hard to find the cool stuff in New Vegas and you have to look fairly hard for things like Power Armor training.

Pick up the Explorer perk and go out and do the side-quests or play a different ending. The variability of New Vegas is one of its greatest strengths.
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Post » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:21 am

Thanks for the replies. Actually when playing through the game, i thought it was really good, and it made me want to play it just like Fallout 3 did. But when the game ended it all went like 'meh'.
But while waiting for replies, I've watched some gameplays and stuff, and the game might not be so bad at all. I just got to stop comparing it to Fallout 3 while playing it.
I will give it a try again, when I'm done with The Pitt and Broken Steel for Fallout 3. Again, thanks for your replies! :D
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Post » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:56 am

A bare bones run will not show much of the game tbh.
Try taking your time in one area exploring and come back to it at a later date, you may see some more things you like.

There are bits that I wish had been different but the sweeping quests arcs are not one.
Well apart from the fact that imo they should have been even more sweeping and full of choices at every stage.

One simple way to see through fresh eyes is to change out your character and combat style.
I started as a sneak first game liked it but did not love it.
Then I went for a jack'o trades with no great skill at anything, then a stupid low intelligence and melee build, then a non com, now atm a pure big gun character.
Each required different thinking and tactics, and needed thought at all times.

However, if you don't like NV and are worried that you'll never will.
It may be best if you take a break and see if it appeals when you're bored and need something to fill up an hour.
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:31 pm

New Vegas not as fun as Fallout 3? Why?

Because the story is a serious story.
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Post » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:07 am

But when the game ended it all went like 'meh'.

I love this game but even I don't particularly like the actual end game. I've only done that twice. The joy for me is everything else, including most of the faction questing/companion quests/exploring. I couldn't give a fart about how it all ties into the main quest and the 2nd battle and all of that, really. I'm strange maybe.

I just got to stop comparing it to Fallout 3 while playing it.

lol, I had the same problem when I bought Dungeon Keeper2. I loved DK1 sooooooo much and all the differences in DK2 felt silly/icky. But I kept playing and found a lot to like in DK2 eventually. Still love DK1 better tho. :)
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:41 pm

Fallout 3 was your only Fallout, hunh?

Fallout 3 =/= Fallout.

It was a lazy reboot of the series. Fallout: NV is much more like the originals. It IS different than FO3 and most people who loved the originals are psyched about that, but I can see how it might be off-putting if Fallout 3 was your touchstone for the series.

You're right. Starting a game out from birth, then shooting my way out of that vault for the first time was one of the best game experiences i've ever had. I guess that after all of the hours i've played Fallout 3, that made it the kind of a game that no other games was good enough to beat.

You're not doing anything wrong by not finding any unique or cool weapons, Dopedk. Unlike Fallout 3 in which tons of cool stuff was handed to you during the main quest you have to go out and look pretty hard to find the cool stuff in New Vegas and you have to look fairly hard for things like Power Armor training.

Pick up the Explorer perk and go out and do the side-quests or play a different ending. The variability of New Vegas is one of its greatest strengths.

Yeah, that might be it. I was expecting to be given stuff all of the time like in Fallout 3, gaining ***loads of XP and other.

But the biggest reason is probably that i kept comparing new vegas to fallout 3, instead of thinking of it as a game of it's own.
i just had a 4 day FO3 marathon, so i will probably have a fallout 3 pause for some time. I will start over in New Vegas then, and go do some more side quests, explore etc. :)
thanks!! :D
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:13 pm

As others have said, side quests are a great way to expand your New Vegas experience, I especially like the companions side quests. They are really well done IMO.
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:41 pm

- Is anyone else having the same feeling about this game as i do?


I feel exactly the same way that you do. I mean, at the beginning I loved it - the sheer excitement of playing through the early stages at Goodsprings, onto Primm etc The excitement of a new Fallout game, in the same style as F3. I even took a day off work! :o

But as time wore on, I found that a lot of the side quests consisted of little more than doing errands for particular factions. Don't get me wrong, I love the whole factions idea, and not being able to side with the Enclave shows the limitations of F3 at the other end of the scale. Its one of many cool features in FNV that I would loved to have seen in F3. However, running around just doing errands for NCR, or the Brotherhood etc just wore me down after a while. But just progressing through the main quest and missing them out will cause you to miss out on a lot of content. The companion side quests are particularly well done, though. Not only are they interesting, but you do form some kind of obligation to see them through, simply because you are helping a companion.

However, I've just returned to F3 and am playing through in my own self-imposed hardcoe mode. I'm not even half way through FNV, either. I'm really enjoying it again. Part of the charm is the whole urban DC setting with many interesting interior areas to explore. Its only a personal preference, I know, but compared to the endless yellow/brown of the Mojave desert, there is so much more to look at. Also, its made me look at the DC metro tunnels in a whole new light - I used to hate them, but not any more.

FNV is still a great game, it improves on F3 in so many ways. With my objective hat on (its green), I can see that FNV is the better game. I will definitely complete it one day, and maybe I will love it even more than F3 when I do. But for now, F3 is not only my favourite of the two, but its the best game that I've ever played.

Your original post was nicely written, by the way. I hope you find the answers you are looking for. :)

I voted for F3, by the way. :)
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:04 pm

lol, I had the same problem when I bought Dungeon Keeper2. I loved DK1 sooooooo much and all the differences in DK2 felt silly/icky. But I kept playing and found a lot to like in DK2 eventually. Still love DK1 better tho. :)
Surprise... Another gamer that liked DK1 better. :foodndrink:
I like them both a lot, but DK1 is better IMO ~sad about ex Bullfrog devs getting re-purposed to a Harry Potter game, and no DK3 but the teaser. :(
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Starting a game out from birth, then shooting my way out of that vault for the first time was one of the best game experiences i've ever had. I guess that after all of the hours i've played Fallout 3, that made it the kind of a game that no other games was good enough to beat.
Ah... then you know (indirectly) how some of us feel about the series prior to FO3 (and beyond). If I understand you, its the lack of some gaming elements that you expected to find intact that makes the game feel like a let down from the previous one.

All Fallout games that I have played, I consider fun and good games on their own merit; but as a set (for that's how they have been presented),
its been like a case of "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-zWDaoCtI". *One of these games ain't kinda the same ~but its a series.

Fallout 3 was too kooky for me and the FO series isn't like that in my experience. It has those elements ~to be sure, but IMO not in the way they were presented and assumed in FO3. It just seemed like much of the new game's attitude was based on a cursory glance at the old, and that much of the old game's attitude was lost in translation.

Fallout NV builds off of Fallout 3, but for me... (so far anyway), FO:NV is a lot closer to the older games (IE. most of the existing series and spin-offs to date). NV seems to click well with my expectations of a FO3 hybrid; and it shares some (non-gameplay-related) traits with the series that I appreciate and that (IMO), FO3 just didn't seem to have, didn't quite "get", or perhaps had then discarded. :shrug: Whether or not that's fun to others is subjective and the poll wont show the reasons behind the votes.
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Post » Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:00 am

I don't know where to begin on the better differences of NV and F3.
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:09 pm

Part of the charm is the whole urban DC setting with many interesting interior areas to explore. Its only a personal preference, I know, but compared to the endless yellow/brown of the Mojave desert, there is so much more to look at. Also, its made me look at the DC metro tunnels in a whole new light - I used to hate them, but not any more.

FNV is still a great game, it improves on F3 in so many ways. With my objective hat on (its green), I can see that FNV is the better game). I will definitely complete it one day, and maybe I will love it even more than F3 when I do. But for now, F3 is not only my favourite of the two, but its the best game that I've ever played.

I agree with everything. The Mojave Desert is great - with good stuff to explore - but when you start thinking about Fallout 3's Wasteland, you start to miss the many things from it. The ripped apart buildings, river going through the city, the dangerous center filled with Super Mutants, metros...
That's what I'm meaning by not comparing Fallout: New Vegas with Fallout 3. Especially if Fallout 3 is the first Fallout game you've played.

But, even though it's not quite easy, i think we shall give Fallout: New Vegas a chance and put Fallout 3 on the shelf, because it's a great game and it's best played without Fallout 3 on your mind.
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:49 pm

... But, even though it's not quite easy, i think we shall give Fallout: New Vegas a chance and put Fallout 3 on the shelf, because it's a great game and it's best played without Fallout 3 on your mind.
I agree you here, but using Fallout 2 and 3 instead of 3 and NV. Still, they are all impressive in their own ways and all have a permanent spot on my shelf.
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Post » Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:13 am

Try and just explore the Mojave, dont go chasing quests, they will find you. Make diffrent player builds, for diffrent sides, look for unique weapons. But if you simply prefear Fallout 3 thats okay
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:26 pm

I kind of feel the same way as the OP. I like all of the individual improvements over FO3, the whole package just doesn't seem to come together to present as 'fun' an experience as I had with FO3.

I'm not sure what it is, but this game just isn't grabbinng me as much. I think perhaps it's the map--I loved wandering all over and exploring in FO3, but NV feels more limiting with it's somewhat linear paths along the roads and the difficulty in setting off cross-country (due to all the unclimbable mountains and invisible walls). Maybe I'm just a little burned out after 2 solid years of playing FO3 and little else.

Still, I'm continuing through and enjoying NV. After 90-something hours of playing, perhaps it's time I went and confronted Benny already (still on my first character, and haven't been inside the Tops yet).
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:33 pm

FO3 is out of FONV's league.
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Post » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:05 pm

Combat NV wins
Enemies: F03 wins
Exploring: F03 Wins
Quests: NV wins
Story: NV wins
Originality: F03 wins
Music: F03 wins
Complexity (Factions/choices etc...) - NV wins
Crafting: NV wins (slightly) don't like either
Housing: Draw

If I played NV first I would love it and probably do 2 or 3 playthroughs. Since I burned out on F03 and the game hasn't changed all that much I just rate it as a meh follow up. Still enjoyed but just didn't hit me with the wow factor. I guess it depends on what you are looking for in a game. Some people absolutely love it, some hate it, and there are some like me who could take it or leave it.
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Post » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:21 am

Originality? Fallout 3 wasn't original, it was the plots of Fallout and Fallout 2 pressed together and sprinkled with "missing dada waaa"
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Post » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:02 am

Originality: F03 wins


Please, can you define originality, because the plot is just James+FO1 Plot+FO2 Plot
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