Fallout: New Vegas, sub-par?

Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 1:31 am

The day that NV came out, I had just finished my 14th play-through of Fallout 3 and was eagerly awaiting for NV. After a couple weeks of playing NV, beating the story, doing alot of side-quests, killing alot of people, I went back to Fallout 3 just to check on my guy and his armaments. 2 minutes turned into 20 minutes, and 2 hours turned into 4 hours of playing Fallout 3. Shocked at how long i'd been playing, I went back to NV the next day, and was disappointed. Fallout 3's quick load screens were turned into long, tedious minutes just to go from inside house to outside a house. I turned on the Mojave radio station and immediately wished for great songs like "Butcher Pete" and"I don't wanna set the World on Fire". I tried scouring the wastes looking for some "Super Mutant Mayhem", but instead found not a single hostile mutant. And to this very moment, I refuse to pick up NV. I just can't, after experiencing the greatness that was Fallout 3. What is the communities take on this? Do you guys think Fallout 3 is better than NV? :bowdown: :fallout:3
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:23 pm

Watch out I now, some people are going go be something like this: Omg I can't beloved that you like fallout 3 better than fallout new Vegas!! And then other will say Fallout 3 is the best ever, and back again, and back again...

I warned you. :)
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:45 pm

Wonderwombat speaks the truth, you can't get a accurate idea of which game the community like better because every single thread about them turns into a flame war.

Welcome to the forum anyway though! :celebration:
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Louise
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:56 am

New Vegas is a far better game in just about every way.

And really Super Mutants should not have been in DC, the fact FEV was in a Vault in DC is pretty dumb.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:21 am

"My idea is to explore more of the world and more of the ethics of a post-nuclear world, not to make a better plasma gun." —Tim Cain, creator of Fallout

If you just want violence and action, then Borderlands is your game.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:09 pm

So another Fallout 3 vs Fallout New Vegas topic :facepalm:

New Vegas is far superior to Fallout 3 in every way because Fallout New Vegas is a Fallout Game. Whereas Fallout 3, is a TES game dressed up to look like a Fallout Game that is a FPS with few RPG elements.

New Vegas

It has reputation system
Traits
Multiple Endings based on our actions
hardcoe Mode
Damage Threshold
Far better writing
Can join or help pretty much every faction
It isn't Good vs Evil and in the end doesn't force you to be good.
It has the right setting.

For those that haven't, go out an buy Fallout, Fallout 2, and then you will see why New Vegas is superior to Fallout 3.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:12 pm

Watch out I now, some people are going go be something like this: Omg I can't beloved that you like fallout 3 better than fallout new Vegas!! And then other will say Fallout 3 is the best ever, and back again, and back again...

I warned you. :)


W0NDERW0MBAT is right, this thread will be a flame war in no time.

To the OP: I'll give my civil response before this gets ugly, hope it helps.

I think you're missing the good qualities in FO:NV because you went into New Vegas expecting Fallout 3. The truth is that they are two very different games. New Vegas is more of a real RPG, where the stats and skills that you choose actually have significant effects on what your character will be like.

New Vegas also has much MUCH better writing imo. Talk to any NPC with a lot of dialogue in Fallout 3 and then talk to an NPC with a lot of dialogue in New Vegas. There is a big difference.

New Vegas also has a greater variety of weapons, armors, items etc. as well as several new crafting stations.

These are just a few reasons to give New Vegas a second chance, I could list more, but then I would be typing for several days straight. I hope you give New Vegas another chance though, it is one of if not the best game I have ever played.

Edit: Styles pretty much summed it up, the list in that post should be more than enough reasons to give New Vegas another chance.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:35 am

So another Fallout 3 vs Fallout New Vegas topic :facepalm:

New Vegas is far superior to Fallout 3 in every way because Fallout New Vegas is a Fallout Game. Whereas Fallout 3, is a TES game dressed up to look like a Fallout Game that is a FPS with few RPG elements.

It has reputation system
Traits
Multiple Endings based on our actions
hardcoe Mode
Damage Threshold
Far better writing
Can join or help pretty much every faction
It isn't Good vs Evil and in the end doesn't force you to be good.
It has the right setting.

For those that haven't, go out an buy Fallout, Fallout 2, and then you will see why New Vegas is superior to Fallout 3.


I agree that New Vegas is the better game, but Fallout 3 is still fun as hell and better than 99% of games out there.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 5:32 pm

Nope, but I respect your opinions. :disguise:
This is the order I like. FO2>FO>FO:NV>FO3
I still love what Fallout is though. :fallout:
Fallout 3 is still a good game though soo... yeah. c:
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:21 pm

I agree that New Vegas is the better game, but Fallout 3 is still fun as hell and better than 99% of games out there.


I agree Fallout 3 is fun. I bought it the day it came out and I played the hell out of it. I bought all the DLCs as they came out. Still out of the Five Canon Fallout games to me Fallout 3 is the 5th best.

1st Fallout
2nd Fallout 2
3rd New Vegas
4th Fallout Tactics
5th Fallout 3
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:38 pm

Not this again.

They're both good in their own way.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:10 pm

I agree that New Vegas is the better game, but Fallout 3 is still fun as hell and better than 99% of games out there.


Also this.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:37 pm

How about we just say that both of the games have their own strengths and weaknesses and that they're both amazing games in their own right and we just call it a thread at that?
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:01 pm

Also, Ashur and his Pitt does a better Caesar than Caesar himself. If Caesar was more like Ashur, the Legion might actually be cool.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:34 pm

To the OP I suggest playing the originals (if you haven't already, instead play 'em again), then play FO3 and FONV. Then decide which is better. I have a feeling you'll change your mind. Besides, there is much more depth to the gameplay, the dialogue, and story. Don't forget all the extra levels, perks, and weapons. :toughninja: :celebration: :flamethrower:
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:45 pm

Depends on what you want, if you want exploration, loot, and immersive environments, I'd say F3 is your game. If you want a well developed plot, expansive list of characters, electricity, and a bit more freedom in how the game turns out in the end, I'd say F:NV is what you are after. It's really all down to just what you're preference is. F3 is an amazing atmosphere, FNV is a great story.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:20 pm

I think New Vegas has an amazing atmosphere.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:14 pm

How about we just say that both of the games have their own strengths and weaknesses and that they're both amazing games in their own right and we just call it a thread at that?

People need their daily virtual ego boost in the form of "proving" their opinion is the right one with the amazing argument of "opinion as fact"
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:02 pm

Do you guys think Fallout 3 is better than NV?


I don't.
I liked New Vegas better. It has some of the same flaws Fallout 3 has and some of its own, but generally it's much closer to what I'd expect from a Fallout game than Fallout 3 was. Generally I think there is nothing in Fallout 3 that New Vegas doesn't have in an improved or similiar form (both to its benefit and disadvatage), and that I likely never go back to FO3 again (I see no reason to, as there is nothing really to see or experience after it is finished once).
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:41 pm

*Runs around room making plane and gun sounds*
*Pimps, projecting self into the door*
*Sits back down, calmly*

Fallout new Vegas beats Fallout 3, it has more content and just overall makes more sense as other have already said
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:27 pm

I tried scouring the wastes looking for some "Super Mutant Mayhem", but instead found not a single hostile mutant.

Well for one, these Super Mutants are not the same ones as in Fallout 3. They are more intelligent and not universally hostile and after the events of the first Fallout they have dispersed and dwindled in numbers thus you'll find less of them.
Also there are some hostile mutants (mostly Night-kin) to be found at specific locations.

And to this very moment, I refuse to pick up NV. I just can't, after experiencing the greatness that was Fallout 3. What is the communities take on this? Do you guys think Fallout 3 is better than NV?

Well both are at their core very different games. Fallout 3 takes after TES and is more about exploration and accessibility. New Vegas tries to be more in spirit of the original Fallouts and focuses on story and continuity in the world as well as putting more emphasis on the RPG aspects.

Overall it seems people who are fans of Fallout 1 & 2 are going to prefer New Vegas. I'm one of those.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:12 pm

I don't even know which one I like better :/
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:42 pm

West coast Fallout FTW.

The superior writing and world building really clinch it for me. Go talk to Caesar, read the survivalist's journal entries, or play through Old World Blues (SCIENCE!) to see what I'm talking about.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:26 pm

The day that NV came out, I had just finished my 14th play-through of Fallout 3 and was eagerly awaiting for NV. After a couple weeks of playing NV, beating the story, doing alot of side-quests, killing alot of people, I went back to Fallout 3 just to check on my guy and his armaments. 2 minutes turned into 20 minutes, and 2 hours turned into 4 hours of playing Fallout 3. Shocked at how long i'd been playing, I went back to NV the next day, and was disappointed. Fallout 3's quick load screens were turned into long, tedious minutes just to go from inside house to outside a house. I turned on the Mojave radio station and immediately wished for great songs like "Butcher Pete" and"I don't wanna set the World on Fire". I tried scouring the wastes looking for some "Super Mutant Mayhem", but instead found not a single hostile mutant. And to this very moment, I refuse to pick up NV. I just can't, after experiencing the greatness that was Fallout 3. What is the communities take on this? Do you guys think Fallout 3 is better than NV? :bowdown: :fallout:3


Another guy made a thread saying he couldn't get into New Vegas but loved Fallout 3. I told him he should do a pure NCR playthrough and that would get him into the game, he said it helped a bunch and as far as I know he's still playing NV.
I dunno how far you got in NV or how much you've played, but if you didn't play much, I'd give you the same advice. If you run through and play the game as an NCR soldier, you'll have plenty of stuff to do, you'll see plenty of places and you'll learn all the locations and where to find which enemies, etc etc etc.
I'm guessing a common problem with New Vegas for people coming from FO3 is that FO3 specializes in instant gratification. You walk to feet and OMG RANDOM DEATHCLAW, then you walk five feet and OMG BUS EXPLODED and then you fight raiders and OMG FAT MAN THEM then OMG BOUNTY HUNTERS then OMG ANOTHER DEATHCLAW. That's great and all, but it DOES get old, and in retrospect, it's very lacking in actual substance. New Vegas on the other hand focuses on story, factions and character customization, so it takes a bit longer, but once you get into it, you get more bang for your buck.
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Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:29 pm

I don't even know which one I like better :/

Thats because they're both amazing games with flaws in their own ways. Anyone who trumps that one is better than the other is stating an opinion, not a fact.
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